After Malaysia, Trade With Turkey Under Government Scanner For Interfering In India’s Internal Issue

[Lincoln]

Why would India "call out " Russia ? Russia has almost never acted against Indian interest.

Which is why we trust them enough to buy weapons from them.



Conflict with anyone is beyond our capacity. We have far too many pressing matters to address in India before we can consider a conflict.

That should be even easier to understand.



Doklam proved our competence to china and proclaimed it to the world.

There is nothing more to prove.

And China hasn't acted against our interests. If Human rights in China our Pakistan's interests, then the international violations by Russia should also be a concern for India.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Same thing applies for us as well.

Take some facts into account here if your sole motivation is money.

A) The trade is in favour of india, with exports barely 700+ million while rest is imports. Something which Pak can fulfill considering you arent importing microprocessors but raw materials.

B) On the other hand you are now exporting defence systems worth billions to Pak, your T-129 deal alone is worth billions.

C) Whats your govts stance on uighur issue? We support you on everything from cyprus to not recognising armenia. We cant realistically snub china when they are the only nation helping our economic recovery. While Turkey itself was looking to buy SAMs from them.

D) Thank you for reminding my fellow countrymen about economy dwarfing historic relations forged with Pak blood.

Imagine how foolish our people have been. From getting shot to volunteering to go to your aid or sacrificing whatever they had for your causes to not recognising states.

Flexing those fragile muscles, I guess. Turks import a good 7 billion worth of merchandise and services from India while export a measly 1.2 billion... I think this trade relationship should definitely end...

Turkiye can instead buy from it's friendly(ier) partners

Turkey exports 758 million USD worth goods to india.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business...porters-look-to-expand-into-indian-market/amp

 

[dBSPL]

What is the trade balance for Turkey to India? (1995-2017)
https://oec.world/en/visualize/embed/line/hs92/show/tur/ind/all/1995.2017/?controls=false

What does Turkey import from India? (1995-2017)
https://oec.world/en/visualize/embed/line/hs92/import/tur/ind/show/1995.2017/?controls=false

Where does Turkey import Refined Petroleum from? (1995-2017)
https://oec.world/en/visualize/embed/line/hs92/import/tur/show/2710/1995.2017/?controls=false

This is not a sustainable structure. No product imported from India is unique. Alternative countries have the same cheap production advantages in the region. This is really great news if India wants to limit its economic relations. Because this will give an opportunity to further strengthen our cooperation with the allied countries in the region in the economic field.

On the other hand, This is a form of policy that loses even its gains and is fed entirely by populism. Is that typical Indian foreign affairs style ?

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Also a reminder: High-Level Strategic Cooperation Council (ie board of ministers of both countries ) between the two countries, will be held with the participation of leaders -IK and RTE-, in February 2020 meeting. Turkey delegation will go to Pakistan with a very large environment of bureaucrats and businessmen. Immediately after this visit, the Turkish president will move to Indonesia.

 

[OIO]

@Petrichor
@Mr.NiceGuy

I had mentioned before in another discussion that silence of the Islamic bloc over plight of Uyghurs in China, will come back to haunt Muslims in other domains.

FYI: https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-against-chinas-xinjiang-policies/

Now 'every' country oppressing Muslims in some way or form is emboldened.

What do WE expect from India now?

The very least the Islamic bloc could do was to condemn China for its treatment of Uyghurs and offer a way forward to China for how to address this issue. But not even this.

In fact, many of the fellow Muslims were bashing WEST over Uyghurs instead...LMAO. What is the point of selectively speaking against oppression? This is pure hypocrisy.

You have too many countries to condemn, Muslims in all none Muslim countries always conflict with others, if the none Muslim countries want to keep stable they have to do something, China of course is doing in a moderate way.

Russia will be next to deal with Muslim independent kingdoms after getting a comfortable position in geopolitics and changing the government.

Even west europe countries are reflecting that they shouldn't have destroyed Yugoslavia to benefit Muslims.

It's not problem between China and Pakistan if you don't insist.

 

[Nityam]

And China hasn't acted against our interests. If Human rights in China our Pakistan's interests, then the international violations by Russia should also be a concern for India.

LOL.... you are an ISLAMIC state so chinese acts against muslims IS against your interests.

Why would Russian violation against a 3rd nation be against our interest ? it would certainly be our concern.

 

[Lincoln]

LOL.... you are an ISLAMIC state so chinese acts against muslims IS against your interests.

Why would Russian violation against a 3rd nation be against our interest ? it would certainly be our concern.

Islamic means islamic law.

 

[Nityam]

Islamic means islamic law.

Which is worse when you consider that most muslims live under laws which are NOT islamic.

Which means they have to wage jihad to establish islamic law in all those lands.

 

[Lincoln]

Which is worse when you consider that most muslims live under laws which are NOT islamic.

Which means they have to wage jihad to establish islamic law in all those lands.

lol, you're so dumb

 

[bsruzm]

Most of Malaysians have the same ideologies and beliefs towards Turkiye and Turks.
I have been there for a few years. Malaysians and Indonesians have no love towards our country and people.

That's not true. I have been to Malaysia for two years, and been to Thailand and Singapore as well. You say that you are boiling "here in Turkey", are you even in Turkey?

 

[Nityam]

lol, you're so dumb

Not as dumb as someone claiming islam is same as islamic law.

 

[jaibi]

No, brother, that's not true. While some members of the Muslim community may advocate that (which is their right) but most are peaceful, law abiding citizens. Don't you think you're stereotyping here?

Which is worse when you consider that most muslims live under laws which are NOT islamic.

Which means they have to wage jihad to establish islamic law in all those lands.

 

[Nityam]

No, brother, that's not true. While some members of the Muslim community may advocate that (which is their right) but most are peaceful, law abiding citizens. Don't you think you're stereotyping here?

Which part is stereotyping ?

Jihad is required when one is not allowed to practice islam. Is this a wrong understanding ?

The poster above claimed that islamic law IS islam which means all those nations who do not have islamic law does not allow its citizens to practice islam.

So either his definition is wrong or Mine is. Which is it ?

 

[jaibi]

Yes, brother, Jihad has been misinterpreted quite a bit. When political parties take the banner of religion whether it be TTP or RSS, they mould it to make it more militant and inspiring for people to conform to a level of intolerance which can be used to gain political capital.

Secondly, you're not addressing the original poster but the entire Muslim population, so I'm answering on behalf of a diverse group.

You two should cite your sources and let's see which one is closer to the truth, which is closer to an interpretation and which one is being abused or seen through a biased eye.

Does that sound better than name calling each other?

Which part is stereotyping ?

Jihad is required when one is not allowed to practice islam. Is this a wrong understanding ?

The poster above claimed that islamic law IS islam which means all those nations who do not have islamic law does not allow its citizens to practice islam.

So either his definition is wrong or Mine is. Which is it ?

 

[Lincoln]

Not as dumb as someone claiming islam is same as islamic law.

Do you know what an Islamic republic implies?

 

[Nityam]

Yes, brother, Jihad has been misinterpreted quite a bit. When political parties take the banner of religion whether it be TTP or RSS, they mould it to make it more militant and inspiring for people to conform to a level of intolerance which can be used to gain political capital.

Secondly, you're not addressing the original poster but the entire Muslim population, so I'm answering on behalf of a diverse group.

You two should cite your sources and let's see which one is closer to the truth, which is closer to an interpretation and which one is being abused or seen through a biased eye.

Does that sound better than name calling each other?

jihad
/dʒɪˈhɑːd/
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noun
ISLAM

1. a struggle or fight against the enemies of Islam.
   "he declared a jihad against the infidels"
   • the spiritual struggle within oneself against sin.
     noun: greater jihad; plural noun: greater jihads; noun: greater jehad; plural noun: greater jehads

Second, RSS is NOT a political organization like the TTP

Third the poster claimed "islamic law" IS "islam" and thus he spoke for all the islamic world.

And since you did not contradict him you to subscribe to the same view, in which case my question to him stands.

Do you know what an Islamic republic implies?

Irrelevant.

I am talking about muslims living in NON islamic republic and Nations.

By your definition they are either not practicing islam or not allowed to practice islam.

Hence the need for Jihad to make islam possible.