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Explain it?Thing Is Orignal MMRCA hadf two kinds of MRCA fighters in mind from the very start one long endurance medium weight twin engined (rafale) and other was medium endurance medium weight single engined (F16) and IAF wanted Rafale and F16 from the very start but SAAB played games and so dod one other non russian acompany with elments of IAF top brass and MOD baboons did every thing to sabotage it which was instrumental is delaying the deal for over at least 2-3 years if not more
now dcoming to current level
the Blk60 IN level F16 had some issues but the new Blk70/72 is totally new figter which is on par if not better to rafale on most counts (apart from range and payload capacity and flieght sieling) and with comparrission to what kind of F16 we have in our neighbourhood its like diffrence between a 1990s era desktop to a 2016 era desktop in every department rest you can calculate yourself
as for fight between F16 Blk70/72 and Grippen E well there is no contest as F16 is twice as capable as Grippen E in most department but has same price and requires same ammount of mantinence and swedes can never give the same ammount of polictical milage as the yamrican can so the deal is already going to LM
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The BLOCK 70 is coming to india...
This deal is the real MMRCA winner
RAFALE lost the MMRCA just got a token prize...of 36 FIGHTERS. but THAT TOKEN will grown I predict india not buyinmg the PAK FA and ordering 36 more rafales in 2022 once first batch is ordered
FUTURE IAF will consist of
Rafale = Top End fighters cutting edge x 72
Su30mki/supermki x 270 Fighter IAF backbone mainstay
F16/70 X 140 planes lightweogfht mrca built in india policy
Tejas x 100 fighters = token indian indenguious effort LCA.
Mirage2000/5 x 50 UNTIL 2035
Everything will be scrapped
there is Blk70/72 just like version "V" its the next level of upgrade after blK60 and Blk60IN with current gen techs devloped in last decade after R&D lessons learned from Blk60 and is offered to india its primary R&D and testing is domne only serial production has to start of which it has to be decided weather to start it as a whole in india or make couple of squads in USA by Indian technecians under supervission of American experts and then tranferring whole assembelly lines and toolings , kits and rigs to indiaThere is no Blk70/72. The most advanced version is the Blk60. A further upgrade of the Blk60 is the Blk62 which has not yet been manufactured.
i agree that f-16 block 60/70 is as good as a Rafael but how come india is going to maintain these fighters in 2025
1.jagaurs
2. mig 29
3. su 27/30
4. mirage 2000
5. LCA
rafale
6. gripen
7. +/- f-16s
8. and Pakfa
assuming india will retire the all the mig 21 and mig 27
rest are going no where till atleast 2040 given recent updates for migs, mirages and jaguars
what i assume is that india will not procure f-16 and just stick with the gripen and completely axe the LCA, they might get some off the shelf f-16 if Lockheed can warm some pockets..
regardlessly from the very beginning going for rafale when u didnt had the money was wrong decision
also operating 6-8 platforms for fighters alone will be nightmare, no country in the world including the USA or china does that, whom economies are 20x to 10x greater than india
These approches are not going to change pakistan approach, it will still purse the f-16s and thunders, though no new f-16s. parts will never be any issue given the vast number of alternatives, we will purse other Chinese or possibly European options if economy allows it
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And then once the Mirages & MiG 29s are phased out (around 2030 I believe), we'd have the PAK FA right? That works out perfectly then.
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Correct M2Ks & MIG-29 would be in service until 2030 and most likely would be replaced by additional RAFALEs.
FGFA would replace SU-30 MKIs (Super Sukhois)
There is talk of increasing the approved squadron strength to 50. That proposal would pick pace once the 42 number is achieved..
Then let it be f35. No where heard such thing that a customer declared a product as mediocre for its uses by thorough checks 2010,and after 7 years its thinking of inducting that platform with minor changes.
well i am surprised that you would throw down mirages just 10 years after amssive upgrade worth 2.4 billion dollars(equal to 60 LCA @40 million dollars or 18 rafale