African Union Suspends Egypt

[Yzd Khalifa]

@fallstuff

I guess you and I are more or less on the same boat in this case.

 

[Imran Khan]

@fallstuff

I guess you and I are more or less on the same boat in this case.

if boat sink throw him in sea ok

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

if boat sink throw him in sea ok

I though you would bring one of PM's submarines to save us all

 

[Imran Khan]

I though you would bring one of PM's submarines to save us all

diesel is very expensive first reduce the diesel prices otherwise i am failed to move a small boat rather then 300mn$ submarine

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

diesel is very expensive first reduce the diesel prices otherwise i am failed to move a small boat rather then 300mn$ submarine

Okays, how much wants?

That's why I keep saying Pakistan should get gwadar done as soon as possible.

 

[Imran Khan]

Okays, how much wants?

That's why I keep saying Pakistan should get gwadar done as soon as possible.

this what you give us when we come to your home water tank ?

 

[Imran Khan]

 

[pkuser2k12]

what ever happens will be better
yes he was most of them were in the streets protesting

and you counted them yourself i guess

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

This is the holy land yoo! it's your home too ..

I guess these are in Jeddah right?

this what you give us when we come to your home water tank ?

 

[kalu_miah]

I agree with you Brother but in the end Democracy is just another name for Compromise. Egyptians will have to learn to calm down and learn how this game of Democracy is played. Allow me to give you another scenario. Now that Coup has taken place the Military has two options. Either they will grab power and another Dictator like Mubarak will be born who will rule Egypt with an iron fist for next 30 years OR if they are sensible they will have an early Election. If they have an early Election either the Islamists will come back to power or the liberal President will be elected. If the Islamist com back to Power then we are back to Square one. If the Liberals will Win, they will WIN by a NARROW MAJORITY.

Now my friends millions of Islamist will come out on streets and bring the wheel of Government to a standstill and refuse to leave till the new Government is brought down. They will be doing the same thing that the Liberals did. This is the reason why I think the Military acted prematurely and ill advisedly. They have just set up a bad PRECEDENCE. You cannot settle things on the Street in a Democracy. This is why there is a Parliament and a Constitution. If you do not accept other peoples Mandate, they won't accept yours. That would force Military to intervene each time and the Government will be run by FORCE instead of CONSENSUS.

Maybe Egypt is not a country that can be governed by Democracy. Say what you want about the short comings of Pakistanis but they showed the World that they will abide by Principles of Democracy. The last Government of Asif Ali Zardari was the most unpopular government in Pakistan, ever. The only reason his party won last time was because of Sympathy vote for the assassination of his wife. But Kudos to Pakistani people that they swallowed the BITTER PILL and let him finish his 5 year term. In 2013 elections, PPP the party of Zardari was routed and did not even get a third of seats. That is the only way Democracy can work. You have to let people finish their term OR THEY WILL NOT LET YOU FINISH YOURS NEXT TIME.

I love Egyptian people and hope that things work out for them but the path their Army has taken is rife with Pitfalls. In the end, in this day an age Military dictatorships are not a solution. Good luck to my bro @Mahmoud_EGY and the great Egyptian people.

Well put, could not have said it better myself. Morsi made many mistakes, but removing him was a bigger mistake by Egyptian Army, the result will not be good. If democracy has to take root, then all parties must respect democratic rules of the game. This coup showed to the whole world that Egyptian people are not yet ready for democracy and cannot follow or respect democratic rules of the game. A coup by Army to change govt. destroys democracy.

Every country is different, so we may not know more than Egyptians or people from other Arab countries, but many of us outsiders are also more neutral than the "insiders". And democratic practices are universal, there are no different rules for different country.

I think the biggest mistake Morsi made was failing to create a constitution that was acceptable to all sides of the political spectrum. That is the fundamental document that sets the rules of the game in a democracy, if that is not acceptable to a overwhelming majority of the people of the country then the foundation of that democracy become very weak, I think this is exactly what happened in Egypt.

Whoever creates the next constitution, must keep this in mind, that it has to be acceptable and be agreed to by all sides, if needed by a referendum with a vote from at least 75% of the people.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

African Union? Seriously?

 

[kalu_miah]

African Union? Seriously?

The African Dimension of Egyptian Foreign Policy - Student Pulse
http://dspace.cigilibrary.org/jspui/bitstream/123456789/31079/1/EGYPROLEAFRICA.pdf?1

Africa is no laughing matter for Egypt. Though African Union may sound like a joke today, the future may be different.

 

[Imran Khan]

This is the holy land yoo! it's your home too ..

I guess these are in Jeddah right?

yes it is last time our one frigate has some issue wich was repaired by saudi naval crew . i meet them and there was exchange of gifts at the end

 

[Arabian Legend]

The African Dimension of Egyptian Foreign Policy - Student Pulse
http://dspace.cigilibrary.org/jspui/bitstream/123456789/31079/1/EGYPROLEAFRICA.pdf?1

Africa is no laughing matter for Egypt. Though African Union may sound like a joke today, the future may be different.

The African union has no role to play and can easily be pressured through the Arab league whether now or in the future.

 

[kalu_miah]

The African union has no role to play and can easily be pressured through the Arab league whether now or in the future.

Currently Sub-saharan Africa has a population of about 750 million. Arab League has about 400 million, 300 million in North Africa and 100 million in Gulf and Levant.

Christianity in Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The statistics from the World Christian Encyclopedia (David Barrett) illustrate the emerging trend of dramatic Christian growth on the continent and supposes, that in 2025 there will be 633 million Christians in Africa.[15]

http://esa.un.org/wpp/Documentation/pdf/WPP2012_Press_Release.pdf

Africa growing rapidly

More than half of global population growth between now and 2050 is expected to
occur in Africa. According to the UN’s medium-variant projection, the population of
Africa could more than double by mid-century, increasing from 1.1 billion today to
2.4 billion in 2050, and potentially reaching 4.2 billion by 2100.
Rapid population increase in Africa is anticipated even if there is a substantial
reduction of fertility levels in the near future. The medium-variant projection assumes
that fertility will fall from 4.9 children per women in 2005-2010 to 3.1 in 2045-2050,
reaching 2.1 by 2095-2100. The gap for Africa between the high and low variants of
the new projections, corresponding to half a child more or less per woman compared
to the medium variant, amounts to roughly 600 million people by 2050 (2.7 vs. 2.1
billion) and potentially 3.2 billion people by 2100 (6.0 vs. 2.8 billion).
Regardless of the uncertainty surrounding the future population of Africa, the region
will play a central role in shaping the size and distribution of world population during
this century.

Due to higher fertility rate of Sub-saharan Africans, they will become the overwhelming majority, both Muslim and Christian in this continent. This is a potential opportunity that could as well become a disaster if future is not properly planned.