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We will respect Pashtuns’ decision on Pashtunistan: Karzai
Posted by: The Pashtun Times in Afghanistan, Interviews, Latest News, Pashtun News September 3, 2016 0



Former president of Afghanistan talks to THE PASHTUN TIMES

KABUL: Former President Hamid Karzai said that if Pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa decide to Pashtunistan, he would respect their decision.

In an interview with The Pashtun Times, the ex-president said that in the Durand Line Agreement, the Durand Line was not called a border. “It was not called a border but the term sphere of influence was used. It means sphere of influence between the British India and Afghanistan, not a border,” he said.

When asked will he stand beside Pashtuns living on the other side of the Durand Line to support an independent state of Pashtunistan, the former Afghan president said that if Pashtuns decide to Pashtunistan, their decision would be respected.

“From the River Amu [Oxus] to Attock, Afghans live. There are different groups of Afghans. If Afghans living on the other side of the Durand Line decide to have an independent state we will accept it. We shall respect their decision whatever it is,” he said.

Karzai said the Durand Line cannot separate Afghans because the line has not been recognized by anyone for over a century. “No one will recognize it. It cannot separate the nation. The line has not separated the nation. When we went to the other side of the Durand Line, the people welcomed us as their own brothers. Therefore, it cannot separate us and no one recognizes it. It cannot keep us away from each other,” he said.

When asked whether anyone in Afghanistan will recognize the Durand Line, the former president replied that such a person would never arise in Afghanistan. “If such a person did come, at that very moment, the people of Afghanistan will kick him out of Afghan Millat [nation].”

He told The Pashtun Times the Durand Line was imposed by British Empire on Afghan people. “It was imposed on Afghans because of a weak government and at difficult time. Neither that time nor now Afghans recognize the line. We did not complain about this to Pakistan because at that time Pakistan did not exist,” Karzai said, adding that there was Hindustan only, which was ruled by the British, part of the British Empire. Pakistan came into being later.

“We say two things to Pakistan, first, we do not recognize the line because it was imposed on Afghans by the British and the whole world knows it, as does Pakistan. Second, we have no grudge against the people of Pakistan, we want friendly and brotherly relations,” he stressed on close ties with people of Pakistan.

He said that not the governments but only people can solve the Durand Line issue.

Responding to a question, Hamid Karzai said that he never recognized the Durand Line, and repeatedly expressed his viewpoint.

He further said that Pashtuns on other side of the Durand Line are victims of conspiracies.

“I am sad to say that Pashtuns on the other side of the Durand Line are also going through tough time. Pashtuns are killed as well as defamed in foreign imposed war. What happened in Waziristan—elders were killed as well as the people who were famous for Jirgas— indicates that there is something else going on in this region,” Hamid Karzai said.

Responding to a query regarding Pakistan’s military operation in North Waziristan which displaced thousands of people and left their properties destroyed, the former president said that he wrote a letter to the Prime Minister of Pakistan to target real nests of the terrorists rather than targeting civilians or a particular nation or group.

He said that terrorists are in the plans and policies of Pakistani military. “They [terrorists] are there [Pakistan], but not among the people. They are not in Miranshah, Wanna and Mir Ali. They are in the plans and policies of Pakistani military. They cannot be eliminated until Pakistani military stop using them,” he said.

Regarding construction of the gate at Torkham by Pakistani government, the former Afghan president said the gate constructed at Torkham is totally unfair and should be removed.
Why to give so importance to a tout such as Karzai. His tail is in RAW'shands and he barks whatever they program him to bark. BTW, if you ask Pashtoons in Afghanistan,they would love to be a part of KPK in Pakistan. Therefore don't get bothered by a barking tout.
 
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Going back in history Afghanistan was part of Persians, there was no such thing as Afghanistan back then. Lets keep going back in history. :rofl:
Well said!
I have used this same argument with an Afghan friend of mine and it stumped him.
 
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As long as grass is greener on Pakistani side, Pathans are going to stick with Pakistan. Money and livelihood mattes most for them. British have remarked "Buy the Pathan , honour the Baluch"...........that is biggest incentive for Pathan is money and he places it above honour.......As long as Pakistan is economically stronger than Afghanistan, no thought will be given to Pashtunistan by Pakistani pathans.

Shitiest post of the century. @DESERT FIGHTER your thoughts ?
 
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http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/3...relationship-with-afghanistan-will-never-end/

He, too, has been taught to dislike India just like any other Pakistani college student. He has studied from the same textbooks and agrees with why India has lost Pakistan’s loyalty. He considers India his enemy, just like his other fellow Pakistani students. .
An Indian actress Swara Bhaskar who visited Pakistan recently tells a Indian newspaper that Pakistanis r more friendly and hospitable towards Indians visiting Pakistan. Even veteran actor OM puri also had similar views. Well I can understand their statements r sugar coated just to fool Indians. After reading this blog posted by you, Indians should think twice before visiting your country.
 
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This article was posted just for information so PDF members know what afghans are doing in the area.

By the way its more pashtoon people in Pakistan, therefore Afghanistan have to surrender all Pashtoon areas in Afghanistan to river oxus to Pakistan so all pashtoon people can live togheter in one country, then Durand line issue will automatically be solved :-) Kesa
 
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As long as grass is greener on Pakistani side, Pathans are going to stick with Pakistan. Money and livelihood mattes most for them. British have remarked "Buy the Pathan , honour the Baluch"...........that is biggest incentive for Pathan is money and he places it above honour.......As long as Pakistan is economically stronger than Afghanistan, no thought will be given to Pashtunistan by Pakistani pathans.

Thats utter nonsense, Pukhtoons joined Pakistan even when Pak was not financially strong, Pukhtoons fought off the Afghans in the late 50s when Afghanistan was stronger and richer than Pakistan. Loyalty of Pukhtoons is not easily bought. Yes you might get some bad eggs, doesn't mean that all the eggs are bad

An Indian actress Swara Bhaskar who visited Pakistan recently tells a Indian newspaper that Pakistanis r more friendly and hospitable towards Indians visiting Pakistan. Even veteran actor OM puri also had similar views. Well I can understand their statements r sugar coated just to fool Indians. After reading this blog posted by you, Indians should think twice before visiting your country.

Pakistanis don't have any ill feelings for the people of India, its the Indian government that we have a problem with. I have Indian friends here in Aus, we get along pretty well, they have a problem with Pakistani government and we have a problem with Indian government, thats about it.
 
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Shitiest post of the century. @DESERT FIGHTER your thoughts ?
Yes this is what an Afghan friend of mine says. He feels that as long as Pakistan's economy is better Pakhtoons will stay with Pakistan and should Afghanistan's economy improve the people of KPK and Balochistan will naturally want to move towards Afghanistan. Now I do not know if he says this to indirectly say that Pukhtoons are with Pakistan only because of economy and nothing else or if he actually believes what he says.
 
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An Indian actress Swara Bhaskar who visited Pakistan recently tells a Indian newspaper that Pakistanis r more friendly and hospitable towards Indians visiting Pakistan. Even veteran actor OM puri also had similar views. Well I can understand their statements r sugar coated just to fool Indians. After reading this blog posted by you, Indians should think twice before visiting your country.

Aah STFU bharati.

You guys are the biggest hate mongering and hate spewing fools around.

Stop acting like you don't hate Pakistan or Pakistanis. We just reciprocate the hate that you have for our country.
 
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We will respect Pashtuns’ decision on Pashtunistan: Karzai
Posted by: The Pashtun Times in Afghanistan, Interviews, Latest News, Pashtun News September 3, 2016 0



Former president of Afghanistan talks to THE PASHTUN TIMES

KABUL: Former President Hamid Karzai said that if Pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa decide to Pashtunistan, he would respect their decision.

In an interview with The Pashtun Times, the ex-president said that in the Durand Line Agreement, the Durand Line was not called a border. “It was not called a border but the term sphere of influence was used. It means sphere of influence between the British India and Afghanistan, not a border,” he said.

When asked will he stand beside Pashtuns living on the other side of the Durand Line to support an independent state of Pashtunistan, the former Afghan president said that if Pashtuns decide to Pashtunistan, their decision would be respected.

“From the River Amu [Oxus] to Attock, Afghans live. There are different groups of Afghans. If Afghans living on the other side of the Durand Line decide to have an independent state we will accept it. We shall respect their decision whatever it is,” he said.

Karzai said the Durand Line cannot separate Afghans because the line has not been recognized by anyone for over a century. “No one will recognize it. It cannot separate the nation. The line has not separated the nation. When we went to the other side of the Durand Line, the people welcomed us as their own brothers. Therefore, it cannot separate us and no one recognizes it. It cannot keep us away from each other,” he said.

When asked whether anyone in Afghanistan will recognize the Durand Line, the former president replied that such a person would never arise in Afghanistan. “If such a person did come, at that very moment, the people of Afghanistan will kick him out of Afghan Millat [nation].”

He told The Pashtun Times the Durand Line was imposed by British Empire on Afghan people. “It was imposed on Afghans because of a weak government and at difficult time. Neither that time nor now Afghans recognize the line. We did not complain about this to Pakistan because at that time Pakistan did not exist,” Karzai said, adding that there was Hindustan only, which was ruled by the British, part of the British Empire. Pakistan came into being later.

“We say two things to Pakistan, first, we do not recognize the line because it was imposed on Afghans by the British and the whole world knows it, as does Pakistan. Second, we have no grudge against the people of Pakistan, we want friendly and brotherly relations,” he stressed on close ties with people of Pakistan.

He said that not the governments but only people can solve the Durand Line issue.

Responding to a question, Hamid Karzai said that he never recognized the Durand Line, and repeatedly expressed his viewpoint.

He further said that Pashtuns on other side of the Durand Line are victims of conspiracies.

“I am sad to say that Pashtuns on the other side of the Durand Line are also going through tough time. Pashtuns are killed as well as defamed in foreign imposed war. What happened in Waziristan—elders were killed as well as the people who were famous for Jirgas— indicates that there is something else going on in this region,” Hamid Karzai said.

Responding to a query regarding Pakistan’s military operation in North Waziristan which displaced thousands of people and left their properties destroyed, the former president said that he wrote a letter to the Prime Minister of Pakistan to target real nests of the terrorists rather than targeting civilians or a particular nation or group.

He said that terrorists are in the plans and policies of Pakistani military. “They [terrorists] are there [Pakistan], but not among the people. They are not in Miranshah, Wanna and Mir Ali. They are in the plans and policies of Pakistani military. They cannot be eliminated until Pakistani military stop using them,” he said.

Regarding construction of the gate at Torkham by Pakistani government, the former Afghan president said the gate constructed at Torkham is totally unfair and should be removed.
it cannot separate us and no one recognizes it.??? like whole world UN

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