Afghanistan: Informal Colony of India

[Spring Onion]

Who suggested that he had anything to do with ISI ?

You who else. When you tried to pass the personal opinion of the author as ISI's planning . lol

 

[Sher Malang]

Long live Afghan-Indian friendship!

Afghon-Hind dusaati zendobad ??! -- ;-) -- lol

Long live Chairman Mao too ;-)

Any praaablam sir jee?

 

[pakistani342]

Any praaablam sir jee?

nah azaaem hich mushkel neest

Pokistan-muradabod ;-)

 

[third eye]

You who else. When you tried to pass the personal opinion of the author as ISI's planning . lol

I commented on what the author wrote, not the author.

Most Pak poster have a default response to shoot the messenger.

 

[coffee_cup]

Any praaablam sir jee?

In-Af ..... eeeNuf.

No problems there. eeNuf is eeNuf.

 

[Spring Onion]

I commented on what the author wrote, not the author.

Most Pak poster have a default response to shoot the messenger.

I said the same. What the author wrote has nothing to do with ISI. Why make up such wrong assumption by you.

 

[Fireurimagination]

For Pakistan, any country that has good and friendly relations with India is an Indian colony

 

[wiseone2]

http://deaddictioncentres.in/news/indias-youth-drugs/

We have an addiction problem in India.

In Punjab the numbers are ridiculous�nearly 75% of its youth are severely addicted to drugs, that's 3 out of every 4 children.

Mumbai, Hyderabad and other cities around the country are quickly gaining a reputation for their drug usage; and the population in each of these cities continues to grow.

http://scroll.in/article/812278/eve...rug-abuse-and-only-one-of-them-is-from-punjab

There are 10 suicides everyday in India related to Drug abuse .

the numbers are puny
10 x 365 = 3650

Punjab has an addiction problem. 75% is too high. you are assuming the drugs come from pakistan

i cannot speak for mumbai
hyderabad does not have a drug problem

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Paid article, Illiterate author, who doesn't know NDS and Riyasat Amniyat Mili Afghanistan (RAMA) are the same thing but just for the sake of adding some spice for it's illiterate audience he even went to put figures out of his own arse.

Long live Afghan-Indian friendship!

Some Sri Lankan media outlets are worse than those in India or Pakistan.

 

[Kabira]

Some Sri Lankan media outlets are worse than those in India or Pakistan.

Irony of Sri Lankan author to vilify situation in Afghanistan given SL faced a similar situation few decades ago with LTTE controlling parts of country.

Musa Khan Jalalzai sound Sri Lankan to you?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Musa Khan Jalalzai sound Sri Lankan to you?

Thanks for the correction

 

[Articulate]

Actually no Pakistani bureaucracy is more efficient and agile than India bureaucracy. The Indian bureaucracy has always been up for the Darwinian award.

Hear hear!

I must tell you, hateful as I am of the Indian bureaucracy as being the least efficient, there is one positive aspect. They follow 'due process' because they must in India as all things are put for review and/or challenged in courts. In Pakistan, everyone in the Govt or bureaucracy or military prefers the short cuts - which bring better results ofcourse but do have a cost in terms of not building institutional capacity.

 

[A-Team]

by Musa Khan Jalalzai

( September 28, 2016, Islamabad, Sri Lanka Guardian) In an increasing globalized world, secret agencies have become an ever more important weapon of the state. The impact of globalization on intelligence cooperation between Pakistan, India and Afghanistan, in the so called war against terrorism is rendered problematic by divergent conceptions of its nature and contradictory expectations. The recent developments in information technology as well as new wave of terrorism in South Asia are the main factors impelling regional states to increase intelligence cooperation on law enforcement level. In fact, intelligence sharing and interoperability of information system has been the biggest challenges facing India, Pakistan and Afghanistan due to their reservations on sharing national secrets. Contemporary theory on the concept of information age spotlight some challenges in the information sharing process.

The function of intelligence is a structure to process and analyze information and purvey to the policy makers. In South Asia, intelligence function is divided on ethnic and linguistic bases, which created misunderstanding and led policy makers on wrong directions. The involvement of Indian, Afghan and Pakistani intelligence agencies in the ongoing proxy war prompted the emergence of several ethno-terrorist organization that pose serious challenges to the national security of the three states. To counter these violent groups, multilateral intelligence cooperation can be a new light while this way of cooperation gives nations courage to tackle their national security challenges. The emergence of ISIS and Taliban and their suicide attacks against military and civilian installations forced Pakistan and Afghanistan to consider and develop new working relationship, but unfortunately, the changing foreign policy approach of the Afghan unity government vanished all efforts.

The recent violent bray of the Afghan and Indian leaders about the terrorist infiltration from Pakistan before and after the Uri attacks, received no positive response in print and electronic media in South Asia, due to their own sponsorship of various terrorist and extremist outfits. The three heads hydra (RAW, RAMA, NDS) has now become out of control and biting every section of Afghan society, supporting insurgents, warlords, TTP, and exporting terrorism across the borders. India is basically operating in Afghanistan through RAW, IB, RAMA, NDS, and Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) but most of the times the country has failed to assess internal adversaries in the country. It funds propaganda machines in the country, which continue to ignite the fire of ethnicity and sectarianism in Afghanistan.

Major portion of funds it has allocated to the intelligence operations is being spent on recruiting young soldiers for jihad in Baluchistan. The unity government intelligence agencies are following the same streak. However, if we look at the performance and deficiencies of the Afghan unity government, we will find some harsh realities. The irony is that the ANA commanders, members of parliament, police commanders, and intelligence agencies purvey arms and ammunition to Taliban, ISIS and transport suicide bombers to their destination in their luxurious vehicles day and night. Afghans are absolutely exhausted with the long term insecurity, unemployment and interference of foreign agencies in the internal affairs of their country. Politicians and parliamentarians recently raised the question of government support to the ISIS and Taliban groups in their debates. Military and intellectual circles have also raised the question of Indian intelligence sponsorship of terrorism across the border. The country channels huge funds to some ethnic groups and war criminals to turn Afghanistan into its formal or informal colony in order to control foreign and domestic policies of the country.

India does not stop here; the country has planned to use Afghanistan against China and Pakistan by establishing a commando force to disrupt the Pak-China economic corridor. This overt and covert war will not succeed as the ISI’s “S” branch is in full control of the networks of extremist organizations within India but the fact of the matter is that ISI is facing numerous challenges in its own country. The ISI’s sphere of influence and its source of information have badly shrunk due to some of its wrongly designed strategies in its own country. The interference of India in Afghanistan is too irksome for Pakistan as the country has often asked Afghanistan to restrain Indian intelligence from using its soil against Pakistan, and also accused India of fuelling insurgency in Baluchistan. Pakistani officials understand that Indian intelligence agencies are operating through a network of Indian diplomatic mission dotting Southern and Eastern parts of Afghanistan where training camps of Baloch insurgent are located. India denied the accusations and said it helps to stabilize Afghanistan. The blame game further exacerbated when Baluchistan’s Police Chief Muhammad Amlish criticized RAW and NDS for their terrorist activities in the province. The blame-game between Pakistan, India and Afghanistan created the atmosphere of distrust. Afghan say Islamabad is putting the onus on their country.

The so called unity government in Afghanistan is said to have lost confidence and legitimacy. Two month ago, more than 15,000 Afghan army soldiers and officers deserted due to the non-payment of their three months salaries from the Defence Ministry. In Aruzgan province, the same policy was repeated. Consequently, the police and military commanders sold more than 150 military check posts and weapons at the hands of Taliban and received million dollars and gifts. Recently, internal security and defence committees of the Afghan parliament summoned the NDS chief and Interior Minister to explain the causes of deteriorating security situation in the country. No one is safe in the failing state; everyone is trying to leave the country. Businessmen are on the run while women and children are being incarcerated by Taliban and Daesh forces and use them as a human shield against the ANA. Corruption is rampant and justice is expansive. Nepotism and warlordism is all times high while 70% of the state and government affairs are being run online because most of the Minister and officials live abroad or use face book to monitor the situation. Police and military commanders facilitate Taliban and Daesh fighter in attacks against the army and police convoys. On 03 July 2016, Tolonews reported the investigation of 10 important Police commander over the attack that targeted a convoy of police recruits in Kabul.

The writer is author of Fixing the EU Intelligence Crisis. Viwes expressed in this article are author’s own.

A bunch of shenanigans, who read this crap.

 

[pakistani342]

Hear hear!

I must tell you, hateful as I am of the Indian bureaucracy as being the least efficient, there is one positive aspect. They follow 'due process' because they must in India as all things are put for review and/or challenged in courts. In Pakistan, everyone in the Govt or bureaucracy or military prefers the short cuts - which bring better results ofcourse but do have a cost in terms of not building institutional capacity.

I don't agree with that.

The corruption in Pakistan as is often lamented by Pakistanis is intact much less than in India by some measures -- Just the 2G (scam was it -- I could have the number wrong) was larger than the total government corruption in Pakistan for the same period (of course India is much larger than Pakistan so you have to normalize for that).

The courts system in Pakistan as broken as it is still more efficient than in India (save for celebrity cases like the Mumbai 2008 trail -- also compare this to the trial of Samjhuta express). The reason is not due process which strangely (if you have had to do business in Pakistan you know) has to be followed,(even in a country like Pakistan) -- the reason is that the laws are slightly different and as with smaller organizations the processes and thinking are by nature more agile (given all other things equal).

For example I've compared the speed/cost of/hiring people/setting up startups in India vs Pakistan -- Pakistan I can have an operation up and running in 4 weeks. In India just hiring people was a nightmare -- took me months at a time (plus hiring IIT folks was off the table -- they only wanted to work for Google, Facebook -- In Pakistan I can hire top talent as a startup). Further, in India, people would often accept a better offer at the last second -- how do I even plan for that. Getting a phone installed, Internet options, Industrial power connections are all much faster in the backwaters of Pakistan compared to Bangaluru or Hayderabad -- and the Pakistanis are very creative -- I've had triple redundancy in infrastructure in Pakistan.

India's principal advantage which Pakistan can do nothing about is India's relative size and some cultural advantages IMHO. India also has an elite culture of scholarship (perhaps owing this to the tradition of scholarship in the Hindhu Brahmin tradition). Pakistan does not have anything that equates -- thought Pakistanis offset it in other areas, like creativity and agility. Another huge disadvantage that Pakistan has is that it is a Muslim country -- bad bad Image problem. The Muslim civilization being at the center of the world has naturally (due to its geography) been with conflict with more other civilizations than any other civilization -- so there is an image offset -- couple that with the religiosity that has gripped Pakistan since 1980s and you have a problem doing business in Pakistan from an image perspective. No "white" client relishes visiting Lahore while the opposite is simply not true for India -- everyone wants their selfie taken in-front of the Taj Mahal.

Now -- India again due to I think better top leadership and its size has been more strategic. Pakistan leveraged its relationship to send a few stupid generals to staff college in the US while India was busy having partnerships between IITs and universities like MIT, etc. Pakistan does not think strategically enough and does not think big enough [to an extent India does not think big enough for its size].

Now if you compare this to China -- it is a dream doing business in China -- and the Chinese have worked very hard to be large and agile -- it is mind boggling how they have done it but I suspect they have been working very hard at it for 40 years. If China is Diesel locomotive - India is a bullock cart -- Pakistan sohrab cycle -- take your pick

 

[DSM0305]

I seen nothing but disappointment since the day I joined this forum; Pakistanis seems to be incapable of meaningful discussion. ''Afghanistan a colony of India'', this would be a laughable joke, if I didn't know people actually meant it. Frankly speaking, it is kinda ironic that the former colony of Britain claiming Afghanistan to be a colony, lol. The saddest part is that the former colony of Britain, doesn't know what the word ''colony'' means. Yeah... it wouldn't be that sad if Pakistan didn't have English as an official language...