Adversary: That grin on BS Dhanoa's face when he talk about Rafale

[Quwa]

PAF talks with for Eurofighter collapsed in 2018 due to Lack of possibility to add meteor in the deal. MBDA simply wouldn't commit to the PAF Typhoon purchase nor would the host EU Country pitching us the Fighter.

So, is the PAF at the stage of just taking what's on offer from wherever, or stick to its guns, even if it'll mean waiting for Project Azm?

 

[MIG21DOWN]

Reality is, India has swiftly changed its offensive defence policy into action, Feb episode is a check up, for the actions thy be taking on later in August in IOK.
While pak airforce lacks, real modernisation thy all. Gets happy to listen some new stories about our F16S BLK this and tht bt in reality with all these so call super duper F16S, we failed misseriblly, in FEB when IAF came in long distance with its mirrages 2000 Verision?
It's a hard fact, Rafael I'll be a big boater and will be very helpful when Indian army be taken over Azad Kashmir and GB in next few months

Stop larping gangu.

 

[Ark_Angel]

So, is the PAF at the stage of just taking what's on offer from wherever, or stick to its guns, even if it'll mean waiting for Project Azm?

Men in Blue are hard task masters. Let’s see how it unfolds. One thing is certain they don’t go for what’s on offer. They will put their own requirements.

 

[loanranger]

Reality is, India has swiftly changed its offensive defence policy into action, Feb episode is a check up, for the actions thy be taking on later in August in IOK.
While pak airforce lacks, real modernisation thy all. Gets happy to listen some new stories about our F16S BLK this and tht bt in reality with all these so call super duper F16S, we failed misseriblly, in FEB when IAF came in long distance with its mirrages 2000 Verision?
It's a hard fact, Rafael I'll be a big boater and will be very helpful when Indian army be taken over Azad Kashmir and GB in next few months

Gangu Spotted

 

[Mav3rick]

Another recent interview of BS Dhanoa.

The grin on his face when he talks about Rafale indicates that either he is unaware of the countermeasures that PAF would take or he is super confident about the capabilities of Rafale.

Block-III with PL-15 or Vipers with AIM-120D badly needed to give a shut-up call to this guy.

IAF, having evaluated the highest block of F-16's, amongst other platforms, along with all its armaments and proposals for upgrades, would be in a very good position to compare them with Rafale and her armaments.

We must get our hands on J-31, hopefully it has matured into a platform that can best RAFALE in diverse situations and against the odds.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Reality is, India has swiftly changed its offensive defence policy into action, Feb episode is a check up, for the actions thy be taking on later in August in IOK.
While pak airforce lacks, real modernisation thy all. Gets happy to listen some new stories about our F16S BLK this and tht bt in reality with all these so call super duper F16S, we failed misseriblly, in FEB when IAF came in long distance with its mirrages 2000 Verision?
It's a hard fact, Rafael I'll be a big boater and will be very helpful when Indian army be taken over Azad Kashmir and GB in next few months

you do believe as per Indian version their mirages stayed 21 minutes in Pakistani airspace, and we are ready if war will happen, yes we need PAF upgrades or replacement of mirages but we are not weak @batmannow

 

[Mav3rick]

this plus datalink with the awacs means killing the rafale over 200kms away with the existing JF17s. Blk3 with AESA would just make it that much more sweeter...

So you discard the supremely capable electronic warfare capability on the RAFALE as if it is not worth considering when there are claims the sensors onboard RAFALE make it virtually invisible to enemy radars. So, to begin with, you have to 'detect' is before you can engage it and even then the automated and instantaneous electronic warfare suite of RAFALE has many tricks up her sleeve to jam/deceive hostile incoming suicide vehicles.

 

[mudas777]

He came up against a well thought out plan, and had wrong intel.
We gave them all the intel they needed on the 27th.

Not like we had a choice but to get something you have to trade something away.

The biggest mistake the PAF made was disclosing we heard their communications. Whoever allowed the release of that info should have a deep introspection into their bravado.

NEVER underestimate your enemy. The IAF has paid for it on the 27th, but we have done so many more times in the past

As a nation we are very good with bravado and we forget about the thinking cap every time we open our mouth. Never realising the damage it can do for our silliness at times. Think we need another layer of MOD's who should just delete the information which is not for every one eyes.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

He came up against a well thought out plan, and had wrong intel.
We gave them all the intel they needed on the 27th.

Not like we had a choice but to get something you have to trade something away.

The biggest mistake the PAF made was disclosing we heard their communications. Whoever allowed the release of that info should have a deep introspection into their bravado.

NEVER underestimate your enemy. The IAF has paid for it on the 27th, but we have done so many more times in the past

Did we blocked or listened to their communications????

 

[Quwa]

Men in Blue are hard task masters. Let’s see how it unfolds. One thing is certain they don’t go for what’s on offer. They will put their own requirements.

Indeed. If they can't guarantee the Meteor, another option is to pull for gains elsewhere. So, for ex. ask for T1s at low cost as part of a contract for T3s (if they're still interested in the Typhoon).

 

[JonAsad]

The hype around Rafale will die down soon same like the vedic vimana MKI..

 

[Ark_Angel]

Indeed. If they can't guarantee the Meteor, another option is to pull for gains elsewhere. So, for ex. ask for T1s at low cost as part of a contract for T3s (if they're still interested in the Typhoon).

T-1s have major structural upgrade issues to bring them at par to T-3. If any country per say PAF wants to follow that route it might cost it a fortune. would be looking forward to your analysis on it. After Blacklisting of Turkey by the Indians in the realm of defence sector tense days ahead for Pakistani European Acquisitions.

 

[The Eagle]

After Blacklisting of Turkey by the Indians in the realm of defence sector

Indians blacklisting Turkiye for their own defence requirements or that supports the Western analogy?

 

[Quwa]

Indians blacklisting Turkiye for their own defence requirements or that supports the Western analogy?

Basically, India will go after anyone who sells to Pakistan. The only countries who will sell to Pak are those with a serious problem with India.

 

[The Eagle]

Basically, India will go after anyone who sells to Pakistan. The only countries who will sell to Pak are those with a serious problem with India.

That is understood in such terms as India has already started the propaganda against Turkiye. I was just reading a piece and posted my comment as well whereby a news outlet discusses that Pakistan may be exporting N Tech to Turkiye.... two birds with one stone especially since propaganda is the best selling brand for the foes. However, it will be interesting that almost every EU OEM will fall to Indian mouthpiece. Can't doubt French as they have their own reason to do so but we can make a positive reach to others excluding French though, they are also providing some help (electric harnesses) for Thunders & if I am not wrong, we signed an MOU during Defence Exhibition in Karachi.