What you are talking about is an ideal system..Unfortunately there isn't any neither there will be...Thus one for the larger interest of society has to police around(reasons we have Police..Courts..Law)...Now when it comes to freedom of speech you cannot just rely on person's judgement because you can kill more people by a pen than by a sword...Thus hate speeches..inciting religious bias...provoking riot's sentiments are all consider as crime...
I am indeed talking of the ideal system...but you lost me there after....policing is against the perpetuation of 'crime' which the people of the country define...when they lay down the penal codes...the job of the police is to prevent crime.
this is the job of the police in a democracy..
in a fascist system...the state interferes in matters of personal choices too...and does what we in India have always called as moral policing.
I am not talking about crimes as defined by the IPC...I am talking about personal liberty...and what ever comes in the subset of crime...i oppose it...and hence i support criminal policing.
would you support a draft for the army if it ever happens in India during peace time?I'd not because I'd consider it undemocratic....and imposed.
Thus hate speeches..inciting religious bias...provoking riot's sentiments are all consider as crime...
anyone can say anything which doesn't directly harm anyone...the people who listen to varun gandhi and pick knives and guns to kill...should be arrested...they lacked a conscience did not use their education...and also committed a crime.
so as long as varun gandhi goes home and sips coffee after his hate speech...the state can only use the preventive arrest clause against him....cus he din't do anything.
Hatred is not a crime...and inciting is a two way word...you are not supposed to get incited.
i must also ad...that whatever you've noticed and are talking about...makes infinte sense as it is India that we are talking about and as long as every single person doesn't receive a proper education these high morals will look good only on paper.
Though i can see where you are coming from but there are reasons that even suicide is a crime...Now we can argue that society should be free or not but as long as my actions are not causing issues to anyone i agree with your overall point
let's talk about suicide....why is it a crime?
a guy has been badly fukced...he chooses to roll over and die...he is not harming anyone now is he?
the state doesn't want it's productive population to hara-kiri itself.
suicide is rightly a crime in most places...it's not an individual suicide that the govt is worried about...it is the notion that your suicide attempt gets you no punishment if you fail to kill yourself...so suicide is an option if your wife doesn't pick up your 100th call....is what worries the govt. so suicide can't be compared to other individual freedoms...
The point is not that if you do not sing VandeMatram you are disrespecting country. The point is if this song has no religious bias then why it should not get the place that this song deserves...You and I cannot deny the historical importance of this song then why are we denying our generations to know about it??? You need not be pushy about patriotic fervour but you got to infuse that in your youngsters..same way youth from the early age is exposed to religion....
so you don't know the vande matram story do you?
in Islam...idol worship is banned...you can't be a muslim if you worship an idol.vande matram is a song that worships bharat mata...and we have visual depictions of bharath mata with the political map of india sticking to her rear.
muslims don't want to loose their faith proclaiming their love for the country...I say let's pass.