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"..who claims to be a prophet in any sense of the word or of any description whatsoever after Syedna Muhammad (saw), and that I do not recognize such a claimant to be a prophet or a religious reformer..."

Le, te jab tuaday farzi Syedna Isa (as) aasman se utran gaei to hun tusi iss shik de nal ki karo gai?

Will it need further amending to just leave Ahmadis in there?

Prophet Isa (AS) would come as a follower of Sharia of Prophet Muhammad(SAW) and won't declare a new sharia and prophet hood like Mirza.

You are confusing things her.
 
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Nabi ka naam ki itni parwa .... magar unki talimat ki kuch parwa nahi ... Stop selling the name of Holy Prophet Peace Be Upon Him ................for personal gain ...
 
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There should be restrictions on Ahmadis because they are not Muslims.

What is the problem here?
 
Indeed they are not but they do have a central figure whom they are Bayt too. Thier leaders are enemies of our state, in league with the likes of Israel. They actively try to misrepresent Islamic identity and in doing so try to subvert its foundations.

If they identified themselves as non Muslims there wouldn't be a problem.
Dil buhat kerta hey but I wont use foul language

If it wasnt for Ahmadis, Pakistan would be a dream still. U would be living under Moodi's oppression right nw.

Just claiming they are enemies is the work of igno-rants. Take a step back in history and check out how pakistan was created.

These mullah who claim Ahmadis are enemies, were saying pakistan was pledistan. Qaid left india for good because of these leeches. But Ahmadis convinced him, brought him back. An Ahmadi fought the boundary commission case, an ahmadi introduced Pakistan first time in UN, first ever force to fight in kashmir for Pakistan called Furqan Force was created and lead by Ahmadis, An Ahmadi brought noble prize for u
Also, go and read who really initiated atomic power project in Pakistan
In 65, the only war we won gracefully from india, go and read what Ahmadis did for Pakistan

You guys have short memory and this nation is really a thankless nation!!

Also, after all the persecution, bring me proof of a single incident where Ahamdis have ever brought any harm to the country, its property or its people

Other than fabricates stories and blind faith, u guys are empty from inside really
 
Dil buhat kerta hey but I wont use foul language

If it wasnt for Ahmadis, Pakistan would be a dream still. U would be living under Moodi's oppression right nw.

Just claiming they are enemies is the work of igno-rants. Take a step back in history and check out how pakistan was created.

These mullah who claim Ahmadis are enemies, were saying pakistan was pledistan. Qaid left india for good because of these leeches. But Ahmadis convinced him, brought him back. An Ahmadi fought the boundary commission case, an ahmadi introduced Pakistan first time in UN, first ever force to fight in kashmir for Pakistan called Furqan Force was created and lead by Ahmadis, An Ahmadi brought noble prize for u
Also, go and read who really initiated atomic power project in Pakistan
In 65, the only war we won gracefully from india, go and read what Ahmadis did for Pakistan

You guys have short memory and this nation is really a thankless nation!!

Also, after all the persecution, bring me proof of a single incident where Ahamdis have ever brought any harm to the country, its property or its people

Other than fabricates stories and blind faith, u guys are empty from inside really
You sound like one of them.

Iqbal was a Muslim.
Jinnah was a Muslim.
Those who fought for Pakistan and she'd blood were Muslims.

The Ahmediya are non Muslims who claim a false Prophet.

Pakistan was a prize Allah gave to Muslims for our sacrifice. It was not a gift from Kafir. Just as you people try to rewrite Islam you are trying to rewrite Pakistani history and heritage. We will not stand for it.

This is thier true face.

https://weeklycorporateambassador.w...-300-pakistani-women-serving-in-israels-army/

https://www.rabwah.net/ahmadiyya-leader-welcomes-indian-pm-modi-israel-along-israeli-pm-netanyahu/


http://thecult.info/blog/tag/israel/

http://irshad.org/exposed.php

Fruits of the tree planted by the British as their false Prophet described himself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_British_Government_and_Jihad

http://irshad.org/exposed/service.php
 
You sound like one of them.

Iqbal was a Muslim.
Jinnah was a Muslim.
Those who fought for Pakistan and she'd blood were Muslims.

The Ahmediya are non Muslims who claim a false Prophet.

Pakistan was a prize Allah gave to Muslims for our sacrifice. It was not a gift from Kafir. Just as you people try to rewrite Islam you are trying to rewrite Pakistani history and heritage. We will not stand for it.

This is thier true face.

https://weeklycorporateambassador.w...-300-pakistani-women-serving-in-israels-army/

https://www.rabwah.net/ahmadiyya-leader-welcomes-indian-pm-modi-israel-along-israeli-pm-netanyahu/


http://thecult.info/blog/tag/israel/

http://irshad.org/exposed.php

Fruits of the tree planted by the British as their false Prophet described himself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_British_Government_and_Jihad

http://irshad.org/exposed/service.php

Despite Ahmediya community's strong bilateral relationship with Israel/India, Ahmedhiya community was among the major driving forces that supported Jinnah (R.A) for Pakistan. Even those who opposed Jinnah (R.A) were Muslims, not Ahmedhiya.

While Muslim groups were busy opposing Jinnah (R.A) simply because of Jinnah's liberal view who indulged women in participation for the politics including his sisters didn't sit well with those Muslim groups, Ahmedhiya community was on the front runner for Jinnah (R.A) and Pakistan against all the odds.

The recent bilateral relationship might be the result of blasphemy laws that targeted and oppressed Ahmedhiya community for years, even failed to acknowledge Abdus Salam who was the prize for Pakistan simply because of his background [religion]. What do you expect them to do? Many have sought shelters as the result because of massive discrimination.

And here is Jinnah (R.A)'s takes on Ahmedhiya community; The Pakistan Jinnah would have wanted

In the early 1940s, when Jinnah was trying to form a broad-based collation to bolster the fortunes of the All India Muslim League (AIML), he was asked by some of his potential non-AIML allies to declare the Ahmadis as non-Muslim.

In May 1944, during a press conference in Kashmir, Jinnah said to the gathered pressmen, “who am I to call a person non-Muslim who calls himself a Muslim …”
 
@waz brother a humble request to you probably last time pls close this thread.
 
You sound like one of them.

Iqbal was a Muslim.
Jinnah was a Muslim.
Those who fought for Pakistan and she'd blood were Muslims.

The Ahmediya are non Muslims who claim a false Prophet.

Pakistan was a prize Allah gave to Muslims for our sacrifice. It was not a gift from Kafir. Just as you people try to rewrite Islam you are trying to rewrite Pakistani history and heritage. We will not stand for it.

This is thier true face.

https://weeklycorporateambassador.w...-300-pakistani-women-serving-in-israels-army/

https://www.rabwah.net/ahmadiyya-leader-welcomes-indian-pm-modi-israel-along-israeli-pm-netanyahu/


http://thecult.info/blog/tag/israel/

http://irshad.org/exposed.php

Fruits of the tree planted by the British as their false Prophet described himself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_British_Government_and_Jihad

http://irshad.org/exposed/service.php

My elders, evil Qadianis, were standing with Jinnah (rh) while your mullahs, the ahraris and jamaat i islami(the irshad website is run by their ilk) were worshiping Gandhi and calling him the saviour of Muslims when Pakistan was made.

Words of Sheikh Hassam-ud-Din, a leader of Aharis:

"We shall every time prefer the Hindu India against Pakistan
the renegade of Islam..

On the other hand what shall we lose, as Muslims. If Jawahar
Lal and Gandhi walking in the footsteps of the Upright Caliphs,

do decimate all traces of inequality and iniquity in the society'?"
(Taareekh-i-Ahraar: pages 59-~0)

Another gem from the Ahrari leader about Jinnah (rh):

"we are clearly against sacrificing millions of Muslims
so that a kingly throne may be prepared for a Yazeed-like Muslim".
('Sayyad Ata Ullah Shah Bukhari': page 109: by Shoarish
Kashmiri)

A pamphlet printed by the Jamat i Islami Hind had the caption, "Pakistan is the myth created by the British Agents". Yet another brochure said. "Undoubtedly the idea of Pakistan is a political inspiration not a Godly revelation. Nay' it is a revelation from Buckinghan Palace received by Dr. Iqbal when he recently returned from London. This revelation was again revealed to the Muslim League deputation led by Chaudhri Khaleeq-uz-Zaman to Egypt and London for their Hajj pilgrimage .... This, after a little while, was adopted by Mr. Jinnah, who permitted it to be passed at the Lahore Meeting". (A pamphlet issued by the members of the Central Muslim Parliamentary Board and "Tahreek-i-Pakistan par ek nazar" by Maulana Mohammad Hifzur Rahman Seyo haari, Chief Secretary Central Jamiat-i-Islam-i-Hind: printed by Dehli Printing Works, Delhi.

During the 1945-46 elections, the Ahrar, the Jamiat-i-Ulamai-Hind and the Maudoodi Jama'at all three loyally and faithfully served the Hindu Congress as their Fifth Column and violently opposed the Muslim League. The only difference between these three was that the Ahraar and the Jamiat openly fought the elections against the League most vigorously; while the Jama'ati-lslami was exhorting the general Muslims to boycott the elections and not to exert for their self-determination. They all were in league with the Congress and were doing their utmost to bring the Pakistan Movement to nought. For Maulana Maudoodi gave his ruling (fatwa) that it would be a sacrilege for the Muslims to take part in those elections and claimed that only his stand reflected the true teachings of the Quran and the traditions of the Holy Prophet (saw). On top of this he had declared that Qaid-I-Azam was a "reprobate person' and Pakistan would be the abode of stupid simpletons to acquire which would be a mere waste of time". Risala Tarjuman-ul-Quran: pages 154-160 of February 1946 and May 1946: pages 45-347)

ln appreciation of the loyal services rendered by the Jama't-i-lslami to the Hindu Congress and for their encouragement Mr. Gandhi abandoned his prayer-programme to attend the meeting of the Jamat-islami held on 26 April, 194 7 at Patna, telling" them how pleased he was to come''. (Roodaad-i-Jamaat-i-lslami, Par. 5: page 172). The proceedings of this meeting were also reported by the Congress paper. Searchlight in its Sunday edition of 27 April, 194 7)

While the contending Mullas, trained and tutored by the Congress (as the Qaid-i-Azam aptly described them) left no stone unturned in trying to beat the Muslim League in these elections. Hazrat Mirza Bashirud Din Mahmud Ahmad, the Imam of the Ahmadiyya Jama'at, on 22 October, 1945. commanded his followers that "Every Ahmadi must support the Muslim League in the coming elections" so that the Muslim League without the least plea or pretext from the Congress could claim to be the sole representative of the Indian Muslims. Because, if we the Ahmadis and the other Muslim communities do not do this then, the Muslim cause shall receive a deadly shock and the Muslims shall have no voice in the future administration of the country. This shall be so ruinous a loss from which we shall not be able to recover before forty or fifty years. It is quite incomprehensible for me to believe, even for a moment that any clear-headed and far-sighted person could ever take the responsibility of such disastrous step". (AI Fazl 22 October. 1945)

Prior to making the above declaration, the Imam of the Ahmadiyya Jama'at had given instructions to his followers to support the Muslim League. A copy of these instructions was also sent to the Qaid-i-Azam who was highly pleased and released it for the Press which was published in the Daily Dawn of 8 October, 1945 with reference to the Associated Press of India.

The manner in which the Ahmadiyya Community welcomed the above command of their beloved leader could easily be gauged from the brochure of the Ahraar Party, published under the caption, "The hide and Seekh of the' Muslim League and the Ahmadiyya Jama' at" a short comment published in October 1948 said, "It was the Muslim League alone from which the disciples of the Mirza could hope to obtain some concessions because Sir Zafrullah Khan, a Mirzaee was in 1931 the President of the Muslim League.

When bitterness between the Congress and the Muslim League increased, the demand for Pakistan became more and more vehement ... Mirza Mahmud and his propaganda machinery came into quick motion and made contact and started a correspondence with Mr. Jinnah who never cared to give it a moment's thought how disastrous would this union be to Islam as a whole. Eventually, Mr. Jinnah allowed the Ahmadis to become members of the Muslim League .... A meeting of the All-lndia Council of the Muslim League was convened on 30 July, 1944 at Lahore in which Maulana Abdul Hamid Badaayuni gave notice for a resolution to the effect that Mirzaes were not Muslims and should therefore, be expelled from the Muslim League.

But Mr Jinnah flatly refused to allow any discussion on this resolution. Indeed who would listen to a sane religious counsel in the insane gathering of the Muslim League. Because the Muslim League is an organisation where one could stay only when one was prepared to lick Jinnah's shoes or Jinnah type capitalists of the League .... When the elections started after the Dewal Conference in 1945, secret negotiations started between the Mirzaees and the Leaguists. Mirza Mahmud, the Caliph of Qadian, made an important announcement in the month of October and after quoting a few sentences from the said announcement the writer said that that required no further exposition Jinnah, then made a speech at Quetta and very highly praised the policy of Mirza Mahmud.

A little later the elections were held and all the Mirzaees voted in favour of the Muslim
League. When Maulana Zafar Ali Khan, who at one time was a very bitter enemy of the Mirzaes, contested the seat against Mr. Gaba, the Muslim League District Office at Gurdaspur addressed a letter to Mirza Mahmud of Qadian, clearly indicating that the Mirzaees were Muslims". After quoting the said letter it goes on to say: On receipt of this letter all the Mirzaee went to Batala and the workers of the Muslim League received them with open arms and embraced them. Consequently they all voted for Maulana Zafar Ali Khan and other Muslim League leaders who had come from Lahore did also witness this scene".
(Pages 18-19)

So If your thinking is influenced by the links you posted and it makes us British or whatever agents, then so be it. Pakistan, Jinnah (rh) and Iqbal (rh) were all British agents. We all agents made Pakistan together, I suggest folks like you move back to India under the beloved Gandhi dynasty or something. Pakistan is ours.
 
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My elders, evil Qadianis, were standing with Jinnah (rh) while your mullahs, the ahraris and jamaat i islami(the irshad website is run by their ilk) were worshiping Gandhi and calling him the saviour of Muslims when Pakistan was made.

Words of Sheikh Hassam-ud-Din, a leader of Aharis:

"We shall every time prefer the Hindu India against Pakistan
the renegade of Islam..

On the other hand what shall we lose, as Muslims. If Jawahar
Lal and Gandhi walking in the footsteps of the Upright Caliphs,

do decimate all traces of inequality and iniquity in the society'?"
(Taareekh-i-Ahraar: pages 59-~0)

Another gem from the Ahrari leader about Jinnah (rh):

"we are clearly against sacrificing millions of Muslims
so that a kingly throne may be prepared for a Yazeed-like Muslim".
('Sayyad Ata Ullah Shah Bukhari': page 109: by Shoarish
Kashmiri)

A pamphlet printed by the Jamat i Islami Hind had the caption, "Pakistan is the myth created by the British Agents". Yet another brochure said. "Undoubtedly the idea of Pakistan is a political inspiration not a Godly revelation. Nay' it is a revelation from Buckinghan Palace received by Dr. Iqbal when he recently returned from London. This revelation was again revealed to the Muslim League deputation led by Chaudhri Khaleeq-uz-Zaman to Egypt and London for their Hajj pilgrimage .... This, after a little while, was adopted by Mr. Jinnah, who permitted it to be passed at the Lahore Meeting". (A pamphlet issued by the members of the Central Muslim Parliamentary Board and "Tahreek-i-Pakistan par ek nazar" by Maulana Mohammad Hifzur Rahman Seyo haari, Chief Secretary Central Jamiat-i-Islam-i-Hind: printed by Dehli Printing Works, Delhi.

During the 1945-46 elections, the Ahrar, the Jamiat-i-Ulamai-Hind and the Maudoodi Jama'at all three loyally and faithfully served the Hindu Congress as their Fifth Column and violently opposed the Muslim League. The only difference between these three was that the Ahraar and the Jamiat openly fought the elections against the League most vigorously; while the Jama'ati-lslami was exhorting the general Muslims to boycott the elections and not to exert for their self-determination. They all were in league with the Congress and were doing their utmost to bring the Pakistan Movement to nought. For Maulana Maudoodi gave his ruling (fatwa) that it would be a sacrilege for the Muslims to take part in those elections and claimed that only his stand reflected the true teachings of the Quran and the traditions of the Holy Prophet (saw). On top of this he had declared that Qaid-I-Azam was a "reprobate person' and Pakistan would be the abode of stupid simpletons to acquire which would be a mere waste of time". Risala Tarjuman-ul-Quran: pages 154-160 of February 1946 and May 1946: pages 45-347)

ln appreciation of the loyal services rendered by the Jama't-i-lslami to the Hindu Congress and for their encouragement Mr. Gandhi abandoned his prayer-programme to attend the meeting of the Jamat-islami held on 26 April, 194 7 at Patna, telling" them how pleased he was to come''. (Roodaad-i-Jamaat-i-lslami, Par. 5: page 172). The proceedings of this meeting were also reported by the Congress paper. Searchlight in its Sunday edition of 27 April, 194 7)

While the contending Mullas, trained and tutored by the Congress (as the Qaid-i-Azam aptly described them) left no stone unturned in trying to beat the Muslim League in these elections. Hazrat Mirza Bashirud Din Mahmud Ahmad, the Imam of the Ahmadiyya Jama'at, on 22 October, 1945. commanded his followers that "Every Ahmadi must support the Muslim League in the coming elections" so that the Muslim League without the least plea or pretext from the Congress could claim to be the sole representative of the Indian Muslims. Because, if we the Ahmadis and the other Muslim communities do not do this then, the Muslim cause shall receive a deadly shock and the Muslims shall have no voice in the future administration of the country. This shall be so ruinous a loss from which we shall not be able to recover before forty or fifty years. It is quite incomprehensible for me to believe, even for a moment that any clear-headed and far-sighted person could ever take the responsibility of such disastrous step". (AI Fazl 22 October. 1945)

Prior to making the above declaration, the Imam of the Ahmadiyya Jama'at had given instructions to his followers to support the Muslim League. A copy of these instructions was also sent to the Qaid-i-Azam who was highly pleased and released it for the Press which was published in the Daily Dawn of 8 October, 1945 with reference to the Associated Press of India.

The manner in which the Ahmadiyya Community welcomed the above command of their beloved leader could easily be gauged from the brochure of the Ahraar Party, published under the caption, "The hide and Seekh of the' Muslim League and the Ahmadiyya Jama' at" a short comment published in October 1948 said, "It was the Muslim League alone from which the disciples of the Mirza could hope to obtain some concessions because Sir Zafrullah Khan, a Mirzaee was in 1931 the President of the Muslim League.

When bitterness between the Congress and the Muslim League increased, the demand for Pakistan became more and more vehement ... Mirza Mahmud and his propaganda machinery came into quick motion and made contact and started a correspondence with Mr. Jinnah who never cared to give it a moment's thought how disastrous would this union be to Islam as a whole. Eventually, Mr. Jinnah allowed the Ahmadis to become members of the Muslim League .... A meeting of the All-lndia Council of the Muslim League was convened on 30 July, 1944 at Lahore in which Maulana Abdul Hamid Badaayuni gave notice for a resolution to the effect that Mirzaes were not Muslims and should therefore, be expelled from the Muslim League.

But Mr Jinnah flatly refused to allow any discussion on this resolution. Indeed who would listen to a sane religious counsel in the insane gathering of the Muslim League. Because the Muslim League is an organisation where one could stay only when one was prepared to lick Jinnah's shoes or Jinnah type capitalists of the League .... When the elections started after the Dewal Conference in 1945, secret negotiations started between the Mirzaees and the Leaguists. Mirza Mahmud, the Caliph of Qadian, made an important announcement in the month of October and after quoting a few sentences from the said announcement the writer said that that required no further exposition Jinnah, then made a speech at Quetta and very highly praised the policy of Mirza Mahmud.

A little later the elections were held and all the Mirzaees voted in favour of the Muslim
League. When Maulana Zafar Ali Khan, who at one time was a very bitter enemy of the Mirzaes, contested the seat against Mr. Gaba, the Muslim League District Office at Gurdaspur addressed a letter to Mirza Mahmud of Qadian, clearly indicating that the Mirzaees were Muslims". After quoting the said letter it goes on to say: On receipt of this letter all the Mirzaee went to Batala and the workers of the Muslim League received them with open arms and embraced them. Consequently they all voted for Maulana Zafar Ali Khan and other Muslim League leaders who had come from Lahore did also witness this scene".
(Pages 18-19)

So If your thinking is influenced by the links you posted and it makes us British or whatever agents, then so be it. Pakistan, Jinnah (rh) and Iqbal (rh) were all British agents. We all agents made Pakistan together, I suggest folks like you move back to India under the beloved Gandhi dynasty or something. Pakistan is ours.


I'm not deobandi, they weren't my mullahs.
 
I'm not deobandi, they weren't my mullahs.

Ahrar was made up Berelvi, Deobandi, non sectarian and even some Shias. The point is however, we were with Jinnah (rh) completely. From the masses to the top leadership, do not accuse us of insincerity with Pakistan. We are the only community who was with Jinnah (rh) 100%. This cannot be said for any other Muslim community, regardless of what your sect is.
 
Ahrar was made up Berelvi, Deobandi, non sectarian and even some Shias. The point is however, we were with Jinnah (rh) completely. From the masses to the top leadership, do not accuse us of insincerity with Pakistan. We are the only community who was with Jinnah (rh) 100%. This cannot be said for any other Muslim community, regardless of what your sect is.

The community that has soldiers serving in the idf is serving Pakistan how? Why is your religious hq in Israel? I don't deny you your nationality or your patriotism but you can't make us swallow your versions of history.

The Pakistan movement had many more ulema in support of it than opposed to it. This propaganda cannot continue. Jinnah himself sought out the support of the ulema. Your elders were as opportunistic as anyone else. The same people who backed Pakistan served the British before it suited them. Let's not make up angels.
 
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