AbidSher Ali has cut off 350 MW electricity 2 revenue generating engine and economic hub of Pakistan

[darkinsky]

Seriously .. does not answer any of my question .. you think Karachi alone has 70% manufacturing units & the rest of Pakistan has 30% ?? Karachi has most of the service centers of any organization i.e. Headquarters that require little electricity as compared to a manufacturing unit which is situated elsewhere .

Get this Through your Think skull that there wont be anything to trade if there is no electricity to manufacture those goods . what are you going to export Bananas ?? .

Karachi has no Leaders it just , if it actually had it would not have been in this place .

And since it has been made sure that you are nothing but a miserable Troll , who knows nothing about How Economic system works .. and have failed to answer anything Logically .. I am jut wasting my Time with the Likes of you .. so i will not be answering you unless you come to your senses .

you are speaking the biggest nonsense, you have no idea how economies run, and i have tried to explain you in lay men's term, but you are still not getting anything

 

[fani_spy]

stop blaming punjab and fedral govt....u have ur funds..produce ur electricity..Fedral govt is doing what it can.
karachi is not only economic hub...70%? hell no

 

[Patriots]

As i said I have seen with my own eyes how one candidate who was loosing suddenly got 200000 Votes .. so it will be pretty hard for you to convince me that it was not rigging .. it would rater believe my eye then your statement

Did you see the same thing in all polling stations of Karachi....?? I told you few incidents of rigging take place in everywhere in Karachi .........

 

[F.O.X]

Did you see the same thing in all polling stations of Karachi....?? I told you few incidents of rigging take place in everywhere in Karachi .........

you know the saying
"Aqalmand k liye ishara he Kaafi Hay "

had MQM been so assured of victory they would not have opposed the Army deployment on polling stations .. MQM lost every station Army was deployed .. in the subsequent elections .

 

[darkinsky]

stop blaming punjab and fedral govt....u have ur funds..produce ur electricity..Fedral govt is doing what it can.
karachi is not only economic hub...70%? hell no

electricity production needs funds, funds are collected in the form of taxes which is owned by FBR, WAPDA is a federal unit not controlled by provinces, PESCO is also a federal unit, most of the electricity generating units, power houses are run by federal, Sind generates 70% of the gas, all is distributed based on federal formula

if province had any authority there had been no gas in punjab since it contributes only 5% of it and Sind had all it can which contributes 70%

 

[Patriots]

you know the saying
"Aqalmand k liye ishara he Kaafi Hay "

had MQM been so assured of victory they would not have opposed the Army deployment on polling stations .. MQM lost every station Army was deployed .. in the subsequent elections .

In by-elections army was deployed even inside of polling stations ... And you statement is not true that MQM lost every station where army was deployed ... You should give prove in supporting of your claim .............

Seriously .. does not answer any of my question .. you think Karachi alone has 70% manufacturing units & the rest of Pakistan has 30% ?? Karachi has most of the service centers of any organization i.e. Headquarters that require little electricity as compared to a manufacturing unit which is situated elsewhere .

Get this Through your Think skull that there wont be anything to trade if there is no electricity to manufacture those goods . what are you going to export Bananas ?? .

Karachi has no Leaders it just , if it actually had it would not have been in this place .

And since it has been made sure that you are nothing but a miserable Troll , who knows nothing about How Economic system works .. and have failed to answer anything Logically .. I am jut wasting my Time with the Likes of you .. so i will not be answering you unless you come to your senses .

ECONOMY
Karachi is the financial capital of Pakistan. It accounts for the lion's share of Pakistan's GDP and generates about 65% percent of the national revenue providing a Gross Metropolitan Product of PKR. 1.607 trillion or $265 Billion at PPP and a GMP per capita of $21,917 rivaling Western European and American cities. Most of Pakistan's public and private banks have their head offices in Karachi. Besides banking and finance, Karachi also hosts the offices of foreign multinational corporations as well as corporations based in Pakistan. It is home to the largest stock exchange of Pakistan: the Karachi Stock Exchange. This financial boom helped Pakistan to achieve its ambitious goal of exceeding a seven per cent growth in GDP for the fiscal year 2004-05.

Economy Of Karachi

Saturday, June 01, 2013 - Karachi—President, KarachiChamber of Commerceand Industry (KCCI), Muhammad Haroon Agar has said that the metropolis is the industrial and commercial hub of the country which generates 68 percent revenue for the national exchequer.

Karachi generates 68pc revenue for country

 

[F.O.X]

In by-elections army was deployed even inside of polling stations ... And you statement is not true that MQM lost every station where army was deployed ... You should give prove in supporting of your claim .............

All Right I take it back .. not every station but most of them .. the same guy(MQM) who got 40000 votes from one area was unable to take even 3000 in the by election .. Which is enough for people to understand what is going on . DOnt believe me ... then take an independent survey of karachi .. 7/10 will not vote of MQM .. dont believe me do it your self ..

 

[Basel]

with so much bloodshed,target killing,xtortion money,kidnapping happening everyday and very apparent division in ppl at all levels on ethnic basis, im afraid this arent true that ppl are dying to go there for work....many families have migrated to Punjab and Dubai for businesess and to live a peaceful life!

Situation is not good in Karachi but why Bahria Town is investing so huge here?? they say that they are making biggest Bahria Town here, why DHA is creating DHA City?? which is 2.5 times bigger than whole DHA of Karachi (all phases). Why so many ppl are still coming to Karachi from KPK, Tribal Areas, South Panjab, Interior Sindh?? Why Media ppl are shifting to Karachi??

its all because Karachi still generate more jobs than any part of Pakistan. When i got Govt. job in Rawalpindi in 2003 the first question ppl their asked was why u have come here? you could have earned more then twice from here in Karachi, one example a guy gave me was that, his cousin went to Karachi for vacation and its 10 year now he is living happily there bcoz he got good job there. Karachi is a giving city where poor can live better than any part of Pakistan.

 

[Sedqal]

electricity production needs funds, funds are collected in the form of taxes which is owned by FBR, WAPDA is a federal unit not controlled by provinces, PESCO is also a federal unit, most of the electricity generating units, power houses are run by federal, Sind generates 70% of the gas, all is distributed based on federal formula

Energy is a provincial matter - when KPK can introduce new projects there is certainly nothing stopping Sindh from following suit. More provincial autonomy was a long standing demand of MQM (and PPP) and they just got that in amendments which PPP govt made (where PMLN supported them). Energy is now a provincial matter and within a year or two remaining electric supply corporations will also be privatized. Its not like Karachi is being singled out by anyone.

Altaf sahib should request the 'patriotic' generals to sort out this provincial mess

 

[F.O.X]

ECONOMY
Karachi is the financial capital of Pakistan. It accounts for the lion's share of Pakistan's GDP and generates about 65% percent of the national revenue providing a Gross Metropolitan Product of PKR. 1.607 trillion or $265 Billion at PPP and a GMP per capita of $21,917 rivaling Western European and American cities. Most of Pakistan's public and private banks have their head offices in Karachi. Besides banking and finance, Karachi also hosts the offices of foreign multinational corporations as well as corporations based in Pakistan. It is home to the largest stock exchange of Pakistan: the Karachi Stock Exchange. This financial boom helped Pakistan to achieve its ambitious goal of exceeding a seven per cent growth in GDP for the fiscal year 2004-05.

Economy Of Karachi

Saturday, June 01, 2013 - Karachi—President, KarachiChamber of Commerceand Industry (KCCI), Muhammad Haroon Agar has said that the metropolis is the industrial and commercial hub of the country which generates 68 percent revenue for the national exchequer.

Karachi generates 68pc revenue for country

Again you are doing the same mistake .. you are going towards Accumulated numbers .. you are not taking in the fact that that 65% includes cost/Revenue from others parts of Pakistan .. something Manufactured in Sialkot and sold in Karachi does not mean that 100% revenue has been generated in Karachi .. of that 100% only the profit portion belongs to Karachi .. as i said before Karachi houses the Service Ends of most of the Business , that do not require electricity as much as manufacturing units ... a Hub is useless if it does not have anything to trade .

 

[darkinsky]

Energy is a provincial matter - when KPK can introduce new projects there is certainly nothing stopping Sindh from following suit. More provincial autonomy was a long standing demand of MQM (and PPP) and they just got that in amendments which PPP govt made (where PMLN supported them). Energy is now a provincial matter and within a year or two remaining electric supply corporations will also be privatized. Its not like Karachi is being singled out by anyone.

Altaf sahib should request the 'patriotic' generals to sort out this provincial mess

let me give you an example, Sind generates 70% of the gas, and according to the provincial autonomy, Sind should first satisfy its needs then provide to any other province,

so its not so simple as you think,

Punjab makes 5% of the gas, while 60% of Pakistan dwells in Punjab

figure out the rest yourself

if you have the required gas, you have the required amount of electricity

 

[Sedqal]

let me give you an example, Sind generates 70% of the gas, and according to the provincial autonomy, Sind should first satisfy its needs then provide to any other province,

so its so simple as you think,

Punjab makes 5% of the gas, while 60% of Pakistan dwells in Punjab

figure out the rest yourself

Govt of Sindh is selling that gas to Punjab of its own free will and it is an elected govt. Provincial autonomy doesn't mean Sindh will satisfy its need first - provincial autonomy means Federation can not force Sindh to sell or consume the gas.

 

[Basel]

What I have came to know with my experience and observation is that ppl just don't understand politics of Sindh and specially Karachi and try to become gurus of politics and situation here. Its really sad, how many in Pakistan think.

 

[darkinsky]

Govt of Sindh is selling that gas to Punjab of its own free will and it is an elected govt. Provincial autonomy doesn't mean Sindh will satisfy its need first - provincial autonomy means Federation can not force Sindh to sell or consume the gas.

ur statement is v confused u sid its can't force Sind then why the Sind not allowed to satisfy its needs, if it is allowed to consume the gas its produces, it will only sell surplus gas it is not required according to your theory?

Sind will produce electricity but then federal will decide how much electricity still gets the share in each province, Sind generates gas but federal decides how much gas Sind gets, and the amendment has been since PPP's era, why did shahbaz shareef not produced electricity to full fill punjab needs?

why wont Sind sell the gas just to get its electricity stopped by the federal? and yes KESC buys electricity but the federal has stopped KESC to sell those 350 MW even though KESC buys it more expensive

if it has the required amount of gas it can produce its own electricity don't you think?

federal is trying to fullfill punjab needs first then karachi and in the same case federal controls everything, thats was all i was saying

 

[Basel]

Sind will produce electricity but then federal will decide how much electricity still gets the share in each province, Sind generates gas but federal decides how much gas Sind gets, and the amendment has been since PPP's era, why did shahbaz shareef not produced electricity to full fill punjab needs?
why wont Sind sell the gas just to get its electricity stopped by the federal? and yes KESC buys electricity but the federal has stopped KESC to sell those 350 MW even though KESC buys it more expensive
if it has the required amount of gas it can produce its own electricity don't you think?
federal is trying to fullfill punjab needs first then karachi and in the same case federal controls everything, thats was all i was saying

If good governance is implemented in Sindh then this province of Pakistan which will develop rapidly and generate massive revenues and jobs for whole nation, Sindh and Baluchistan are the future of Pakistan due to their massive hidden natural resources.