A Tipping Point in the US-China-Vietnam Triangle

[sweetgrape]

I don't know why this is brought up? are you a cop? lol!! That was like 6 months ago or something like that. I returned the phone to the supplier and they were able to refund me minus shipping (lost money in shipping) in Canadian dollars. Of course I live in Canada and its easier for you to get better pricing in China. I now have a Note 4 and it's doing pretty good. I think my next phone is a Microsoft Windows 10 cell phone.

You have excellent memory, sweetgrapes. No more questions.

Hehe, A Canadian Vietnamese, China-hater bought a Chinese smartphone with high price that can buy Iphone, and it failed after two days, bla bla bla, "good" story.
Crebility comsuming, Is your personal character or common character of Vietnamese? I am thinking

 

[xesy]

Viet are brave people. I am not trying to deny that .

But the advantage of number or fighting will can't make up for the disadvantage of quality now.

If China and SV did not give you weapons , Viet would not win, no matter how brave you are with the consideration of your very high killed and wounded ratio compared with US even when you had support from SV and CN.

Sticks or knives can not fight rifle and airplane ,right ?

There is a way there is a will. When the French came back after WW2 with tanks and airplane, what did we had? A handful of rifles and grenades. Like you said we litteraly fight with sticks and stones. Being supported by both SV and CN didn't make fighting the US easier. But we had our ways of fighting too. 1/3 of the small arm the SVN Liberation Army was scavanged from ambushed US troops. So yeah, we fought, with or without supports.

True with time the nature of war chagnes, but our will doesn't. We welcome anyone dares to test it.

 

[dichoi]

As you said , we have right to do it.

The your right is right of traitor, China is officially became clown of USA in cold war, China committed to counter Soviet Union and socialist countries, included Vietnam.

Um.. What a coincidence !

Many recommendation Nguyen Binh Khiem has said in time of 1500s years for future of Vietnam, is became the realty right now.

Nguyen warlord went to south to take back Yuechang of Viets is based on his idea.

 

[Kyle Sun]

The your right is right of traitor, China is officially became clown of USA in cold war, China committed to counter Soviet Union and socialist countries, included Vietnam

You are clown of SU and CN before 1972 in your logic.

There is a way there is a will. When the French came back after WW2 with tanks and airplane, what did we had? A handful of rifles and grenades. Like you said we litteraly fight with sticks and stones. Being supported by both SV and CN didn't make fighting the US easier. But we had our ways of fighting too. 1/3 of the small arm the SVN Liberation Army was scavanged from ambushed US troops. So yeah, we fought, with or without supports.

True with time the nature of war chagnes, but our will doesn't. We welcome anyone dares to test it.

Okay , I gonna ask one simple question .
Do you believe Viet can still win the war if Viet is a flat land country?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

War in 1970 was much closer to war in 1500's than it is to war in 2000's because the decision makers were still humans who used mechanical devices as weapons/communications/sensing and ground troops (infantry/cavalry) were still the core of all armies just like back in the medieval times. Today, that has all changed. Everything is electronic and airborne/seaborne. The most powerful soldier sits in a chair in an air conditioned room instead of with gun and knife on the battlefield, and he can kill thousands with a mouse click.

 

[Aepsilons]

So i heard today from hearing NPR --- that the Vietnamese Head of the Communist Party visited Obama today. What's the thoughts about that --- this Vietnamese-American entente? What's your view on this Sir @gambit , @jhungary @Viet @xesy @biendong @liubang @NiceGuy, @Yorozuya @Carlosa et al?

Nguyen Phu Trong and President Obama

 

[xesy]

You are clown of SU and CN before 1972 in your logic.


Okay , I gonna ask one simple question .
Do you believe Viet can still win the war if Viet is a flat land country?

Urban warfare, people warfare. In fact we already did that and the US and SVN govt had to employ "strategic hamlets" to counter that. And there shouldn't be any "ifs", because we cannot change the past.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Urban warfare, people warfare. In fact we already did that and the US and SVN govt had to employ "strategic hamlets" to counter that. And there shouldn't be any "ifs", because we cannot change the past.

In this case , we have nothing to discuss .

 

[xesy]

In this case , we have nothing to discuss .

Okay, you started discussing first, not me.

 

[XiaoYaoZi]

As a little country this relation cliping between Two big powers is very dangerous, just like the situation between China and USSR of 1968-1972. Vietnam should learn more how keep balance between the big powers from Thailand. Thailand was one of the first only three sovereignties after WWII, the other two is China and Japan. Thailand has the most affluent experiences to keep balance among US, China and Japan.

 

[gambit]

So i heard today from hearing NPR --- that the Vietnamese Head of the Communist Party visited Obama today. What's the thoughts about that --- this Vietnamese-American entente? What's your view on this Sir @gambit , @jhungary @Viet @xesy @biendong @liubang @NiceGuy, @Yorozuya @Carlosa et al?

I am all for it. Any political party today that have 'communist' in its name might as well substitute in 'loser'. This is a meeting between potential political allies, not ideologues trying to one-up each other.

 

[xesy]

So i heard today from hearing NPR --- that the Vietnamese Head of the Communist Party visited Obama today. What's the thoughts about that --- this Vietnamese-American entente? What's your view on this Sir @gambit , @jhungary @Viet @xesy @biendong @liubang @NiceGuy, @Yorozuya @Carlosa et al?

Nguyen Phu Trong and President Obama

I grew up listening to propaganda, and that might affect how I view the US. I don't believe in "yesterday enemy, today friend" fairy tale. VN-US might be as well friend-with-benefits. Both sides approach each other with different purposes in mind. A few agreements to boost the economy are welcome, but arms contracts are different matters. This will bring the US further into SCS matter, and increase the tension in both the region and around the globe. I am sure China will come up with some reasons to further their military activities in SCS, suppress any involving parties to keep the US out their "personal bathtub". And with that, war is not too far.

 

[Viet]

So i heard today from hearing NPR --- that the Vietnamese Head of the Communist Party visited Obama today. What's the thoughts about that --- this Vietnamese-American entente? What's your view on this Sir @gambit , @jhungary @Viet @xesy @biendong @liubang @NiceGuy, @Yorozuya @Carlosa et al?

Nguyen Phu Trong and President Obama

amazing. and that is the man that once studied in the USSR, fluent in russian, a hardliner.

 

[frequency]

Look at your original post !

It is " no 1000 years domination"

Now you change it to " no 1000 years of continuous Chinese domination ".

You are really a master of chicanery .

There was never a chinese domination in Vietnam. The fact is in today's reality. Lol! You still believe you can fly huh?

 

[Viet]

As a little country this relation cliping between Two big powers is very dangerous, just like the situation between China and USSR of 1968-1972. Vietnam should learn more how keep balance between the big powers from Thailand. Thailand was one of the first only three sovereignties after WWII, the other two is China and Japan. Thailand has the most affluent experiences to keep balance among US, China and Japan.

Thailand can´t be compared to Vietnam. I suggest you read a bit in history: China treats the siamese more as ally, while the vietnamese most as enemy. second, the siamese have neither moral nor scruple. they can side with china today, but japan tomorrow, if the latter offers more money and protection.