A friend in need is a friend indeed - Turkey, China.

[YeBeWarned]

A brother in need is a Brother indeed

 

[Azadkashmir]

well looks like we have to modify ummah rules, join with atheistic china and secular turkey. lolz

You seem to want china to be a servant of Pakistan, all I hear from you pakis is how China isnt loyal etc etc. Ever wondered why you’red nation is the shithole it is today? Instand gratification, you seem to not only think that China owes you something, but that they must lay their lives for pakistant with no attempt to do the same for china. What friend would want his friend to loose power just so he can feel good? You pakis are definitely indians, tactic doesnt exist in your world, its all about feel good gestures.

The power of china comes from its abolity to enage the western cabal in their own games and beat them at it, soviets already tried the alternative and sufface to say they are bo longer with us.
One of the only reason China exist today is because they the made greatest tactical RETREAT, the Long March Forward, they also retreated when the US sent ships and prevented them from taking taiwan, but China doesnt believe in instant gratification.

Its this saying we have in my country, helped you four times I’m your greatest friend, failed to help you once I am your worst enemies, friends like thhis should be killed off. There is also a christian saying to never forget the 1 good someone done for you against the 5 bads, because circumstances must have changed as to why this good person could not help you.

mods derogatory term "pakis".

 

[Hyperion]

Chall bey phuddi kay manhoos Indian. Ja gand marwa amreeka say. Idher ziyada critical analysis na peesh kiya karr, haramkhor!

You seem to want china to be a servant of Pakistan, all I hear from you pakis is how China isnt loyal etc etc. Ever wondered why you’red nation is the shithole it is today? Instand gratification, you seem to not only think that China owes you something, but that they must lay their lives for pakistant with no attempt to do the same for china. What friend would want his friend to loose power just so he can feel good? You pakis are definitely indians, tactic doesnt exist in your world, its all about feel good gestures.

The power of china comes from its abolity to enage the western cabal in their own games and beat them at it, soviets already tried the alternative and sufface to say they are bo longer with us.
One of the only reason China exist today is because they the made greatest tactical RETREAT, the Long March Forward, they also retreated when the US sent ships and prevented them from taking taiwan, but China doesnt believe in instant gratification.

Its this saying we have in my country, helped you four times I’m your greatest friend, failed to help you once I am your worst enemies, friends like thhis should be killed off. There is also a christian saying to never forget the 1 good someone done for you against the 5 bads, because circumstances must have changed as to why this good person could not help you.

 

[Attila the Hun]

I thought Indians were ok with Turks. Mughals were Turks.

Yes, Mughals were Turks...And I keep hearing they intermarried with locals or something. so they're now Indian empire?

Turkey has ZERO relations with india. Pretty sure Pakistan does more business with them than we do. All because of our close brotherly relations with PAKISTAN. This is a fact. and fact that no Indian has come on this thread and proved me wrong is further proof.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

well looks like we have to modify ummah rules, join with atheistic china and secular turkey. lolz

Or choose the third option. Hike it to the West like our parents did.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Yes, Mughals were Turks...And I keep hearing they intermarried with locals or something. so they're now Indian empire?

Turkey has ZERO relations with india. Pretty sure Pakistan does more business with them than we do. All because of our close brotherly relations with PAKISTAN. This is a fact. and fact that no Indian has come on this thread and proved me wrong is further proof.

Turks were busy guys his sword, horse and lot of women.

 

[shahbaz baig]

We should have only one friend which is "interest". Except turkey and china they both should be treated well beyond pakistan's interests. Becuase they have proved that they will always be with us no matter what. But other nations should be treated on behalf of our interests..

Unfortunatly we sacrificed our interest for iran, our first prime minister assassinated because of securing the iranian Oil rights and in return we got nothing yet

 

[Azadkashmir]

Or choose the third option. Hike it to the West like our parents did.

Our parents were totally uneducated but next generation can at least think. I bet that why pak leaders never promote to over sea paks to come back and help economy because they afraid that the deception wont work with them.

 

[Attila the Hun]

You seem to want china to be a servant of Pakistan, all I hear from you pakis is how China isnt loyal etc etc. Ever wondered why you’red nation is the shithole it is today? Instand gratification, you seem to not only think that China owes you something, but that they must lay their lives for pakistant with no attempt to do the same for china. What friend would want his friend to loose power just so he can feel good? You pakis are definitely indians, tactic doesnt exist in your world, its all about feel good gestures.

The power of china comes from its abolity to enage the western cabal in their own games and beat them at it, soviets already tried the alternative and sufface to say they are bo longer with us.
One of the only reason China exist today is because they the made greatest tactical RETREAT, the Long March Forward, they also retreated when the US sent ships and prevented them from taking taiwan, but China doesnt believe in instant gratification.

Its this saying we have in my country, helped you four times I’m your greatest friend, failed to help you once I am your worst enemies, friends like thhis should be killed off. There is also a christian saying to never forget the 1 good someone done for you against the 5 bads, because circumstances must have changed as to why this good person could not help you.

Please tell me you didn't mean to quote me?

 

[HRK]

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hahaha .... troll and false flag who is ashamed to display his INDIAN flag is trying to lecture....

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Turkey and Pakistan are brothers forever. We the Turk nations have Pakistan's best interest at heart @DESERT FIGHTER read this.

You fool, i love Turkey..

I view Turkey as a brotherly country...

 

[Attila the Hun]

You fool, i love Turkey..

I view Turkey as a brotherly country...

Same bro. I love Pakistan. We are more alike than unalike.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Same bro. I love Pakistan. We are more alike than unalike.

Man, I come from a country whose soldiers died for Turkiye.

Whose boys deserted and joined Ottoman army.

Whose sons went to Turkey to fight for Ottomans.

Where mothers and sisters gave their jewellery for the Ottomans..

Lollllllllllllllllllllllllll Please. Just ask an indian if they like Turkey, and they will tell you why they don't.
Your enemy knows too well, how much we support you. Maybe not in frontline but we do most we can.



Think you spent too much time in Turkey lol. Or do Pakistanis also use the word ARAP ??

Nah, we just call them arbi.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

There are some events that really reveal who is with you, who is just going along for the ride, who is neutral about you and who is against you. So it has been with the recent 37-nation FATF plenary held its first meeting on Pakistan on February 20. In that meeting where three members are required to block a motion Turkey, China and Saudia Arabia moved to prevent the US inspired motion going through against Pakistan. I saw on this thread many pro KSA members going ecstatic that their beloved KSA, the second home of Trump and America's $100 billion friend in Middle East tauting how it had opposed the motion.

However the next day Trump rang his Saudi buddies and lo behold Saudia Arabia flushed Pakistan down the toilet. That left Turkey and China holding the thin line for Pakistan. This left only two votes opposing the motion which is insufficient as minimum of three are required to block. China then made a tactical retreat realizing that it was over and made a tactical withdrawel to 'save face' and abstained from any further action.

That left the Turks all alone holding the line. Like a true warrior nation they stuck out to the last and were alone to oppose the motion when they knew Pakistan's cause was doomed. This reminds me of the saying "a friend in need is a friend indeed". I want members to note this.

How the so called ummah centre KSA buckled and appeased USA. And how a athiest state called China fought for Pakistan; And how the great secular Republic of Türkei stood by Pakistan to the last. Much respect to China and a salute to the glorious Republic of Türkei. Thank you.


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The 37-nation FATF plenary held its first meeting on Pakistan on February 20 where China, "Turkey and Saudi Arabia, which was representing the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), opposed the US-led move to place Pakistan on the watchlist. But the US pushed for an unprecedented second discussion on Pakistan, held on February 22.

By then, Washington had convinced Riyadh to give up its support to Pakistan in return for a full FATF membership. This left only two – China and Turkey – in the Pakistan camp, one less than the required number of three members to stall a move.

At this stage, the Chinese informed Islamabad that they were opting out as they did not want to “lose face by supporting a move that’s doomed to fail”, an official source had told Dawn. “Pakistan appreciated the Chinese position and conveyed its gratitude to Turkey for continuing to support Islamabad against all odds,” the source added."


https://www.dawn.com/news/1392285/g...ed-on-fatf-terror-financing-watchlist-in-june

@xenon54 @T-123456 @KediKesenFare @Attila the Hun @Cybernetics @beijingwalker @Chinese-Dragon

Ummah doesn't exist bro. Only in the minds of idealist delusional Pakistanis. I would die for China or Turkey but NEVER any other Muslims or Muslim nations.

 

[xenon54 out]

There are no friends or foes in international geopolitics. Only the naive mislead themselves so.

What interest Turkey has in holding a position against its ally of almost 7 decades in favor of a country it doesnt even officially share a mutual pefence pact at least other than a brotherly feeling and gratitude coming from past?

How the so called ummah centre KSA buckled and appeased USA. And how a athiest state called China fought for Pakistan; And how the great secular Republic of Türkei stood by Pakistan to the last.

I think its very unfortunate that there is a fair share of Pakistanis only seeing conservative Turks as their brothers while they call secular Turks ''wanna be Europeans'' etc. even in this very forum.
For Turks there is no question on how to view Pakistan the sentiment is the same whether he is secular or conservative.

I will just say something that is often being ignored but its very saddening to see the salafism spreading in Pakistan which causes the situation i described above, it didnt bring any good for Pakistan and will just make things, if anything, then worse.