A French General's open letter to Francois Hollande

[Yousafzai_M]

@flamer

Its kinda funny that a Romanian is whining about immigrants in Europe. Ever heard of the 'benefits tourism' from Romania in for example Germany and UK?

 

[Armstrong]

@flamer

Its kinda funny that a Romanian is whining about immigrants in Europe. Ever heard of the 'benefits tourism' from Romania in for example Germany and UK?

We do not descend to the level of personal attacks !

 

[SarthakGanguly]

There are no referendums to consult the people on what they want,the problem gets ignored every time when they get in power.

One question. There was a Moslem Dutch Parliamentarian who said, 'Those who don't integrate into Nederlander kultur, should just f off'. Will he also be ...err evicted? What do you say about him?

PS - I liked that politician. NO BS, no nothing.

 

[flamer84]

Statistics are no reason for hate. Stats are devious anyways. How do I know that? I study peace and security relations in top U.S institute (no kidding, 100% serious). Statistics/polls are NEVER representative of a population.

For example, I can show you statistics which show that 1/3 of ENTIRE U.S population support death of people who work on Sunday, as written in Bible. But does that mean it is REALLY the case?

Moreover, I read a poll which said 27% of French support ISIS. That's a complete bull. Even if ALL French Muslims support ISIS, it will still be less than 10%...so where does this 27% number comes from?

C'mon man..don't develop a confirmation bias in your head.

Non-whites are as Europeans as you are. Lets get out of this racist mentality. This will destroy Europa.

You keep talking to me like i'm proposing death camps.How is stopping the immigration bad in the end and why should Europe continue on this path when most of its people are against it ?

@flamer

Its kinda funny that a Romanian is whining about immigrants in Europe. Ever heard of the 'benefits tourism' from Romania in for example Germany and UK?

Yes i did and it should be adressed to,like i've pointed out countless times.More simply ,it should be outright cut,EU citizen or not you should not get welfare if you go to Germany only for unemployement checks.

One question. There was a Moslem Dutch Parliamentarian who said, 'Those who don't integrate into Nederlander kultur, should just f off'. Will he also be ...err evicted? What do you say about him?

PS - I liked that politician. NO BS, no nothing.

Did i say that ? You see,this is the rhetoric,i've never said evict them all,just stop immigration or better said most of it,there are certainly immigrants who can bring added value and deal with the radicals more harshly.

We do not descend to the level of personal attacks !

No personal attack,he's right,many Romanians are abusing Western idiotic laws and they to should be punished.

 

[ozzy22]

You keep talking to me like i'm proposing death camps.How is stopping the immigration bad in the end and why should Europe continue on this path when most of its people are against it ?




Yes i did and it should be adressed to,like i've pointed out countless times.More simply ,it should be outright cut,EU citizen or not you should not get welfare if you go to Germany only for unemployement checks.




Did i say that ? You see,this is the rhetoric,i've never said evict them all,just stop immigration or better said most of it,there are certainly immigrants who can bring added value and deal with the radicals more harshly.




No personal attack,he's right,many Romanians are abusing Western idiotic laws and they to should be punished.

I thought most immigration from outside the E.U has visually stopped? If there is an issue then it’s with people who are citizens of that country rather than immigrants/immigration.

What would be your solution?

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Most people in Western Europe are against immigration from Eastern Europe. What would be your stance if they stopped all immigration from there and kicked all Eastern European countries out of the E.U? It's something most people want why be against it?

 

[flamer84]

I thought most immigration from outside the E.U has visually stopped? If there is an issue then it’s with people who are citizens of that country rather than immigrants/immigration.

What would be your solution?

1.Outside immigration hasn't really stopped,the boats still keep coming,most are held in immigration camps but many slip even those.

2.Deprive of citizenship those who brake the laws,if they are 1st generation.

3.Tougher laws for hate speech,for those who challenge the current system and i mean real tough,as in life in prison tough even for demanding "sharia for Europe" (as an example) or dare to declare yourself an IS simpathiser.

 

[ozzy22]

1.Outside immigration hasn't really stopped,the boats still keep coming,most are held in immigration camps but many slip even those.

2.Deprive of citizenship those who brake the laws,if they are 1st generation.

3.Tougher laws for hate speech,for those who challenge the current system and i mean real tough,as in life in prison tough even for demanding "sharia for Europe" (as an example) or dare to declare yourself an IS simpathiser.

I think most Muslims would welcome that. We are just as angry and frustrated with extremists as you are. Their stupid actions affects Muslims more than anyone else.

 

[flamer84]

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Most people in Western Europe are against immigration from Eastern Europe. What would be your stance if they stopped all immigration from there and kicked all Eastern European countries out of the E.U? It's something most people want why be against it?

I've adressed this point allready.Even if i'm pro United Europe this should be put to a vote to and if Westerners want us out ,we should walk away.

You can't continue on a path against peoples will.Forcing them on that path will only sweep the dirt under the carpet but that dirt will explode later and with far graver consequences due to all the frustration gathered.

 

[AUz]

You keep talking to me like i'm proposing death camps.How is stopping the immigration bad in the end and why should Europe continue on this path when most of its people are against it ?

You might not be talking about death camps per say, but when you frame millions of human beings...from diverse backgrounds...into one singular "group" and then frame that group as a "problem" ...then it WILL end badly. Not now, may be 50 years..or say 100 years..or say even 150...but this kind of talk leads to death camps, mass forced deportations, and genocide. History has shown this again and again and again.

Also, what do you think should be done with immigrants, non-whites, and Muslims already in Europe?

Send 'em back to their countries in mass deportations but in peaceful manner?

 

[flamer84]

You might not be talking about death camps per say, but when you frame millions of human beings...from diverse backgrounds...into one singular "group" and then frame that group as a "problem" ...then it WILL end badly. Not now, may be 50 years..or say 100 years..or say even 150...but this kind of talk leads to death camps, mass forced deportations, and genocide. History has shown this again and again and again.

Also, what do you think should be done with immigrants, non-whites, and Muslims already in Europe?

Send 'em back to their countries in mass deportations but in peaceful manner?

Yes,it leads to that if you do not adress the core problem like i've pointed above.You can clearly see that ignoring the problem has only helped the far right or extremists in Europe.

I've allready discussed that ,see my 3 points above...no,relax,nothing you've suggested.

 

[AUz]

Yes,it leads to that if you do not adress the core problem like i've pointed above.You can clearly see that ignoring the problem has only helped the far right or extremists in Europe.

I've allready discussed that ,see my 3 points above...no,relax,nothing you've suggested.

If we take your suggestions, then Europe will cease to exist.

For example, Europe/U.S has freedom of speech. Here you can say whatever the retarded fcuk you want, unless you break the law, you can't be detained.

Retards like "Sharia4UK" or "KKK" will NEVER get mainstream...you know it too. So let them just bark. We allow christian hate groups here in U.S as well.

And what 'exactly' you mean by breaking the law? If there is a gang fight..and some gang members are 1st generation immigrants..should we send them back to their parents' countries? lol, what? How does that work? Europe will look like a joke.

Law should be equal for all citizens.

 

[flamer84]

If we take your suggestions, then Europe will cease to exist.

For example, Europe/U.S has freedom of speech. Here you can say whatever the retarded fcuk you want, unless you break the law, you can't be detained.

Retards like "Sharia4UK" or "KKK" will NEVER get mainstream...you know it too. So let them just bark. We allow christian hate groups here in U.S as well.

And what 'exactly' you mean by breaking the law? If there is a gang fight..and some gang members are 1st generation immigrants..should we send them back to their parents' countries? lol, what? How does that work? Europe will look like a joke.

Law should be equal for all citizens.

Why would it look like a joke?.If you're a 1st generation immigrant than you should proove worthy instead of joining a gang,take some responsibility.If you came here to join a gang,than bonne voyage,we have enough native scum in gangs,no need to import others.

As for the free speech excuse,enough of it,the same if you came here only to bark at us or how we should adapt to your laws than fudge off to prison.Let ous not kidd ourselves,sometimes Europe's liberalism is a great weakness and these gents take advantage of it,nothing wrong in changing that and taking some measures.

If we take your suggestions, then Europe will cease to exist.

When did someone decided in all the Europeans names that Europe should be like the Europe of today ,a multicultural "heaven" with gates wide open ? Nobody asked me directly.Did they ask you @Gabriel92? Everything was done above our heads from immigration to legalising homosexual marriages and they told us "shhhh,it's fine,this is Europe and modernity"....well,I beg to disagree.

Let them put it to a referendum in Europe,and if i'm in the minority,i'll accept it.

 

[rockstar08]

why all letters are always open ?? why there are no " Close letters " ?

 

[flamer84]

why all letters are always open ?? why there are no " Close letters " ?

Well,i used to write letters to my politicians asking them to raise budget for the Army and proposing national plans for offsets so that they can bring money in while modernising the Armed Forces.Ofcourse,they probably considered me a nobody and never bothered to respond.So,i guess open letters are better,they will not respond but at least the people will see their inactivity and judge them

 

[Gabriel92]

@flamer84