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"The Taliban have every right to resist foreign occupation just as the french resistance had the right to resist the Nazis in world war 2..."
Nope. The taliban seized power and ruled by the barrel of a gun. They were not elected. Karzai has greater legitimacy and a stronger mandate than the taliban ever did.
"Besides if your so concerned about free and fair elections I suggest you start writing letters of complaint to your own gov for interfering in the democratic process all over the world most notably south America, do I need to mention Chile, Bolivia,Venezuela, etc etc the list is endless the involvement of the U.S criminal."
Kasrkin, this is a rant.
Irrelevant, C.O. Afghanistan is the discussed issue here. Can you stay on topic please?
"You really expect us to buy this bull?"
Evidently you can't count. If so, how would you know one way or another?
"The Taliban were in power for a number of years,not once did we here [sic] any of these horror stories..."
You weren't listening-
Here's the Human Rights Watch from November of 1998-
Afghanistan: The Massacre In Mazur-I-Sharif- HRW
and again-
Afghanistan: Massacres of Hazaras In Afghanistan- HRW February 2001
Something tells me you'll know all about any N.A. atrocities. I'm happy to help on the other side of the coin. Do you need more as I've only scratched the surface of the taliban's particular benevolence?
"Do any of the criems [sic] perpetrated by the U.S gov ever matter to you? I think not."
Are any relevant to this discussion about good and bad taliban?
"I don't believe these figures at all..."
And you offer...?
"U.S bombing results in far more civilian deaths..."
Not according to either the U.N. or HRW.
"...the fact remains that any casualties that might occur as a result of Taliban resistance are unavoidable..."
Intentionally targeting civilians is entirely avoidable.
"...and there would never be any need if it were not for the occupation in the first place."
There's never any "need" to intentionally target civilians. There is no "occupation". Forty nations are in Afghanistan by invitation of the elected afghan government and operating under a U.N. mandate. This mission has broad international support.
"The U.S occupation is the sole reason for people getting blown up in Afghanistan."
A childish comment.
"You know what you can do with you BS organisations and your bollo**s figures don't ya? Yes that's right, where the sun doesn't shine."
Another childish comment. You offer nothing whatsoever of substance in retort.
"No, and that's just your BS that not even the other occupying nations believe."
Actually, those nations see for themselves where attacks are made but no legitimate military target exists. Self evident in too many cases whom were the intended targets. Certainly, the acid disfigurements weren't collateral to attacks on military personnel. I imagine even you can understand that much. Beyond that, there are countless documented cases of targeted attacks and use of human shields.
"The fact is your all right with the millions killed over the past few years by your country all in the name of democracy and freedom, that doesn't matter one bit to you does it?"
"The fact is" you have no facts. "Millions killed over the past few years by your country [America]..."? Not even Lancet went that far. Please provide your links to such unusual claims- if you can. About 20,000 or so have died to date in this conflict. Most by the taliban and a far cry at any rate from either the Afghan civil war or the Afghan-Soviet war.
NATO/ISAF/America have been immensely careful by comparison. In fact, there is no comparison with Afghanistan's recent past when stripping out those killed by the taliban and viewing only those killed by ISAF/America.
"The Taliban do not and have never committed any such crimes,the US however do it as a matter of routine."
Uh huh. Sure.
"Don't tell us what is and what isn't acceptable in our lands,just who the hell do you think you are, the policeman of the world or something?"
You aren't acceptable. Your archaic, brutal vision isn't acceptable. Your cowardly attacks on civilians aren't acceptable. For all those reasons (and more) we wish to kill men like yourself.
Do you object to such? If so, I wish that you'd find the courage of your convictions and march to Afghanistan with a weapon in hand. Can you do so?
That would be helpful to everybody concerned, I believe, and would please me greatly. I'll look forward to your posts as never before if so.
Nope. The taliban seized power and ruled by the barrel of a gun. They were not elected. Karzai has greater legitimacy and a stronger mandate than the taliban ever did.
"Besides if your so concerned about free and fair elections I suggest you start writing letters of complaint to your own gov for interfering in the democratic process all over the world most notably south America, do I need to mention Chile, Bolivia,Venezuela, etc etc the list is endless the involvement of the U.S criminal."
Kasrkin, this is a rant.
Irrelevant, C.O. Afghanistan is the discussed issue here. Can you stay on topic please?
"You really expect us to buy this bull?"
Evidently you can't count. If so, how would you know one way or another?
"The Taliban were in power for a number of years,not once did we here [sic] any of these horror stories..."
You weren't listening-
Here's the Human Rights Watch from November of 1998-
Afghanistan: The Massacre In Mazur-I-Sharif- HRW
and again-
Afghanistan: Massacres of Hazaras In Afghanistan- HRW February 2001
Something tells me you'll know all about any N.A. atrocities. I'm happy to help on the other side of the coin. Do you need more as I've only scratched the surface of the taliban's particular benevolence?
"Do any of the criems [sic] perpetrated by the U.S gov ever matter to you? I think not."
Are any relevant to this discussion about good and bad taliban?
"I don't believe these figures at all..."
And you offer...?
"U.S bombing results in far more civilian deaths..."
Not according to either the U.N. or HRW.
"...the fact remains that any casualties that might occur as a result of Taliban resistance are unavoidable..."
Intentionally targeting civilians is entirely avoidable.
"...and there would never be any need if it were not for the occupation in the first place."
There's never any "need" to intentionally target civilians. There is no "occupation". Forty nations are in Afghanistan by invitation of the elected afghan government and operating under a U.N. mandate. This mission has broad international support.
"The U.S occupation is the sole reason for people getting blown up in Afghanistan."
A childish comment.
"You know what you can do with you BS organisations and your bollo**s figures don't ya? Yes that's right, where the sun doesn't shine."
Another childish comment. You offer nothing whatsoever of substance in retort.
"No, and that's just your BS that not even the other occupying nations believe."
Actually, those nations see for themselves where attacks are made but no legitimate military target exists. Self evident in too many cases whom were the intended targets. Certainly, the acid disfigurements weren't collateral to attacks on military personnel. I imagine even you can understand that much. Beyond that, there are countless documented cases of targeted attacks and use of human shields.
"The fact is your all right with the millions killed over the past few years by your country all in the name of democracy and freedom, that doesn't matter one bit to you does it?"
"The fact is" you have no facts. "Millions killed over the past few years by your country [America]..."? Not even Lancet went that far. Please provide your links to such unusual claims- if you can. About 20,000 or so have died to date in this conflict. Most by the taliban and a far cry at any rate from either the Afghan civil war or the Afghan-Soviet war.
NATO/ISAF/America have been immensely careful by comparison. In fact, there is no comparison with Afghanistan's recent past when stripping out those killed by the taliban and viewing only those killed by ISAF/America.
"The Taliban do not and have never committed any such crimes,the US however do it as a matter of routine."
Uh huh. Sure.
"Don't tell us what is and what isn't acceptable in our lands,just who the hell do you think you are, the policeman of the world or something?"
You aren't acceptable. Your archaic, brutal vision isn't acceptable. Your cowardly attacks on civilians aren't acceptable. For all those reasons (and more) we wish to kill men like yourself.
Do you object to such? If so, I wish that you'd find the courage of your convictions and march to Afghanistan with a weapon in hand. Can you do so?
That would be helpful to everybody concerned, I believe, and would please me greatly. I'll look forward to your posts as never before if so.