A fantasy Thread.

[scorpionx]

Why not patrol in mediterranean against israeli blockade to Ghaza

To be honest oil rich basins should be the priority for these two energy starved nations rather than being entangled in some other's war.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

To be honest oil rich basins should be the priority for these two energy starved nations rather than being entangled in some other's war.

We will be a power n mean force n we will show others who is the Boss.

 

[scorpionx]

We will be a power n mean force n we will show others who is the Boss.

I look into other aspects.Both the countries could have cut their defense budgets to the minimal,focusing further more on economic reforms as well as human development to give China the toughest competition she has ever faced.But it's all about fantasy

 

[Umair Nawaz]

I look into other aspects.Both the countries could have cut their defense budgets to the minimal,focusing further more on economic reforms as well as human development to give China the toughest competition she has ever faced.But it's all about fantasy

If u will be in alliance with us then we will make u n China friends. Because they r in our region n will always be here so no more animosities with regional countries like what the westerns do n will make u Focus on Real enemies ie west.

 

[scorpionx]

If u will be in alliance with us then we will make u n China friends. Because they r in our region n will always be here so no more animosities with regional countries like what the westerns do n will make u Focus on Real enemies ie west.

Animosity against China? Not that I intended to mean.When both India and Pakistan will be able to make their own region much peaceful with no bloody poking each other and will focus entirely on economic and human development we can reach where China is today. And once we reach that level perhaps the west will look to us with much more respect than they have done so far.

 

[OrionHunter]

We can start with a joint patrolling of SCS by INS Zardari and PNS Kalmadi

Now that was epic!!

Indo-Pak defence cooperation would be able to produce stuff such as....

Yep! Make love, not war!!

 

[Parul]

Now that was epic!!

Indo-Pak defence cooperation would be able to produce stuff such as....

Yep! Make love, not war!!

LMAO

 

[That Guy]

Well, India and Pakistan would probably denuclearize the border. They'd go on joint ventures to build advanced drones and fighters. They'd also go on joint ventures to space and sat tech. India/Pakistan spacestation anyone?

 

[livingdead]

Well, India and Pakistan would probably denuclearize the border. They'd go on joint ventures to build advanced drones and fighters. They'd also go on joint ventures to space and sat tech. India/Pakistan spacestation anyone?

dont copy my ideas...

 

[That Guy]

dont copy my ideas...

May be you're from the future and copied my ideas? @.@

 

[jhungary]

If Pakistan and India become friend, then China will most probably turn on both of them but not both India and Pakistan be friend with China. That is one of the reason why China help Pakistan in the first place, to contain India.

India without China would still be a great threat to China as India is literally bordering China. None of Chinese enemy are actually border with her, with the sole exception of India.

If you put Pakistan and India together, China will be seriously threaten by it and that force would be the only force that can potentially defeat China and emerge as the Head of Nations in Asia. That is an Pakistan and India union mean to China.

So if you are asking what will happen if India and Pakistan become friend, then China will stop supporting any of those 2

Hence, no nuke (Nuke was up because of the India and Pakistani situation), no JF-17 (No Chinese cooperation) and no nuke sub.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

If Pakistan and India become friend, then China will most probably turn on both of them but not both India and Pakistan be friend with China. That is one of the reason why China help Pakistan in the first place, to contain India.

India without China would still be a great threat to China as India is literally bordering China. None of Chinese enemy are actually border with her, with the sole exception of India.

If you put Pakistan and India together, China will be seriously threaten by it and that force would be the only force that can potentially defeat China and emerge as the Head of Nations in Asia. That is an Pakistan and India union mean to China.

So if you are asking what will happen if India and Pakistan become friend, then China will stop supporting any of those 2

Hence, no nuke (Nuke was up because of the India and Pakistani situation), no JF-17 (No Chinese cooperation) and no nuke sub.

I dont think China will really care it was she who is pressuring us to make good relations with regional countries and focus on real enemies, the outsiders ie America n Co.

China has also vastly improved their relations with Indians.

U need to understand that Chinese think about Future lets say about 100 years after to his day and we Pak n India dont think beyond 40-50 years.

 

[jhungary]

I dont think China will really care it was she who is pressuring us to make good relations with regional countries and focus on real enemies, the outsiders ie America n Co.

China has also vastly improved their relations with Indians.

U need to understand that Chinese think about Future lets say about 100 years after to his day and we Pak n India dont think beyond 40-50 years.

well, you guys always say Things are not like it seems in the west, but somehow you guys manage to overlook people are doing the same for you in the East.

If what you are saying is true, then China and India would also exist a defence ties between them, but the truth is, no.

What China essentially doing to Pakistan is what they were doing to North Korea in Korean War, setting up buffers so they don't need to worry about the Indian in the West, same thing the pop up the NK regime so that they don't need to worry about American and South Korean in the east and how many time did the Chinese say they want the two Korea to be reunited.........

 

[Keshav Murali]

@Umair Nawaz,

1. Space: Pakistan is lagging behind ISRO at an incredible pace. We could put hundreds of your satellites for dirt cheap rates into space with PSLV.

2. Air Force: Technologies of both side can be analyzed and we can do JV on Light Fighters, transport aircraft and later stealth jets.

Electronics is a touchy subject, India got ToT for Polish radars back in '01 and we have developed multitudes of new ones and AESA radar is under development, Pakistan can help in refining the AESA and also help in quality control and aid production.

3. Army:

My forte. Currently, India has better base composite armour and Pakistan has access to better ERA while India now has NERA. We could combine both our ERA technologies to create SLERA(Self-Limiting ERA, combination of ERA and NERA which is more effective than ERA but not as much as NERA) or internal ERA (Sandwich ERA/SLERA with Composite and NERA plates, penetration becomes tough)

Tank electronics, Bharat Electronics has gained lots of experience right now by working with Elbit, we can always do our bit, Pakistan can make critical components of tanks.

For future tanks, unmanned turrets will be used to save weight. But autoloader becomes necessary. Just think, Unmanned turret for Indian FMBT is under development, Pakistan can make solid state compact autoloader with high capacity for single piece rounds. India can make single piece ammunition and Combustible cartridge cases, Pakistan can adapt these technologies to their needs and start making new rounds.

Pakistan is ahead in gun technology, smoothbore in general, we have experience in fully making guns for tanks, we mix these together and make a 140 mm smoothbore gun and ARDE can be used to develop ETC technology.

Tanks with unmanned turrets don't need armour anywhere on the turret, saving upto 15 tons weight or more! (on Western type hull design with western hull, on Soviet weight savings of upto 8-10 tons, on Chinese it is 10-12 I think)

Result? A 60 ton tank with ~1200 mm armour in front, ~750 in the side, ~250 on the roof, ~450-500 on the rear (LOS Thickness) with APFSDS with penetration in excess of 950 mm! Not to mention the hydropneumatic suspension India has perfected along with a Ukrainian 6TD-3 or Russian modified A-85-3 engine with 1500 HP and blow off panels and APS, APU and all the goodies.


Utopia.

 

[DRaisinHerald]

The united nation will be called Pakistan, of course.