A brilliant half an hour long interview summing up India.

[nahtanbob]

This guy (Aakar Patel) lays waste to India's democracy, judiciary, secularism. He also sums up shallow Ideology of Hindutva in a few sentences. I really was shocked that so called biggest democracy doesn't have freedom of religion, you need Government's consent to change religions. One of the primary promoters of Islamophobia in India are its banana courts... A lot of other revelations in a short time.

Tell us the last time followers of Islam allowed a Muslim to renounce his/her own religion

you will bait these innocent Pakistanis into discussing our human rights record and then make us look bad when we will shed tears for Kashmirs and Palestinians. why you insist on inciting rage in us humane Pakistanis.
if you do care for Pakistani minorities specially the most targeted and persecuted ones in the name of peaceful religion, Sahbah RA or Prophet Muhammad PBUH's family RA and finality etc then please don't bring up examples of those minority groups that have been already declared Infidels and who will be declared infidels if LeJ and Daesh has its way.
yes I am talking about normal Pakistani folks getting along their lives but who have misfortune of being born in the wrong sect or faith and have faced harassment, bulling, ridicule and violence from childhood to their adult age.

dont feel so special about it because when we dont have an Ahmedi, Shia, Christian or Hindu to hate, loath or bully then we kill our own and automatically get declared Ghazi. there is nothing special about Pakistan. Muslims still remain the biggest killers of other Muslims they found lesser Muslims or Heretics in the entire Islamic history,
dont single out us poor Pakistanis.

I am not picking on anyone. I always thought Pakistanis considered themselves special

 

[lonelyman]

Ok so its clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Dalits and lower caste Hindus are routinely beaten and killed for going to the wrong temple or even touching/going near someone's food. Pakistan does not have that. Therefore, lower caste hindus are more free in Pakisan than India.

Ahmadis and Christians are perfectly fine in Pakistan, they can practice their religion openly. Pakistan just had a huge Christmas celebration and Hindus celebrate Diwali openly routinely.

Pakistan doesn't need to reconcile with the "West". In the "West" there's a schism between family values and regressive progressivism. The type where adults give hormone blockers to children.

exactly, that’s why Dalits convert to Islam

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Why can't we have a proper discussion here?


No they can't, especially not Ahmadis. According to 298-B and 298-C of PPC, Ahmadis are not allowed to preach or practice their religion, or they face 3 years rigorous imprisonment.

Read about a Christian named Zafar Bhatti who has been imprisoned since 2012 on false charge of blasphemy without a shred of evidence. The court decided to sentence him to life imprisonment instead of death because of the lack of evidence, rather than simply release him. That's Pakistani justice for you!

ZAFAR BHATTI – Church In Chains – Ireland :: An Irish voice for suffering, persecuted Christians Worldwide

Ahmedis are allowed to call them Ahmedis not Muslims... they are free to practice their religion but not interfere in Islam

I see, you want a private conversation because a public one will be shut down real fast on PDF. We all know you have to walk on eggshells here to avoid a lengthy ban. Sadly, that's the typical Pakistani mentality, they would rather silence and censor than face the music:

Lmao you found CowSwami joker to present yourself? Who is blaming ISI for stopping the interview when his time finished ?

 

[newb3e]

Why can't we have a proper discussion here?


No they can't, especially not Ahmadis. According to 298-B and 298-C of PPC, Ahmadis are not allowed to preach or practice their religion, or they face 3 years rigorous imprisonment.

Read about a Christian named Zafar Bhatti who has been imprisoned since 2012 on false charge of blasphemy without a shred of evidence. The court decided to sentence him to life imprisonment instead of death because of the lack of evidence, rather than simply release him. That's Pakistani justice for you!

ZAFAR BHATTI – Church In Chains – Ireland :: An Irish voice for suffering, persecuted Christians Worldwide

Hello urine boy disguised as Pakistani!

 

[MuhammedAli]

You mean Chuhras? Yes, they're free to work in the sewers perpetually.
Admit it, Pakistan and India have the same social problems. Caste and religion based discrimination. Corruption and police brutality. Pakistan has no face to criticize India for ill treatment of Muslims, Dalits and others when in Pakistan Ahmadis and Christians are also mistreated and discriminated against. If India has laws against conversion, Pakistan has blasphemy laws. Pakistan needs to get its act together. Pakistan must reconcile with America and the West. Pakistan must seriously implement full human rights like in the West.

Has long as youre Muslim certain aspects will not change. Mushrikeen are Najs ... Allah literally says this in Quran. They are banned from mosques. Not bodily Najs but theologically Najs. And as a form of protest for polytheism Muslims are instructed to disassociate from Mushrikeen. Not to eat what they cook or engage is any cordial friendly relationship. Object of this protest/boycot is to create incentive for them to become Muslim. Where they can be part of Ummah and enjoy a warm cosy loving embrace of their brethren in Islam. If we dont create that mild distinction and become all buddies and become one ... Like we are ... Then there is no reasin for them to bexome Muslims.

Ofcourse killing them. Forcing them. Or kidnapping women, or breaking their places of wirship is not allowed. Old ones can stay and repaired and as population grows maybe extension be allowed as well ... Maybe not because Hinduaim soesnt have communal prayers like Jummah or Eid so maybe no extension but they will be allowed to practice their religion freely. I mean the Hindus of Pakistan they are not immigrants and not dhimmi (conquered) people so they can enjoy all benefits of being Pakistani except which are restricted by Islam i. E. Spread promotion of Hinduism and building temples in places where arent any to begin with.

And this means Hindus and regons they live in should get same treatment as its muslim population does. Water. Roads jobs. Electric. Schooling. Has to be provided. And any other facility needed to live. Just because they are Hindu we are not suppose to ... O let them die in corner they are mushrik filth ... Or hes hindu and his daughter is delicious lets take her for Islam ... Any who did that and does this he will find his place in hell. Women of Hindus are protected as long as they have not fought in battle aganst Islamic army.

And in Jihad i mean a war motivated for religion to protect it or to defend islam of muslims from Hindus of India. We cannot make Hindus Sikhs Christian fight for us in battle. Allahs Messenger prohibited it. A Mushrik wanted to fight for him because he was sympathetic to cause of Islam and what Muhsriks did to Muslims ... And prophet told him i cannot alllow u to fight for us due to ur shirk. Jews can fight under banner of Islam. We as Muslims are tasked to protexct non muslim non-Dhimmi population and we have no xhoice. Dhimmis we can say ... Ok here is your tax we failed or we cant ... Non-Dhimmis non-muslims we cant ... We have to protect and try our best we have no other option. Or arm them suffiently to defend themselves.

 

[PradoTLC]

Sadly Pakistan is no better, if not worse

may be ...but at least we don;t lie infront of the world "as the largest democracy" or "tolerant society". etc

 

[Cherub786]

may be ...but at least we don;t lie infront of the world "as the largest democracy" or "tolerant society". etc

India isn't a tolerant society by any means, but surely it is a functioning democracy, that much can't be denied. As bad as India might be, as a democracy it is a million times superior to one party state, authoritarian China.

And what about Pakistan. The opposition claims the PTI rigged the elections in 2018. The same PTI accused PMLN of rigging elections in 2013. So Pakistan's last two elections were either both rigged or at least one of those elections were rigged.

 

[MuhammedAli]

India isn't a tolerant society by any means, but surely it is a functioning democracy, that much can't be denied. As bad as India might be, as a democracy it is a million times superior to one party state, authoritarian China.

And what about Pakistan. The opposition claims the PTI rigged the elections in 2018. The same PTI accused PMLN of rigging elections in 2013. So Pakistan's last two elections were either both rigged or at least one of those elections were rigged.

Aaah youre follower of minor-Dajjal. Prophet in my Ummah there will be 32 dajjals and liars and there is no prophet after me.

 

[xuxu1457]

India's domestic problems are too complex and troublesome, and its international problems are all right, except for the long-term confrontation with Pakistan. Even China is keen to complete border talks with India and further develop relations.

India's domestic problems are too complex to be solved, and when Modi came to power, I felt that he could not solve them.

1. Corruption, widespread
2. The caste system in society
3. Low status of women
4. Great internal contradictions, religious contradictions and racial contradictions
5. There is no broad national language
6. Decentralization of power and difficulty in achieving central policies at the local level
7. Pollution, India is only 1/8 of China's manufacturing output.But the pollution is worse than China. If it is to catch up with China's output, pollution will soar to the sky.
8.Population Explosion，The population is growing too fast. A population with inadequate education and extremely inadequate employment will create many problems.

India has a lot of domestic problems,No profound social, land and institutional reforms have been carried out. It is hard to lead India forward for modi

 

[Cherub786]

Aaah youre follower of minor-Dajjal. Prophet in my Ummah there will be 32 dajjals and liars and there is no prophet after me.

He also said the Messiah will come and the Mahdi will come.

But since you raised the subject, let me ask, is Prophesy (Nubuwwah) a blessing or curse? If it is a blessing why has it ceased? So the best Ummah is deprived of a blessing that God blessed an inferior Ummah (Bani Israel) with in abundance? Consider this carefully, reflect on it deeply

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Ok so its clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Dalits and lower caste Hindus are routinely beaten and killed for going to the wrong temple or even touching/going near someone's food. Pakistan does not have that. Therefore, lower caste hindus are more free in Pakisan than India.

Ahmadis and Christians are perfectly fine in Pakistan, they can practice their religion openly. Pakistan just had a huge Christmas celebration and Hindus celebrate Diwali openly routinely.

Pakistan doesn't need to reconcile with the "West". In the "West" there's a schism between family values and regressive progressivism. The type where adults give hormone blockers to children.

Your argument becomes irrelevant when the proportion is considered.. in pakistan minority is hardly 2% of 230 million ..in india its staggering 30% of its 1.4 billion population

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Your argument becomes irrelevant when the proportion is considered.. in pakistan minority is hardly 2% of 230 million ..in india its staggering 30% of its 1.4 billion population

Dalit Lives Matter

 

[MuhammedAli]

He also said the Messiah will come and the Mahdi will come.

But since you raised the subject, let me ask, is Prophesy (Nubuwwah) a blessing or curse? If it is a blessing why has it ceased? So the best Ummah is deprived of a blessing that God blessed an inferior Ummah (Bani Israel) with in abundance? Consider this carefully, reflect on it deeply.

My full response can be read in the following - click ---->> here <<---- click.

Response which I wrote here has been moved to post linked above and I have removed insulting language except usage of al-Dajjal and al-Kazzab because thats what Prophet said regarding one who claims prophet-hood after him. I cannot abrogate what he legalized. Only what is from me can be mended.

 

[Cherub786]

And these titles dajjal and kazzab were given by prophet to peoole who ill claim prophethod

You didn't answer my question: Is Nubuwwah a blessing?

 

[I S I]

You mean Chuhras? Yes, they're free to work in the sewers perpetually.

How much they are paying you these days to clean the gutters?
And secondly, why are you not on your job right now?