A 2015 warning to Pakistan and Turkey by UAE taking shape in 2017.

[TacOps]

Hi,

@Khafee --- did you read this boy's post---

I am impressed with your input---. First it was @User who stated it in a 3 liner---and now it is you---who has simplified in a few words the crux of the issue---.

Indeed---our industry is military---that is what we have trained it to do---fight terrorism---with mega dollars---billions and billions of them---.

The americans sell their weapons---the indians sell their IT & computer guys---japanese sell their cars---and we cannot sell the resource and services that we have---ie---fighting terrorism---.

The issue that people are not understanding is---that it was our resource and the manner we took down the terrorists---step by a stair step---methodically with surety---.

That is what the GCC was looking for---not just an army that could go in and kill them all---but someone who could systematically remove the problem and then address the issues as well.

I really think that if I was in front of the TV camera---with this input from you and @User---and banged it it time after time into the minds of the public---we would have seen a different result.

The true failure was that there was not a single person with the right tactical information to project the cause of the GCC---.

And for that---I blame the GCC more than Pakistan---their arrogance got the better of them---.

The GCC needs to learn that if you want to send someone to die for you---you need to romance them a little better---cajole them---reward them---show them love and affection---let them know that you would be there for their loved ones left behind if you died for the cause---.

I personally would like to know---how many SHIA parliamentarians are in the pakistani national assembly---what is their proportion in relation to the overall population---and how they voted.

And then I put an equal blame on pakistan's military and politicians---for not grabbing onto the moment---it was the moment of true salvation for pakistan's economy and defense---.

Thanks.

Unfortunately we are an emotional nation. Anyway, what troubles me more is that diplomacy and foreign relations are almost non existent since the last government. The damage was done but since then, haven't seen any real efforts to patch things up. Mostly silence. No wonder our neighbour has started an isolation drive. They probably see foreign relations as the biggest flaw in our armor at the moment.

 

[Khafee]

Nothing is proved yet if they are citizen of these countries. ... chalooo Abdullah Masood is also came from Iran.... what else left now... Now the leader of North Waziristan tribe is also came from Iran..... wait in next few days Osama Bin Laden came from Iran too and all 19 hijackers of 911 came from Iran too ........ K Yadev was arrested in Pakistan on fake ID of Indian govt under disguise of navel contractor, then his second in command also arrested by Iranian govt ....


Sir ji kia hogayaa.............. Shia polling both is on Mars , where they go and vote ...


Due to CPEC Pakistan investment in GCC countries project is getting dried . Like in year 2016 Pakistani investment in GCC real estate reduce to 40 percent, due to CPEC. Lots of land acquisition is going on . Hundreds of new small projects and joint venture been sign by Pakistani and Chinese investor. So , slowly all black money coming home.

You are clutching at straws.

To the rest of your wishful thinking, best of luck.

I don't particularly like to write long worded expose, but since pragmatism and practicalism arrogantly challenge veiled truth, I have to write it:

Outer eye sees the outside, the periphery, but barely the reality, that which has not yet occurred, for that, one needs an inner eye.

To come to the truth which is behind the veil one has to extricate him/herself from the prism of one’s own biases, experiences, and dislikes, only then there is a chance the truth will reveal itself.

Pakistan is the spiritual reflection of Madina Tayyaba. Nothing could come near to the Madina of 1438 years before where The Prince of Messengers walked surrounded by the holy ones. So, comparison was not made to that Madina. Comparison was made to the pattern of emergence and the roles, one is played, one yet to be!

There was a time when Makkans and Medinites worshipped stones, then they became monotheists and followed the Messenger. Pakistan came into being on the pattern of Madina. Messenger and Companions migrated to Madina and formed the first Monotheistic State rejecting hubal, laat, and manat. Muslims of India, whoever could manage, similarly migrated to Pakistan (The Land of Pure) rejecting the hubal, laat, manaat of nationalism, the second Monotheistic State had emerged 1366 years after the first Monotheistic State of Madina Tayyaba, ‘tis the night of 27th of Ramadhan.

Wasn’t place of Kaaba there, even when the Peninsula was separated from the African mass 30 million years ago? It was there in the jagged, black, stony lands, only its rights were not designated, not for a very long time. And when the rights were given, for a time it remained crammed by idols of every shape and color, but it was still Kaaba! Wasn’t it? Please deny it!!

People say, Muslims of Pakistan are corrupt, there is corruption, but filth would not remain forever, it will be washed way same way the filth of idolatry was washed away in the Arabian Peninsula 1366 years ago.

If one does not want to believe in that, please do so! We will see!! Some believe only after things happen, some don’t even believe after it had!

And even if We had sent down to you, a written scripture on a page and they touched it with their hands, the disbelievers would say, "This is not but obvious magic."
Al An-Aam: Aayah 6.

Typical Mullah Rhetoric, twisting things to suit your own agenda. The fact is that corruption has been going from bad to worse. Please prove me otherwise, will be more than happy to be proven wrong.

Hi,

Sir---If palkistan had figured out the changes coming in the U S---( which I very much doubt )---they would have comitted themsleves in Yemen---.

I can guarantee you that pak military had not anticipated these changes 2 years ago---because everything that they did---contradicted that---.

If the attack on Iran was anticipated by pakistan---then why make create animosity out of saudia and Emirates---the best thing to have done would be to form alliance to subdue Iran backed terrorists in Yemen---.

That would be the prudent thing to do.

By this time---pak military wing---would have been 10 times stronger with tier 1 fighter aircraft and other machines---and why would the U S attack pakistan when pakistan was fighting against irani terrorists---.

That is where the pak screwed up.

Check this out:

"The sanctions announced on Friday targeted on a dozen companies and 13 individuals, including Chinese firms suspected of supplying parts used in Iran’s missile development programme.
The measures were invoked in response to a January missile test by Iran and the country’s support for Houthi rebels in Yemen."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/03/trump-administration-iran-sanctions

Houthi commander admits: Iran training us

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...thi-confessions-Iran-trains-our-militias.html

Can you see where this is going?

Regards

Arab blame Iran for all troubles .............. as usual , nothing new. Taliban massacre thousands of Pakistani due to their ideology .... My own close family members are victim of this terrorism ....when arab talk Taliban....it literally shock me .. how easily they disown these Taliban bastard. And now disowning there ISIS monster..... what's wrong with these people ....why lie and twisting the truth .... Yesterday ISPR told in press conference claim that death toll cross 70,000 due to terrorist attacks and huge casualties in FATA region .....
Our nation is fooled by others , but very easily .

Arabs did not give Kulbhushan Yadav a free hand to operate from Iran.
TTP Mullah Mansoor was on his way back from Iran, not GCC.
Baba Ladla and Uzair Baloch both had Iranian nationality.

You can deny all you want, but the world can see that Iran is a terrorism exporter, and it's allies Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen are ............................

Stop thinking with your sectarian mind, and open your eyes.

 

[BHarwana]

 

[H!TchHiker]

LOL how many time you will post this bhaibas krdo bas..I can share video i have it personally in my mobile if you need ..There was a song known as "Jai HO" in background at that night

 

[BHarwana]

LOL how many time you will post this bhaibas krdo bas..I can share video i have it personally in my mobile if you need ..There was a song known as "Jai HO" in background at that night

No need the picture is on every heart now.

 

[Khafee]

LOL how many time you will post this bhaibas krdo bas..I can share video i have it personally in my mobile if you need ..There was a song known as "Jai HO" in background at that night

He even started a thread on how the GCC was supporting Trumps ban on Muslim countries. You should have seen his reponse when I quoted the Pakistani Foreign Office spokesman, saying the same thing - "Their internal matter."

He is on a specific anti-GCC / Pro-Iran agenda.

This whole thread is based on BS, see my earlier response to Iran lover on opening this ridiculous thread:

1) What is the OP based on?
a) A dawn news article about the UAE Jr. foreign Ministers emotional statement.
b) Middle East Eye's report which twists a Palestinan Lawmakers support for Gulen into UAE support conveniently forgetting that the UAE not only has a good business relationship, but an excellent relationship with the Turkish Military and Defence Industry.
c) An Indian Newspaper's biased report. When was the last time a Pakistani on PDF took Indian media seriously? http://www.firstpost.com/politics/w...tegic-partnership-leave-pakistan-2396814.html

https://defence.pk/threads/a-2015-warning-to-pakistan-and-turkey-by-uae-taking-shape-in-2017.475893/page-11#post-9174132

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

If Pakistan hod gone in Yemen, this scenario would have been avoided...Our relations got damaged when Pakistan refused to join in Yemen...Iran is responsible for this mess as well...

 

[BHarwana]

If Pakistan hod gone in Yemen, this scenario would have been avoided...Our relations got damaged when Pakistan refused to join in Yemen...Iran is responsible for this mess as well...

Pakistan not going to Yemen was the decision of the Public. Remember assembly voted

 

[H!TchHiker]

No need the picture is on every heart now.

Look you know where the problem pop up in your arguments when you say we need to sit in Iran lap in order to irk GCC.Why ? Is iran saint ? or we pakistanis are incapable to handle this..You point out to people that don't bring Iran and in very next comment you said we should go for Iran. Iran is more close to India if we apply the same logic.
Do you trust your Army chief ? When ISPR issue statement that we talked about Yadhav or Iranian president who deny it ?

 

[dilpakistani]

Well i think we are making bigger deal outta it than we should. UAE's tilt towards India is not that new and not necessarily anti Pakistan. We have to remember here that Pakistan no matter considered it's national interest over arab brotherhood... they are allowed to do the same. As for the Iran love... I think Pakistanis are prodominantly in favor of Arabs than Iran. They have stood with us in our all thick an thin....

 

[H!TchHiker]

He even started a thread on how the GCC was supporting Trumps ban on Muslim countries. You should have seen his reponse when I quoted the Pakistani Foreign Office spokesman, saying the same thing - "Their internal matter."

He is on a specific anti-GCC / Pro-Iran agenda.

This whole thread is based on BS, see my earlier response to Iran lover on opening this ridiculous thread:

1) What is the OP based on?
a) A dawn news article about the UAE Jr. foreign Ministers emotional statement.
b) Middle East Eye's report which twists a Palestinan Lawmakers support for Gulen into UAE support conveniently forgetting that the UAE not only has a good business relationship, but an excellent relationship with the Turkish Military and Defence Industry.
c) An Indian Newspaper's biased report. When was the last time a Pakistani on PDF took Indian media seriously? http://www.firstpost.com/politics/w...tegic-partnership-leave-pakistan-2396814.html

https://defence.pk/threads/a-2015-warning-to-pakistan-and-turkey-by-uae-taking-shape-in-2017.475893/page-11#post-9174132

The problem is when somebody wear sectarian glasses he will see what he wishes to see.My only concern with these people are is iran not enough close to India ? Was it not Iran who betray kashmir cause in OIC when it was going to put forward in UN for sanctions against India.. The only time whole OIC gang up against India ..We really lost kashmir cause at that day
They have no answer

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Pakistan not going to Yemen was the decision of the Public. Remember assembly voted

Yes...You are right. But that doesn't change the fact about decision of being worst of its kind..We could have taken other way but.....

 

[BHarwana]

The problem is when somebody wear sectarian glasses he will see what he wishes to see.My only concern with these people are is iran not enough close to India ? Was it not Iran who betray kashmir cause in OIC when it was going to put forward in UN for sanctions against India.. The only time whole OIC gang up against India ..We really lost kashmir cause at that day
They have no answer

Who said Iran was a friend? If Iran goes against Pakistani interests will it hurt no but UAE was a friend they back stabbed us. They have their airline industry because of us. They enjoyed security with out spending on defense because of us and in a single day they ruin a relation. The day Kashmir was in a Black day UAE was marching with Indians. It was a message to Pakistan from UAE and we have got it. Like India reached our friend UAE we should reach it's friend Iran.

Yes...You are right. But that doesn't change the fact about decision of being worst of its kind..We could have taken other way but.....

Why should have we taken the other way Muslims don't Kill Muslims. Spit of UAE or any other country that wants to kill Muslims. We are not the servants of these Arabs. They are are our servants we are the military power they should obey Pakistan or suffer.

 

[Khafee]

Who said Iran was a friend? If Iran goes against Pakistani interests will it hurt no but UAE was a friend they back stabbed us. They have their airline industry because of us. They enjoyed security with out spending on defense because of us and in a single day they ruin a relation. The day Kashmir was in a Black day UAE was marching with Indians. It was a message to Pakistan from UAE and we have got it. Like India reached our friend UAE we should reach it's friend Iran.


Why should have we taken the other way Muslims don't Kill Muslims. Spit of UAE or any other country that wants to kill Muslims. We are not the servants of these Arabs. They are are our servants we are the military power they should obey Pakistan or suffer.

Wow the Iran lovers delusions are high!

 

[BHarwana]

Wow the Iran lovers delusions are high!

You just ran ran out of argument.