50 Lakh Jats From 13 States To Join Protest At Jantar Mantar

[saurav jha]

I never did anything to your fantasy ancestors. Me and my future children won't pay for your made up stories to get Quote privileges.

You want subsidy have it on your bank accounts but if you want admission and jobs then fucking do the hard work and study like everyone else.

That was rude buddy. It was just a healthy debate. Since you believe it's all made up stories no point in discussing it further. It was nice talking to you. Bye and take care.

 

[Sam.]

That was rude buddy. It was just a healthy debate. Since you believe it's all made up stories no point in discussing it further. It was nice talking to you. Bye and take care.

Thousand of missed opportunity made us ruthless and angry. Anyway we are not known to be nice but rather blunt people.

Have a nice life too.

 

[Sky lord]

I am for reservations for ST's and some sections of SC's. Reservations should be stopped for those who are Grade 1 officers or those who earn more than enough.

I believe there is an argument to be made for reservations but it should not be across the board caste based reservations.

You need some kind of point system, you get points for your exam results, your caste (sc and st gets more points), your economic background ( poor gets more points than middle class - you will need to submit your tax returns - or prove your lack of income - this can encourage people to pay tax ) , maybe even for gender ( girls get more points - ok this could be controversial) .

When you add up all the " social" points then add that to your exam results and use that to get into university or jobs. This way the " creamy" rich layer of low caste will be at the same or lower level as poorer sections of high caste. That seems fair enough.

This way you help out those who come from disadvantaged communities but on an individual bases not a mass blunt instrument.

What do you think of the idea? I wonder if anyone sitting in government is reading this?

Heellooo!

 

[Śakra]

I never did anything to your fantasy ancestors. Me and my future children won't pay for your made up stories to get Quote privileges.

You want subsidy have it on your bank accounts but if you want admission and jobs then fucking do the hard work and study like everyone else.



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You sound like a white supremacist claiming blacks should get over slavery. Shame on you.

 

[Sam.]

I believe there is an argument to be made for reservations but it should not be across the board caste based reservations.

You need some kind of point system, you get points for your exam results, your caste (sc and st gets more points), your economic background ( poor gets more points than middle class - you will need to submit your tax returns - or prove your lack of income - this can encourage people to pay tax ) , maybe even for gender ( girls get more points - ok this could be controversial) .

When you add up all the " social" points then add that to your exam results and use that to get into university or jobs. This way the " creamy" rich layer of low caste will be at the same or lower level as poorer sections of high caste. That seems fair enough.

This way you help out those who come from disadvantaged communities but on an individual bases not a mass blunt instrument.

What do you think of the idea? I wonder if anyone sitting in government is reading this?

Heellooo!

I am against any type of reservation ,however if some of us feel injustice was done in past then give them subsidy money directly to bank account linked with Aadhar card.

They can get good education or jobs like everyone else but like everyone else with hard work. No freebies for anyone who claims to be victim of the past which no one saws.

What if we claim now we have been victim for the last 70 years so another Quota for us in future?

Democracy means equal opportunity not Quota privileges. Why i have to get 90% marks where some goof will get 50 % marks and will get better college and job.

It also make government institutions like DRDO , HAL and others less efficient.

 

[Upagrah]

I wonder if the Jats realise that no central or state government can accommodate them via reservations .The SC had set a limit to the percentage which can avail of reservations which means the only other avenue available is to accommodate them in the OBC / BC / MBC list . Whether any government , state or central can afford to do it & offend the beneficiaries in that list & having crossed that hurdle whether such s move would survive SC scrutiny is debatable .

In the interim what it'd do is put more pressure on the incumbent administrations at the center & in the States but will also raise questions on whether reservations can continue in perpetuity .

After all , Nitish Kumar & his ally the convict went to town highlighting Mohan Bhagwat's statement calling for a re look at the whole gamut of reservations , selling the idea that the BJP was planning to scrap reservations , as if reservations is an entitlement , a birthright as it were .

While this entire affair will be messy , what with forward cadres demanding their share of the pie ,( Kammas in AP , Patel's in Gujarat, Gujjars in Rajasthan & now the Jats) , it serves as a warning to all those politicians who seek to derive mileage from the politics of reservations.

If Yadavs and Maratha's can get reservation then nothing wrong in Jats and Patels and Rajputs getting reservations too.

The only way to get rid of the cast based reservation is to include more and more castes into the reservation structure till finally it makes no sense any more and nobody will object to it getting dismantled.

I advocate this as a more practical approach to making a equitable society.

If everybody can't be high caste then let everybody become low caste and then eliminate this british imposed caste system.

That seems to be the way forward.

 

[Indiran Chandiran]

If Yadavs and Maratha's can get reservation then nothing wrong in Jats and Patels and Rajputs getting reservations too.

The only way to get rid of the cast based reservation is to include more and more castes into the reservation structure till finally it makes no sense any more and nobody will object to it getting dismantled.

I advocate this as a more practical approach to making a equitable society.

If everybody can't be high caste then let everybody become low caste and then eliminate this british imposed caste system.

That seems to be the way forward.

It's not going to happen.Though I endorse your suggestion .

 

[Kathin_Singh]

This Jat reservation is a Haryana Jat movement. Jats of UP and Rajasthan are already in OBC.

And on what basis Haryana Jats seeks reservations? National commision of Backward castes has refused to extend reservation to Haryana Jats as they are prosperous and educated. Supreme court has already turn down Jats reservation.

 

[Upagrah]

It's not going to happen.Though I endorse your suggestion .

If you study the steady inclusion of more and more casts into the "reserved" status since its inceptions, you will find that it is already happening. From North to south. Thevar has become OBC and so have Lingayats. Ganjam Reddy's have become "OBC", etc.

That is the inevitable end to this strange tale of reverse discrimination.

This Jat reservation is a Haryana Jat movement. Jats of UP and Rajasthan are already in OBC.

And on what basis Haryana Jats seeks reservations? National commision of Backward castes has refused to extend reservation to Haryana Jats as they are prosperous and educated. Supreme court has already turn down Jats reservation.

You are seeking logic in a system that is build on the principle of Appeasement. You are barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Sam.]

If Yadavs and Maratha's can get reservation then nothing wrong in Jats and Patels and Rajputs getting reservations too.

The only way to get rid of the cast based reservation is to include more and more castes into the reservation structure till finally it makes no sense any more and nobody will object to it getting dismantled.

I advocate this as a more practical approach to making a equitable society.

If everybody can't be high caste then let everybody become low caste and then eliminate this british imposed caste system.

That seems to be the way forward.

You described more proficiently what i wanted to say.

If you study the steady inclusion of more and more casts into the "reserved" status since its inceptions, you will find that it is already happening. From North to south. Thevar has become OBC and so have Lingayats. Ganjam Reddy's have become "OBC", etc.

That is the inevitable end to this strange tale of reverse discrimination.



You are seeking logic in a system that is build on the principle of Appeasement. You are barking up the wrong tree.

Quota privileges will go down either by demolishing it or everyone entering it.

Incorrect.Only the Jats of Dholpur enjoy OBC status.The Jats of UP enjoy no such status .

They will ,only question is when and how.

 

[Upagrah]

You described more proficiently what i wanted to say.
Quota privileges will go down either by demolishing it or everyone entering it.
They will ,only question is when and how.

The monster of reservation cannot be killed from the outside. It HAS to be killed from within.

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

So who the JAT will be voting in UP election?

 

[friendly_troll96]

what is jantar mantar?
sounds like a magic spell

 

[Sam.]

The monster of reservation cannot be killed from the outside. It HAS to be killed from within.

I understand and that's why we demand it.

So who the JAT will be voting in UP election?

2/3 Ajit Singh & 1/3 BJP. But seriously nobody can predict what's gonna happen, only KHAP knows.

what is jantar mantar?
sounds like a magic spell

Political ground in Delhi reserved for protests.

 

[patman]

is a jat a cast? more vote-bank politics