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5 Turkish Weapons of War Russia Should Fear

Then again, there were hardly countries superior to them ( esp. USA ) so how else could it have gone? ;)

Agreed to the rest of your post & prior one,
and good day all, Tay.

P.S.


You know man : folks that bug you until you blow off … :angel:
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With Turkish Som missiles with new local engine, can hit 1500km. in 2012, it was mentioned that, in 2 years, Turkey will have the capability to hit 2500km with som. Basically, they most probably,already got the missile, but silent so far.. it is famous for Turkish army to announce technologies very late.. WHen there were a change for Turkey to go into war with Grece in 1999. Turkish army had secret talk with CHine and got ballistic missiles to hit 180 km with TOT. They announced it only after 9 years. Russian KKB is smarter than you computer warrior..


Turkey got 60-90 B61 nuclear warheads... Just recently, Turkish army technology company ASELSAN, was awarded 79 m$ to upgrade those missiles.. which also means, most probably Turkey got the codes but also promised not to develop nuclear weapon.. But, im sure there is a nuclear mind in Erdogans head. The deal with Japan also shows it.. after 2023..
LALE KEMAL - Turkey to upgrade US nuclear arsenal at İncirlik
LOL Turks are seriously discussing how they would strike Russian armed forces. However, they forget that their strength against Russia is based only on the support of NATO. So the first thing Turkey will do after any impact on their air or ground targets - run to complain to NATO, as it recently was - bite and hide like jackals.
 
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Bleda KurtdarcanBarın Kayaoğlu
November 26, 2015

Syria was a major source of tension between Turkey and Russia even before a Turkish F-16 shot down a Russian Su-24 on the Turkish-Syrian border on November 24. Since the start of the Syrian Civil War in early 2011, Russia and Iran have backed the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, while Turkey, along with Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United States, has supported anti-Assad rebels.

After Assad’s forces downed a Turkish RF-4 reconnaissance plane over the Mediterranean in June 2012, Ankara implemented new rules of engagement with dubious legal standing against Damascus. For the past three-and-a-half years, Turkey has brought down more than half a dozen Syrian fighter jets, helicopters and UAVs for allegedly violating its airspace.

The latest incident is a culmination of that tug-of-war and Turkey’s desire to help its clients in Syria. Following the arrival of the Russian air contingent on Syria’s Mediterranean coast in September 2015, one Russian aircraft briefly violated Turkish airspace, a Syrian MiG-29 locked on Turkish F-16s flying inside Turkey and the Turks shot down what is believed to be a Russian-made UAV within their territory on October 16.

During these episodes, Russian Air Force assets meant to show the Turks that their support for anti-Assad rebels was not welcome. For Turkey, putting pressure on Russian air operations in Syria was a way to reassure the rebel groups under its aegis to keep fighting the Assad regime.

Because of Turkey’s NATO membership and better access to the Syrian battle space, and Russia’s immense military superiority, an all-out war between the two sides is unlikely. Still, limited engagements similar to the November 24 incident are possible—especially after the Russian General Staff announced a more aggressive posture against the Turks. Turkey, however, enjoys impressive military assets that could make life difficult for Russia.

To that end, this article covers the five most dangerous Turkish weapon systems that should give Russia a moment of pause before it escalates tensions. Just like its forthcoming counterpart discussing the five Russian weapons that Turkey should fear, the article covers the weapons that Turks might use in a limited engagement in Syria and the eastern Mediterranean. As such, Russia’s ballistic missile capabilities or U.S. tactical nukes based in Turkey will not be part of the analysis—they are virtually useless in a limited engagement.

F-16 multirole fighter and AIM-120 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM)

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The Turkish Air Force (TuAF) has nearly 250 F-16 aircrafts in its inventory, thirty of which are of the Block 50+ type. Block 50+ is the latest variant of the F-16, a combat-proven fourth-generation multirole fighter. Turkey has produced (with a U.S. license) and operated different variants of the F-16 since the mid-1980s, giving the TuAF considerable skill and experience with the “Fighting Falcon” in every scenario possible.

The U.S.-made AIM-120 missile with which the Turks shot down the Russian Su-24 on Nov. 24 is a deadly partner to the F-16. With an operational range of nearly thirty nautical miles (fifty kilometers), the AIM-120 turns the F-16 into a serious threat against the highly trained and well-equipped Russian Air Force.

KORAL Ground-Based Jammer

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The KORAL transportable radar jammer system is the Turkish military’s latest addition to its electronic warfare capabilities. Designed by Turkey’s state-owned Aselsan Corporation, this electronic defense/electronic attack system is designed to jam and deceive conventional and complex types of hostile radar, and analyzes multiple target signals in a wide frequency range, automatically generating appropriate response thanks to its digital radio frequency memory (DRFM) capability. With an effective range in excess of ninety miles (about 150 kilometers), KORAL reportedly could jam and deceive any land, sea and airborne radar systems. This new system could deny situational awareness to the Russians, thicken their fog of war and blind their weapons systems that would otherwise pose a threat to the Turkish military.

Gür-class submarines

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Turkish Naval Forces possess four Gür-class submarines, which are considered one of the best diesel-electric submarines in the world. Based on the German firm HDW’s export-oriented Type 209 T2/1400 models, theGürs are armed with submarine-launched Harpoon anti-ship missiles (UGM-84), as well as the British-made Tigerfish and German-made DM2A4 heavy torpedoes. The Turkish submarines are also equipped with state-of-the-art detection and targeting systems, which turn these platforms into silent and deadly hunters that would threaten the Russian surface action group positioned in the eastern Mediterranean. Given the Syria-based Russian naval task force’s shortcomings in anti-submarine warfare (ASW), the Gür submarines give immense leverage to the Turkish side.

Ada-class stealth corvettes

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Turkey’s Ada-class stealth corvettes are another naval platform that present a lethal challenge to Russian surface action groups and supply ships operating in the Mediterranean. Designed and produced by Turkish personnel, Adas are equipped with 8 Harpoon Block II missiles, OtoMelara Super Rapid three-inch cannons and other armaments. These highly stealthy ships have extremely reduced radar, IR and acoustic signatures, and they are backed by a low probability of intercept (LPI) radar that could sneak up to Russian surface vessels and deliver a lethal blow.

SAT Naval Commandos

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SAT (Sualtı Taarruz Timleri/Underwater Assault Teams) are the Turkish Armed Forces' most elite special forces unit. Turkish SATs operate in every environment. They can infiltrate behind enemy lines from the air, land or sea to raid high-value targets, create diversions or attack port facilities and anchored ships. These combat divers are direct action units par excellence. Especially in a limited conflict, Turkish SATs would perform deadly clandestine operations against Syrian coastal infrastructure and Russian vessels operating in the Mediterranean.

We hope that Turkey and Russia de-escalate tensions in Syria. A war, even one limited in scope, would be too hurtful to both sides. But if Ankara and Moscow were to take things to the next level, these five weapons would give the Turkish side some unique advantages.

Bleda Kurtdarcan is a lecturer at Galatasaray University School of Law in Istanbul, where he teaches public international law. He obtained his Ph.D. from Galatasaray University in 2014 and his LLM from Université Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne in 2005. He specializes in law of armed conflict, law of the sea, maritime security, and the privatization of military services.

Barın Kayaoğlu is an independent political analyst and consultant in Washington, D.C., where writes and comments for U.S. and international media outlets. Barın finished his doctorate in history at the University of Virginia in 2014, and he is currently turning his dissertation into a book, tentatively titled Loving and Hating America: U.S. Diplomacy, Modernization, and the Origins of Pro- and Anti-American Sentiment in Turkey and Iran. You can follow him on www.barinkayaoglu.com, Twitter(@barinkayaoglu), and Facebook (Barın Kayaoğlu).

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What about Altay and the Leapord? Better than anything Russia currently has.

Mate, We just love tough opponents, we were born for war, victory allways from Allah(God) no need fear from to lose BUT if we launch to war i think all world will be burn with us, just it is the matter :woot:

Allah hu Ekber, people of Pakistan will always be with Turkey.
 
The whole discussion and all the fear of war is somehow stupid there is potentially a path to war but normally not with this single move..

Syria Downed a similar old Turkish plane.. Nothing big happened...

Imagine why did we not down any modern jet? If that would be the case it would be more serious..

Also this shows how shitty our politics are we should arm syrian turks with anti tank weapons stinger and mortars etc
 
1.Turkey enjoys somewhat of a High Moral Ground here. Being an immediate neighbor from where rivers flow down south. And that should remind us of the imminent water crisis in that region. Syria was a province of Turkey - not very long ago. In fact the entire area was part of the Turkish Empire. Turkey is Muslim, Russia is not.
2. Let us not forget Turkey does posses nukes. Codes of some are with NATO/USA, but some are exclusively Turkey's. No one is sure about Turkey's delivery system - missiles and rockets. But Russia is not too far away. F-16s can carry/launch nukes. Would Pakistan not have sent them some missiles in the meantime?
3. A major factor here - and this needs to be seen as a weapon in the hands of the Turks, is that she is a NATO nation.
Turkey is not even given Patriot, you think they were given Nukes???
 
Your zeal is compelling but I am sorry. TURKEY do not have nukes and nukes WILL NOT be used in almost 100% probability even in case of a limited war.

Jeez !! Whats up with the brain dead idiots in the thread? Can't we have some realistic discussion for once ?


Nope, Turkey does have nukes. That's for sure. And regarding using or not using, in this case will depend on Russia. If they heat up too much then of course this could lead to use of nukes by either or both. I don't find Putin quite sane. And Turks are not used to taking nonsense from nobody.

With Turkish Som missiles with new local engine, can hit 1500km. in 2012, it was mentioned that, in 2 years, Turkey will have the capability to hit 2500km with som. Basically, they most probably,already got the missile, but silent so far.. it is famous for Turkish army to announce technologies very late.. WHen there were a change for Turkey to go into war with Grece in 1999. Turkish army had secret talk with CHine and got ballistic missiles to hit 180 km with TOT. They announced it only after 9 years. Russian KKB is smarter than you computer warrior..

:enjoy:
... Just recently, Turkish army technology company ASELSAN, was awarded 79 m$ to upgrade those missiles.. which also means, most probably Turkey got the codes but also promised not to develop nuclear weapon.. But, im sure there is a nuclear mind in Erdogans head. The deal with Japan also shows it.. after 2023..
LALE KEMAL - Turkey to upgrade US nuclear arsenal at İncirlik


@ Providence
With Turkish Som missiles with new local engine, can hit 1500km. in 2012, it was mentioned that, in 2 years, Turkey will have the capability to hit 2500km with som. Basically, they most probably,already got the missile, but silent so far.. it is famous for Turkish army to announce technologies very late.. WHen there were a change for Turkey to go into war with Grece in 1999. Turkish army had secret talk with CHine and got ballistic missiles to hit 180 km with TOT. They announced it only after 9 years. Russian KKB is smarter than you computer warrior..


Turkey got 60-90 B61 nuclear warheads... Just recently, Turkish army technology company ASELSAN, was awarded 79 m$ to upgrade those missiles.. which also means, most probably Turkey got the codes but also promised not to develop nuclear weapon.. But, im sure there is a nuclear mind in Erdogans head. The deal with Japan also shows it.. after 2023..
LALE KEMAL - Turkey to upgrade US nuclear arsenal at İncirlik

Turkey is not even given Patriot, you think they were given Nukes???


Yep, I do. When NATO propsed placing nukes in Turkey's soil, Turkey negotiated and obtained some exclusively for themselves. And they have developed thereafter.
 
Turkey don't have nukes, nobody in the world have the guts to use it. Even putin and his gang, for the rest of ruskies junks. Come on, you have nothing to say.
 
of course Turkey is not protected and it's thanksgiving . happy hunting :coffee:

Do you want to say that ?
 
In this proxy war, No one got a upper moral hand. Everyone is trying to save his side. Consider AFPAK region. What Pakistan has done to counter Afghan/Indian Proxies in Afghanistan. Do you think Turkey would sit idle while US arms Kurds rebel to the teeth and there comes a time when they will bite turkish butt with a lethal force and tactics ?

US is not even arming Kurds properly, and NATO considers PKK a terrorist group. The question is why destablize syria? Most of the fighters are coming from Turkey. Turkey is facilitating the NATO to stir up trouble in Syria. What will happen if these armed militias are left high and dry just like in the 80s.

Just because Turkey does not like Assad, does not mean, it should support and destroy the Syrian state. US and others are foreign powers.
 

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