300 people die in Assad's prison every month : Amnesty

[RepublicOk]

I am sure the rebels treat their prisoners far worst than the Syrian Government forces.
No one is saint in this conflict but Assad is the lesser of the two evils and on top of that he is doing the world a favor by killing the ISIS fanatics. Assad FTW...

 

[Madali]

It's interesting that whenever the Syrian government is winning, we have a new wave of "reports" from NGOs.

It's however fortunate that most people are tired of the political and media manipulations. I'm reading comments on most western websites, and a lot of western commentators are tired of all these bullshit. Even a leftist, bleeding heart liberal website like The Guardian is full of readers that are critical of this report

 

[flamer84]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/18000-died-syria-prisons-amnesty-160818051435301.html

Almost 18,000 died in Syria's prisons: Amnesty
Rights group says authorities are using torture, electric shocks, beatings and rape on a "massive scale".

Amnesty International says about 300 people a month die in Syria's prisons [File: Reuters]

Almost 18,000 Syrians have died in government jails since 2011, with authorities using torture, beatings, electric shocks and rape against prisoners on a "massive scale," a rights groups has said.

The UK-based Amnesty International said on Thursday that an average of 300 people were dying in the country's prisons each month in a report it said was based on the experiences of thousands of former prisoners, including 65 survivors of torture.

Interviewees said the abuse would often start from the day they entered prison with so-called "welcome parties" that involved beatings with silicone or metal rods.

Female prisoners said sexual assaults or rapes would start at their first security check.

"They beat me until I was lying on the ground and then they kicked me ... until I passed out," Umm Omar, who was held at a jail in the city of Aleppo, said.

"When I woke up ... my trousers had been opened and moved down a bit, my abaya [full length robe] was open and my undershirt was moved up. Everything was hurting."

Nicolette Boehland, one of the Amnesty researchers who worked on the report, told Al Jazeera that "welcome parties" were so intense that some prisoners died from their injuries.

"One man said that when he arrived at Damascus' Saydnaya Military Prison with 60 other people, the beatings were so brutal that by the time he reached his cell, he heard that 20 men had been killed," she said.

Other prisoners spoke of being flogged on their feet during interrogations, being forced into rubber tyres while being beaten with plastic pipes, being suspended by their wrists and having their bodies forcefully "folded" backwards while in stress positions.

"They treated us like animals. They wanted people to be as inhuman as possible," Samer, a lawyer, said. "I saw the blood, it was like a river ... We used to always say here that there was no justice in Syria but I never imagined humanity would reach such a low level."


Most described witnessing at least one, if not several, deaths in custody, Amnesty said.

One former prisoner said when the ventilation system in a prison known as Military Intelligence Branch 235 in Damascus stopped working, seven out of nine people in one cell died of suffocation.

"They began to kick us to see who was alive and who wasn't. They told me and the other survivor to stand up against the wall and that is when I realised that on that day seven people had died, that I had slept next to seven bodies," he said.

According to the report, access to food, water and sanitation facilities was severely restricted with diseases thriving among the prison population.

"The cell had no toilet, no water," Abu Anas, a businessman, told Amnesty.

"They allowed us to use a bathroom after meals ... we had about 60 seconds each time. Once I took longer than that. By that time I had a beard already, and the guard forced me to take my excrement from the toilet and cover my face with it."



Amnesty urged foreign governments, in particular Russia and the United States, to pressure the Syrian authorities and armed groups to end the use of torture and other ill-treatment.

"For decades, Syrian government forces have used torture as a means to crush their opponents. Today, it is being carried out as part of a systematic and widespread attack directed against anyone suspected of opposing the government," Philip Luther, Director of Amnesty International's Middle East and North Africa Programme, said.

"Those responsible for these heinous crimes must be brought to justice."

The Syrian civil war started as a largely peaceful uprising against President Bashar al-Assad in March 2011, but quickly developed into a full-scale war.

The United Nations special envoy for Syria, Staffan de Mistura, estimated in April that more than 400,000 Syrians had been killed, though he said that number was not an official UN statistic.

Almost 11 million people - half the country's pre-war population - have fled their homes.

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How can you,a die hard islamist can take for real UK secular Amnesty ?

Come on, can't you see these rebels are backed by the same people who want to destroy Muslim nations? NATO has been doing nothing but hurting the Ummah, I doubt these rebels are as good as they say. Besides, most of those 400k civilians were killed by rebels.

news flash...there isn't and never was an Ummah.

lmao
Assasds Prison.

Western media : Assad killing woman and children!
Assad opposed to west giving rebels flowers.
etc etc

Man i feel for the IQ of western people who buy into these shits

Nobody buys it.Assad for the win !

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@Luffy 500 Can you please add another option (below) so I can exercise my right to vote. Thanks.

[X] Luffy 500 is certified loony toones.

 

[Beast]

But question that notion that the only alternative to current tyrants in ME is instability. Gaddafi was no good guy. He was a typical secular ME tyrant as bad and corrupt as ben ali , mubarak etc if not worse. . And always look into the pictures of syrians being massacred by barrel bombs. As a muslim it will inevitably soften your heart and allow you to see the truth Insha'Allah.

Gaddiffi was good for Libyan. After his country throw into turmoil by western, majority of Libyan wished gaddaffi is never killed and they can go back to the old days.

You are are a lackey of extremist and western. Trying to spread false lies and propangada. You are just short of one step of proclaming ISIS will be better for Syria than Assad.

 

[flamer84]

Gaddiffi was good for Libyan. After his country throw into turmoil by western, majority of Libyan wished gaddaffi is never killed and they can go back to the old days.

You are are a lackey of extremist and western. Trying to spread false lies and propangada. You are just short of one step of proclaming ISIS will be better for Syria than Assad.

Truth be told,Gaddafi wasn't good for his people,nor was Saddam....but the alternatives are worse.

 

[Beast]

As far as I know rebels do not drop barrel bombs or cluster munitions, the most efficient way of murdering civilians indiscriminately. They simply don't have the means, so it's a propaganda that they are killing more civilians.




Almost anybody can be 'implicated' of doing something wrong, it is the typical excuse used to put innocent people behind bars and then torturing them to death for not being a Nazi or Alawite.

As far as I know , Assad do not declare jihad and go around the world instigating supporter to run trucks over innocent people or mass shooting in France or even burn group of people alive in full TV view.

ISIS and Syria rebel do. I can bet most of those rebel uses human shield or purposely hid inside civilian building while firing mortar rds at Assa army.

Truth be told,Gaddafi wasn't good for his people,nor was Saddam....but the alternatives are worse.

There is no perfect solution. If you want perfect solution, it impossible now. You can only want the best solution.

 

[flamer84]

There is no perfect solution. If you want perfect solution, it impossible now. You can only want the best solution.

True that.That's why Assad must remain.The ME can only be ruled by secular strong men,I hope the entire planet,West included,understood that.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Truth be told,Gaddafi wasn't good for his people,nor was Saddam....but the alternatives are worse.

You see what people in post industrial societies do not understand is that most of the Third World is still in "raw" state. I don't have time to write a long thesis but the fact is most Third World countries raw, unformed and will have to go through the "mill" to evolve into modern societies, This process of forming is not pretty. Think of Europe between 1850-1950. Century of wars, genocides and mass repression, hate, think of Stalin in Russia, Hitler in Germany, Duce in Italy. think of chaos of war that the spread acros Europe. Making of modern state is not pretty and not too dissimilar to birth of human being. It involves lot of pain. The effect is pre industial feudal order id destroyed and replaced with a uniform order where the state prevails but gives the invidual freedom within certain parameters found on universal consensus.

That is why Syria needs it's Stalin, Libyia needed it's Duce and Iraq needed it's Adolph. All we did by interfering in this natural process was cause even more chaos and you can see what the result is. The society that Assad wants to build would be where you in a Romanian could walk through and feel quite at ease. In absence of that you have ISIL and you know what means. Death or migrants. Both bad news.

Top Gear in Syria before 2010. Listen to Jeremy Clarkson. Just before the war.

Go to 55:00 for Syria

 

[TheNoob]

Truth be told,Gaddafi wasn't good for his people,nor was Saddam....but the alternatives are worse.

no ones good according to the west.
What is even the point of meddling in others affair.

 

[flamer84]

no ones good according to the west.
What is even the point of meddling in others affair.

They think that they have a solution,see "democratic Irak".But,sometimes,they don't.

You see what people in post industrial societies do not understand is that most of the Third World is still in "raw" state. I don't have time to write a long thesis but the fact is most Third World countries raw, unformed and will have to go through the "mill" to evolve into modern societies, This process of forming is not pretty. Think of Europe between 1850-1950. Century of wars, genocides and mass repression, hate, think of Stalin in Russia, Hitler in Germany, Duce in Italy. think of chaos of war that the spread acros Europe. Making of modern state is not pretty and not too dissimilar to birth of human being. It involves lot of pain. The effect is pre industial feudal order id destroyed and replaced with a uniform order where the state prevails but gives the invidual freedom within certain parameters found on universal consensus.

That is why Syria needs it's Stalin, Libyia needed it's Duce and Iraq needed it's Adolph. All we did by interfering in this natural process was cause even more chaos and you can see what the result is. The society that Assad wants to build would be where you in a Romanian could walk through and feel quite at ease. In absence of that you have ISIL and you know what means. Death or migrants. Both bad news.

Top Gear in Syria before 2010. Listen to Jeremy Clarkson. Just before the war.

Go to 55:00 for Syria

This post has merit and should be discussed and expanded in the coming days.

 

[Erhabi]

Unfortunately as long as Sunnis are dying no one cares. That is why I support every group fighting against Bashar and his army of mercenaries except ISIS. Someone have to give reply to such atrocities. UN and every other fucking country involved in Syria shud be trailed for war crimes they committed. But I am 100 percent sure it wont ever happen so May Allah help the Mujahideens and Syrian people.

I was never a fan of the Assad regime, I don't understand why it is so popular here. Same as Saddam Husain, just a touch less brutal.

However the West has other reasons for toppling him, not the well being of the Syrian people.

Funny thing is he is not so popular among Syrians. Yet to meet a Syrian who supports this maniac.

 

[HAIDER]

Isn t 300 everyday is quite big BS....seems someone running Human Rights channel from bedroom ...

 

[T-Rex]

As far as I know , Assad do not declare jihad and go around the world instigating supporter to run trucks over innocent people or mass shooting in France or even burn group of people alive in full TV view.

Daesh does it because ISIS was created by the western spy agencies to malign Islam but the rebels cannot be held responsible for the actions of Daesh. Portraying the Daesh terrorists and the rebels as a single entity is a propaganda against the rebels.
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[Zibago]

For once in my life I agree with you to some extent. Never thought I will. Lol
You do make some valid points. However what you don't understand is that some of your ummah brothers here are so focus on the 'evil imperialistic' west so much so that it doesn't matter the situation or conflict, they will always be focused on criticising the West while whitewashing any other country who is allegedly a rival to the west.
So you are wasting your time if you think they will criticise the butcher Assad(or Saddam) and his patrons in Moscow and to a lesser extent in tehran. They will never since according to them they are the holy good guys oppose to the west. Once you have that so called 'anti western' title today, then you are free to kill as much people as you want or do whatever and people like them will still support you 100%. Lol

It's all about interests anyway, each power is merely securing their interests , everything else is secondary. Can't blame anyone(be it Russia, Iran, U.S , U.K or France) but Assad to be honest.



So you agree with some of us in the west who say you people deserve only Brutal dictators?

All nations evolve and change at their own pace dont try to turbo boost change