300 Pakistani students stranded in Bangladesh cry out for help

[Robbie]

Your govt. does this everyday by killing our people at the border. In fact almost every action taken by Indian govt. in terms of Bangladesh (whether strategic or tactical) is unfriendly, including helping our enemies with arms etc.

No one in the streets in Bangladesh when polled will say India is a friend of Bangladesh. No one - not even a lot of Hindus. Except maybe a few India-sycophant types you can count on your fingers.

If this is what the overall situation is - then becoming sworn enemies is not a stretch. We don't have to be Pakistani to be Anti-Indian. Get a clue - Rajoo.

Let's get your GDP growth from 3.5% to something respectable first - stronger economy is a relative term.

Don't f*ck with us - we won't f*ck with you.

We've seen a few instances in the past of what happens. Let's not repeat those.


Who are you trying to threaten - you think we all drink Gau Mutra for a living?

What effin' consequence? You think our armed forces haven't thought of any consequences for you?

You think any aggression for Bangladesh from India will be unilateral?

How long have you studied military strategy - Mr. armchair general?

Go read up and educate yourself first.

First off, if you wish to have a conversation, learn to talk decently. I didn't talk about your natural jihadi tendencies, did I?

Secondly, the only people who are killed are people who cross the border illegally. They are killed on Indian territory, not Bangladeshi. Borders will be enforced and there is no question on issue of allowing illegals to cross over. If you have an issue with it, ask your countrymen to stop crossing the border illegally. Indian visas for Bangladeshis are easy to get. You can consider this friendly, unfriendly, neutral, which every way you wish to. Borders are enforced globally and this is no exception. Heck, even SL Navy shoots at illegal Indian fishing boats. It doesn't devolve to national chest-beating about 'bad Sri Lanka' in India.

Supplying weapons to Myanmar is outside of Indian control and is a compulsion. It is the only way to maintain influence in Myanmar because Chinese supply more than ten times the weapons India does and have consequently built influence with the junta. This is much like how the US sells weapons to India and Pakistan and Russia sells weapons to India and China. And heck, Pakistan sells to Myanmar.

Learn to live with realpolitik.

As far as the military goes, I will avoid stating the obvious. At the end of the day, I advocate cooperation.

 

[Bilal9]

Secondly, the only people who are killed are people who cross the border illegally. They are killed on Indian territory, not Bangladeshi.

Well why do they have to be killed? What country in the world 'kills' (as a matter of policy - I might add) illegal border-crossers?? You think we believe every dhokeybaaji and lies your govt. tries to feed us?

There are hundreds of thousands of illegal Indians in Bangladesh - are we 'killing' them?? Bangladesh is at least third or fourth ranked in India's remittance - to the tune of some three or four Billion, go look it up.

Your country's savagery is well known - but this should definitely be given more media coverage.

Or may be we should arm our citizens who live on the border as I've proposed before. You want an escalation, you will have one. See where your veggie troops go then.

Borders are enforced globally and this is no exception.

Again - no country shoots-to-kill in the borders. They might detain illegal border crossers, but not shoot them to kill.

It is the only way to maintain influence in Myanmar because Chinese supply more than ten times the weapons India does and have consequently built influence with the junta.

Keep us out of your pathetic attempts to gain parity on the world political stage. No one cares about your 'influence' among neighbors by supplying them some rusted piece of junk. You will never gain parity with China and the Myanmarese generals are just playing you. Just another sad display of incompetence by your MEA and your govt.

 

[Robbie]

Well why do they have to be killed? What country in the world 'kills' (as a matter of policy - I might add) illegal border-crossers?? You think we believe every dhokeybaaji and lies your govt. tries to feed us?

There are hundreds of thousands of illegal Indians in Bangladesh - are we 'killing' them?? Bangladesh is at least third or fourth ranked in India's remittance - to the tune of some three or four Billion, go look it up.

Your country's savagery is well known - but this should definitely be given more media coverage.

Or may be we should arm our citizens who live on the border as I've proposed before. You want an escalation, you will have one. See where your veggie troops go then.

Again - no country shoots-to-kill in the borders. They might detain illegal border crossers, but not shoot them to kill.

There will be zero compromises on the issue of border security. Intelligence indicates that most of those crossing the border are smugglers or criminals inimical to peace and development of the border region of India. You can arm the people living on the Bangladeshi side of the border with nuclear weapons for all I care. If they cross over to India illegally, they will be shot. If they respect the laws of both Bangladesh and India, then there are no issues.

Keep us out of your pathetic attempts to gain parity on the world political stage. No one cares about your 'influence' among neighbors by supplying them some rusted piece of junk. You will never gain parity with China and the Myanmarese generals are just playing you. Just another sad display of incompetence by your MEA and your govt.

Neither the Govt. or the people of India asked permission for geopolitics or managing Indian relations with Myanmar. The competence (or lack thereof) of MEA is decided by whether Indian interests in Myanmar are being met and so far they are. Ergo, while I thank you for unsolicited advice, it is duly discarded.

 

[pakpride00090]

Listen 'Robbie' - or whatever your real name is, why don't you take your 'shoot-to-kill' bravado and your 'rusted junk' diplomacy and eff off to the Indian section.

Certain Sanghis like yourself are never welcome here and we don't give two shitz about road-$hitter India.

You never see one of us go bother Sanghis in the Indian section making all kinds of stupid Hindutva claims based on lies and fakery. We could care less.

So - you have earned a place in my ignore list. With that - just eff off and leave us Bangladeshis in peace -will you. Bon Voyage and Gay Hind!



I understand a lot of the seats are claimed by young women who are studying simply to be desirable in the marriage market. Many of them end up not practicing as doctors for some reason?

It is always these dirty gangus infesting our forums and internet space... You never see us going to their shit hole forums. We don't even want to talk to them but they keep coming back in hordes even after being banned.


My med school had 65:35 ratio in favor of women.. Women make over-whelming majority in most of med schools over here.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Bangladesh has better education facility compared to Pakistan

Not true. Pakistani universities are more difficult to get into.

 

[padamchen]

This was the position of Pakistan on students in China, i believe same applies here:
https://www.geo.tv/latest/275434-it...kistani-students-stuck-in-china-zulfi-bukhari

Why can they not be evacuated and kept in quarantine?

 

[VikingRaider]

Secondly, the only people who are killed are people who cross the border illegally. They are killed on Indian territory, not Bangladeshi. Borders will be enforced and there is no question on issue of allowing illegals to cross over. If you have an issue with it, ask your countrymen to stop crossing the border illegally.

Okay so which country in this world shoot if people illegally try to cross border if may I ask? Why can't BSF just arrest them? Or if they are fleeing , why can't BSF shoot on their leg and then capture them?

What type of people shoot other people only for crossing border illegally?

If they cross over to India illegally, they will be shot.

Is it the law of india? Do you give the same treatment to others like Pakistan, China, Nepal bla bla bla??? You ask someone not to talk like jihadi ( although I didn't find him talking like a jihadi) but in reality it's you who is talking like a so called jihadi aka terrorist, aren't you?

Only terrorists are too merciless to kill people if they just cross border illegally.

I know crossing border illegally is a crime, but is it too big that they have to pay with their life? What type of barbaric act it is?

 

[Robbie]

Okay so which country in this world shoot if people illegally try to cross border if may I ask? Why can't BSF just arrest them? Or if they are fleeing , why can't BSF shoot on their leg and then capture them?

What type of people shoot other people only for crossing border illegally?

This policy did not come out in a vacuum. The people crossing the Indo-BD border are actual smugglers and criminals. They run the drug businesses in Bangladesh. When BSF tried to stop them without shooting, these people regularly shot at the force leading to casualties. Then GoI instructed BSF to do non-lethal shootings because of the sensitivities of Bangladeshi people, but again, the criminals are shooting to kill. Since then a firm policy has been that they are ordered to go for non-lethal shots but if necessary protection of their own lives is paramount. You can see that despite shootings, illegal jumping of border by these smugglers still continues though less than before.

For every death of illegal border crossers you see, there are 5 that have not been killed. The borders will be enforced and this is good for both BD and India. Some Bangladeshis seem to not comprehend what borders mean.

Is it the law of india? Do you give the same treatment to others like Pakistan, China, Nepal bla bla bla??? You ask someone not to talk like jihadi ( although I didn't find him talking like a jihadi) but in reality it's you who is talking like a so called jihadi aka terrorist, aren't you?

• For Pakistan: absolutely. Shot without hesitation because there we know the border jumpers are terrorists
• For China: the geography (Himalayas) is such a barrier that humans can't cross over easily. There are barely any illegal crossings
• Nepal: No, Nepal and India have an agreement to allow visa-free travel between the states. Any Nepali can freely move to, work in India and vice-versa
• Bhutan: No, Bhutan and India have an agreement to allow visa-free travel between states. Though they cannot work in India without a visa
• For Myanmar: there are very few people crossing over as the geography (dense and long forests) are not conducive. Some North East Indian terrorist groups had made a base in the Myanmar side of the forests. However, the Indian and Myanmar military conducted joint operations to destroy these camps and the border crossings reduced again

I know crossing border illegally is a crime, but is it too big that they have to pay with their life? What type of barbaric act it is?

If they were tourists, simple villagers, this would not have been an issue. However, this is not so.

Because of the presence of enclaves on both Indian and BD side which could not be governed by either country, these areas became a den of criminal activity with gun-running, drug smuggling becoming major businesses. These people shot at the Indian forces manning the border and killed the soldiers. Despite shooting, these people have not stopped their businesses.

Most Bangladeshis fail to appreciate this reality of the border crossing. And so when they talk about reducing shootings, the way Indians perceive it as support for criminal activity. The only way there will no shootings on that border is if Indian troops lay down their lives for smugglers and criminals. That will not happen.

 

[VikingRaider]

They run the drug businesses in Bangladesh. When BSF tried to stop them without shooting, these people regularly shot at the force leading to casualties.

All I can say in short, shoot them at leg, so that they will be disabled. Then arrest them.

 

[namefield_empty]

Most Bangladeshis fail to appreciate this reality of the border crossing.

They will never understand, friend. Being trying to tell these points to them for the past one year. Excellent post..

 

[Bilal9]

Okay so which country in this world shoot if people illegally try to cross border if may I ask? Why can't BSF just arrest them? Or if they are fleeing , why can't BSF shoot on their leg and then capture them?

What type of people shoot other people only for crossing border illegally?


Is it the law of india? Do you give the same treatment to others like Pakistan, China, Nepal bla bla bla??? You ask someone not to talk like jihadi ( although I didn't find him talking like a jihadi) but in reality it's you who is talking like a so called jihadi aka terrorist, aren't you?

Only terrorists are too merciless to kill people if they just cross border illegally.

I know crossing border illegally is a crime, but is it too big that they have to pay with their life? What type of barbaric act it is?

Bhai did you notice that I did not get really nasty with him.

They can shoot kids like Felani and leave them hanging on barbed wire for everyone to see for days. To BSF, these poor people are less than animals. Sometimes people on both sides of the border have to cross because they no other option to make a living. And Sanghis make them out to be terrorists of course.

On top of that BSF always crosses the border to rob people of livestock and money - in fact anything of value. They are like rogue indisciplined hoodlums that need to be taught some hard lessons. Baraibari was not enough - we need some half a dozen Baraibaris to happen.

I go back to my earlier plan - we should give the villagers living on the border arms and training just to spite these BSF ba$tards. Same in the Myanmar border. Jemon kukur temon mugur. Let the villagers take care of themselves when BSF decides to cross the border to come to our side to steal stuff. Shoot-to-kill can be our policy as well.

You have to be an A$$hole to deal with A$$holes.

 

[Sehnsucht]

You have to be an A$$hole to deal with A$$holes.

IMO Bangladesh should start giving support to rebels & separatists in the Seven Sisters again.With NRC & CAA causing unrest in these states, the time is ripe.Not very honorable, but effective.

As Sheikh Mujibur Rahman once said, "When you play with a gentleman, you play like a gentleman. But when you play with bastards, make sure you play like a bigger bastard. Otherwise, you will lose."

 

[VikingRaider]

Bhai did you notice that I did not get really nasty with him.

Yes Bhai I saw. But they are too quick to put blame on others and good at overlooking their own fault. So don't be bothered by their act. It's their nature and it's not going to change soon.

They can shoot kids like Felani and leave them hanging on barbed wire for everyone to see for days. To BSF, these poor people are less than animals.

In top of that BSF always crosses the border to rob people of livestock and money - in fact anything of value. They are like rogue indisciplined hoodlums that need to be taught lessons.

It's their nature from ages. You surely read their history, you know how.abusive their elite classes were to common people. Did brahmins, or other higher classes ever treated their own low class folks with Humanity? No they didn't.

Since their own people are less than animals to them, then let alone others. Killing and abusing the weak have been their culture since antiquity. There are may reasons why Muslims invaded and captured various parts of india so easily.

I go back to my earlier plan - we should give the villagers living on the border arms and training just to spite these BSF ba$tards. Same in the Myanmar border. Jemon kukur temon mugur. Let the villagers take care of themselves when BSF decides to cross the border to come to our side to steal stuff. Shoot-to-kill can be our policy as well.

Sometimes I feel that it's the only way to counter them. We are giving them much more benefit that they don't deserve. We helped them counter terrorists and make their border safe, but in return they are killing poor people. So hit them hard but secretely. It's perhaps the only way to teach them lessons. They will learn what others can do if they want.

You have to be an A$$hole to deal with A$$holes.

Exactly. I never forget a quote of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and that is, "When you play with a gentleman, you play like a gentleman. But when you play with bastards, make sure you play like a bigger bastard. Otherwise, you will lose".

As Sheikh Mujibur Rahman once said, "When you play with a gentleman, you play like a gentleman. But when you play with bastards, make sure you play like a bigger bastard. Otherwise, you will lose."

Ah same thing I too write. It's called what fire is inside us. Just the problem is perhaps our govt want some more time to fight back. Only Allah knows best.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Exactly. I never forget a quote of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and that is, "When you play with a gentleman, you play like a gentleman. But when you play with bastards, make sure you play like a bigger bastard. Otherwise, you will lose".


Ah same thing I too write.

Great minds think alike.

 

[Robbie]

They will never understand, friend. Being trying to tell these points to them for the past one year. Excellent post..

Thank you. I can see your point better now.

India has been nothing but generous to Bangladesh, giving thousands of acres of land and tens of thousands of acres of sea. A country like China would have taken land from them instead of settling it as India did. Chinese example of how they are treating their sea neighbours is instructive in just how generous India has been.

In addition, their trade to Nepal and Bhutan is not taxed by India.

Yet not only are these Bangladeshis ungrateful, they wish to actively support terrorism. I guess some things don't change. I hope the Government of India recognizes these aspects of Bangladeshis instead of believing in 'good relations' trope that their Government says.