'2mn cows smuggled from India every year'

[JonAsad]

Indeed and that should include Christians and any person who wants to eat beef. I mean what next, a restriction on me enjoying my pork chops in Delhi with my favorite whiskey simply because it offends Muslim sentiments ??

you will eat pork just to offend Muslims?-

 

[mujhaidind]

Indeed and that should include Christians and any person who wants to eat beef. I mean what next, a restriction on me enjoying my pork chops in Delhi with my favorite whiskey simply because it offends Muslim sentiments ??

No on cares. Pigs aren't considred to be holy.

 

[Spring Onion]

Indeed and that should include Christians and any person who wants to eat beef. I mean what next, a restriction on me enjoying my pork chops in Delhi with my favorite whiskey simply because it offends Muslim sentiments ??

bwahahahahahahah PlanetWarrior you are still ignorant even after so many years ? you can eat pork anyone can eat pork it does not offend us Muslims .

lolzzzzz pork is not holy for us lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Sugarcane]

India should start exporting it to Pakistan instead of allowing smuggling to Bangladesh. We will process the meat and export to Middle east and central Asia. Win-Win for both enemies.

 

[Spring Onion]

here is something which is linked and debated before elections



May 2014 Last updated at 21:36

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India's elections spark debate on beef exports
By Shilpa KannanBBC News, Delhi
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India's beef industry has made it on to the election agenda

One meaty issue that has dominated the election rhetoric this season has been the issue of beef exports. And a leading candidate for the prime minister's post has attacked the current government's position on the beef trade.

In South Delhi, it is early in the morning and a steady stream of visitors are lining up with food packets in their hands. Some have sacks of jaggery, or sugar cane, while others have sacks of grass, but nearly everyone has a couple of rotis, or flat breads, on offer.

They are waiting to feed about 700 cows in an open temple yard in the area.

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Our ancestors' spirits bless us through these cows. How can anyone think of killing them?”

Large, unused buildings in many cities have been transformed to house old and abandoned cattle, so devout Hindus can come to feed them and pray to them.

That is why India's status as an international beef exporter is a shock to many Indian residents.

Housewife Jagriti Chadha has been to the temple for more than a decade to seek blessings from the holy cows in the yard.

"I'm shocked," she says.

"We believe thousands of Hindu gods reside in the cows, that's why we feed them every day.

"Our ancestors' spirits bless us through these cows. How can anyone think of killing them and making money of it?"

Narendra Modi, the prime ministerial candidate of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), has attacked the current government over India's position as one of the world's biggest beef exporters.

Indian exports account for about 20% of the global supply and while economically this might seem to be a good thing, in India, the cow is revered as holy by Hindus, and so the consumption and sale of beef always sparks fierce political and religious debate.

However, it is not cows but the less revered water buffaloes that mostly make the cut for meat-processing factories.

Half of the world's buffalo population is in India, and global demand for buffalo meat has become a source of revenue and brought in a lot of money for the country.

Both buffalo meat and meat from cows are known as beef internationally.

A few hours outside Delhi, in neighbouring Uttar Pradesh, there is a network of beef-processing factories.

India's beef traders are seeing more orders from overseas
Chopped into the choicest cuts, the beef processed here is headed for dinner tables across the world.

By processing the beef according to halal standards - or Islamic laws - companies like Al Saqib Exports have had success exporting to markets in west Asia and north Africa.

India sells $3.2bn (£1.9bn) worth of buffalo meat annually to more than 65 countries.

And the demand for buffalo meat - leaner and cheaper than cow meat - is growing.

Al Saqib's director, Saqib Akhlaq, says he already owns five processing plants and is now building two more slaughterhouses because of the huge demand.

"Indian beef is very good quality and comparable to Brazilian meat so we hope to export to more countries soon. We are getting very good prices."

Worried traders
While the beef traders and exporters are financially benefitting from the lucrative meat industry, this part of the economy has been a target of criticism and has been a feature in the election speeches of the main opposition party, the Hindu nationalist BJP.

Narendra Modi wants to put a stop to the beef trade. In his election speeches he has been calling it India's "pink revolution".

That has the traders worried - though no-one is willing to talk about it publicly just yet.

But while exports are driving growth in the country's meat industry, even within India, the appetite for buffalo beef is seeing a steady rise. Consumption is growing, especially in urban areas.

One such place seeing rising intake of buffalo meat is in central Delhi's Nizammudin, known for its street of kebab shops.

Food stall owners in central Delhi are increasingly offering beef on their menu
Young and old, people throng the little shops, as slivers of beef sizzle on the hot coals.

In Ghalib's kebab shop, chef Muhammad Shahab Khan prides himself on his secret recipe.

"I have been cooking here for decades," he says.

"Tourists and locals come here from all over as we choose the best meat. But now I see lot more young people come and ask for beef rolls and kebabs."

While chicken and fish still dominate the diet of non-vegetarians, there seems to be little doubt that beef is becoming a popular meal option.

Beef kebabs are a become a popular meal option for locals
Abhijit Junagde is a frequent traveller and he enjoys eating beef in a variety of ways, and has sampled many beef dishes from around the world.

"I'd love to have more of it in India, especially if it can be made more hygienically and presented well," he says.

His colleague, Aishwaryaa Bodke, says: "I like eating beef a lot - it's delicious. I prefer red meat over chicken.

"But I have to keep on exploring places and looking for it as it's not readily available in India."

For now, India's laws banning the slaughter of cows and making it tough for restaurants to serve beef do not seem to be holding back the market too much.

But there is an anxiety that if the BJP comes to power - and if it stands by its anti-beef manifesto - then the industry in India risks losing some of its shine.

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[SarthakGanguly]

This anti-cow slaughter moves and protests are ridiculous. As a Hindu I don't eat beef but why should non-Hindus be prevented from doing so? Hindus should simply stay away from any establishment which slaughters cows. If a Hindu is personally not involved in the slaughter of cows that should suffice for them. India is a secular Republic. These limitations on cow slaughter and consumption of beef goes against the secular nature of the state. Restrictions on slaughtering of cows or consumption of beef within a certain radius of temples or Hindu holy shrines are acceptable. Blanket restrictions are simply stupid

Why don't we ask the cows? Why is their consent so unimportant? At least they have a mouth. Ask them to vote - Mooo for No and No chance for Yes.

Wish we had Erwin Meis in this forum, I would tag him and he would salivate at the sight of soo many humans.

In addition , if we hindus are so particular about cows why abandon them when they stop giving milk ? lets look after them and not let them loiter about on roads eating plastic packets.
There are Gau Shalas run by various orgnisations but they are not enough.

I support this view. If we respect a creature, we should take care of them to the end of her life. Not dump her after she stops giving milk.

You guys have been arguing that this animal gives you so many benefits hence it is sacred.

We are supposed to respect women too - as avatars, we have the most number of festivals in the name of women. Yet we still have incidences of violence and rape against them.

 

[Spring Onion]

I support this view. If we respect a creature, we should take care of them to the end of her life. Not dump her after she stops giving milk.

You guys have been arguing that this animal gives you so many benefits hence it is sacred.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

No on cares. Pigs aren't considred to be holy.

Where exactly did I state that 'pigs are considered holy" genius? Will you sit at a table or eat at a restaurant where pork is served? Hence my statement which really is so simple to understand

you will eat pork just to offend Muslims?-

Nope. I eat pork since I enjoy the taste of it just as I eat chicken, lamb and a host of other stuff for the same reason.

bwahahahahahahah PlanetWarrior you are still ignorant even after so many years ? you can eat pork anyone can eat pork it does not offend us Muslims .
lolzzzzz pork is not holy for us lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Where exactly did I state that 'pigs are considered holy" genius? Will you sit at a table or eat at a restaurant where pork is served? Hence my statement which really is so simple to understand

 

[mujhaidind]

Will you sit at a table or eat at a restaurant where pork is served? Hence my statement which really is so simple to understand

Muslims won't visit such places, isn't it obvious?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Muslims won't visit such places, isn't it obvious?

Then read my earlier post with that in mind

 

[Indischer]

If Muslims or Christians slaughtering cows is something to frown upon, what about Hindus who abandon cows or sell them to abbatoirs/butchers after adopting them and milking them for all their worth? Why not bring in stringent laws that ban any Hindu from selling or abandoning their cows before pointing a finger at those who buy such cows and then proceed to slaughter them?

 

[janon]

This is just hurting us.
We worship holy cow. And they are slaughtering it, India government should make a strong law with a strong force to encounter these smugglers.
The greatness of hindu religion is that we think animals have also equal right to live but others are just thinking that they are the GOD of this earth and can kill any animal as they are their slave.
They can not speak the pain that does not mean that they are not the creature of God.
Animals should have equal right to live.
Earth is not for only humans.
Lastly we have sharp brain that make us human
but that does not mean we are superior.

Should animals who violate that law be arrested, like humans are? I mean, if a crocodile eats a deer, should the croc be arrested for violating the deer's right to life? What about birds eating worms? How come they are not following hindu religious views, if they are universal?

And by the way, if you ever get chased by a bear or a tiger, make sure to teach them about your right to life.

The point is that creatures feeding on other creatures has been the story of life on earth. Other than plants, no other life form can survive without eating another life form. And even plants take nutrition from the soil that is fertilized by dead life forms.

And does hindu religion really give equal right to all animals, as you claim? Mosquitoes and flies that spread diseases and epidemics? Would you swat a mosquito that bites you, or think about how it has a right to life? Would you spray insecticides to kill disease vectors and improve public health, or would that be an infringement on the right to life of those flies and mosquitos? Would you support the distribution of mosquito nets in Africa to prevent mass outbrakes of Malaria, our would that be an infringment on the mosquitos' right to earn a livelihood by feeding from human children? What about disease causing bacteria, which are also animals? You are committing a mass genocide each time you take an antibiotic.

BTW could you please tell me where exactly hindu religion says animals have equal right to live? You are aware, aren't you, that the makers of the vedic religion and the subsequent hindu religion were all meat eaters? It was Buddhism and Jainism that advocated and spread vegetarianism in the Indian subcontinent, not hinduism. Hindu legends are full of non vegetarian conduct by the good guys - Rama and Lakshmana hunting in the forest, and so on.

 

[Skull and Bones]

If Muslims or Christians slaughtering cows is something to frown upon, what about Hindus who abandon cows or sell them to abbatoirs/butchers after adopting them and milking them for all their worth? Why not bring in stringent laws that ban any Hindu from selling or abandoning their cows before pointing a finger at those who buy such cows and then proceed to slaughter them?

These are all ideological hypocrites.

 

[Indischer]

Should animals who violate that law be arrested, like humans are? I mean, if a crocodile eats a deer, should the croc be arrested for violating the deer's right to life? What about birds eating worms? How come they are not following hindu religious views, if they are universal?

And by the way, if you ever get chased by a bear or a tiger, make sure to teach them about your right to life.

The point is that creatures feeding on other creatures has been the story of life on earth. Other than plants, no other life form can survive without eating another life form. And even plants take nutrition from the soil that is fertilized by dead life forms.

And does hindu religion give equal right to all animals, as you claim? Mosquitoes and flies that spread diseases and epidemics? Would you swat a mosquito that bites you, or think about how it has a right to life? What about disease causing bacteria, which are also animals? You are committing a mass genocide each time you take an antibiotic.

BTW could you please tell me where exactly hindu religion says animals have equal right to live? You are aware, aren't you, that the makers of the vedic religion and the subsequent hindu religion were all meat eaters? It was Buddhism and Jainism that advocated and spread vegetarianism in the Indian subcontinent, not hinduism. Hindu legends are full of non vegetarian conduct by the good guys - Rama and Lakshmana hunting in the forest, and so on.

Well said, but I guess you gave one example too many.

 

[janon]

Well said, but I guess you gave one example too many.

Actually I added a few more examples, while you were quoting me.