'2mn cows smuggled from India every year'

[HariPrasad]

This anti-cow slaughter moves and protests are ridiculous. As a Hindu I don't eat beef but why should non-Hindus be prevented from doing so? Hindus should simply stay away from any establishment which slaughters cows. If a Hindu is personally not involved in the slaughter of cows that should suffice for them. India is a secular Republic. These limitations on cow slaughter and consumption of beef goes against the secular nature of the state. Restrictions on slaughtering of cows or consumption of beef within a certain radius of temples or Hindu holy shrines are acceptable. Blanket restrictions are simply stupid

This is not enough. We should protect anything which we believe is sacred. These people attack cow to insult Hindus., Two Days back, some people started beating cows and hit cow head with Soda bottle and tube light. Few Hindus get to gathered and chase them and beat them. These people will take this indirect way to insult Hindus. It is our duty to protect our dignity.

 

[possumlot]

That's a false dichotomy. There are plenty of places in India as well as outside, where I can kill cows and eat beef without starting off a riot. Not all hindus are riot prone, as you seem to imply. Go to Mangalore, Goa, Kerala, many parts of Andhra, and you will see hindus and everybody else eating beef. Not to mention all the burgers I've had at McDonalds' in the US. (OK, that last one is not a very wise thing to do, for health reasons.)

Not all Hindus are religious or take effort to follow their dharma. Most don't even know what Dharma is. Most have forgotten what it means to be Hindu.

But as their religious awakening take place, they will being to get more assertive.

If you have seen hindus eat beef, I have seen muslims eat pork too and Christians working on sundays. That does not mean anything.

 

[SrNair]

Most of the vedic practices which involved animal sacrifice is forbidden in the Kal yuga. The Dharma-shastra and Manusmriti is very clear about not eating the flesh of animals. Especially cows.

Even in the Veda's the animal sacrifice was made to the gods and the rest eaten as prasad. It was regulated and was performed under strict observance of rituals.

Meat eating among the hindu's existed but it was on special occasions with the understand that taking a life of another to fulfil your own greed was a sin.

Meat eating existed even in Buddhism and Jainism ..... so much for your expert commentary. The buddhist and Jains do not eat meat for the same reasons Hindus do not eat meat. because it is sinful and it makes it that much harder to break free of the cycle of rebirths.




It is foolish to credit vegetarianism to Jains and Buddhist, especially since Buddha himself was a kshtriya and was a known meat eater Worse you try to imply Jainism is of a different origin and is separate from Hinduism. The fact is the the first Thirthankara i.e. the founder of Janism and the first man to acheive Moksha is from the Rig Vega.

"But Risabha went on, unperturbed by anything till he became sin-free like a conch that takes no black dot, without obstruction ... which is the epithet of the First World-teacher, may become the destroyer of enemies" —Rig Veda, X.166

Hinduism itself changed the practices of animal sacrifice and replaced it with vegetables almost 2000 years back.


Or your weird logic will now claim since the gods drank Soma ..... all hindus must become alcoholic to apart from becoming beef eaters



....... you are an embarrassment to RSS.

LoL .
From RSS I learned how we can avoid meat items .They taught us its scientific base.Human digestive sytem is more compatible for vegetarian food.But for some reason we cant avoid some non veg like fish ,egg.
And some times Veg food are more poisonus than non veg food due to overuse of chemicals and pesticides.

 

[possumlot]

I'm curious about that as well. She has applied that epithet on me as well, on many occasions. Not to mention Indians collectively. @Spring Onion aunty/behen/beti, care to clarify what that means?


That's not a "tenet" or dogma, that is a goal.

Dharma is the tenet or dogma. Rta is the irrefutable cosmic law that all dharmic religions preach and dharma is the path. The goal is moksha.

 

[janon]

Not all Hindus are religious or take effort to follow their dharma. Most don't even know what Dharma is. Most have forgotten what it means to be Hindu.

But as their religious awakening take place, they will being to get more assertive.

If you have seen hindus eat beef, I have seen muslims eat pork too and Christians working on sundays. That does not mean anything.

The point is that that doesn't necessarily lead to riots. There are hindus civilized enough to let other people follow or not follow what they regard as dharm, without rioting and killing.

 

[possumlot]

The point is that that doesn't necessarily lead to riots. There are hindus civilized enough to let other people follow or not follow what they regard as dharm, without rioting and killing.

Not upholding dharma is not civilized, its cowardice. That is what Sri. Krishana taught Arjuna in the battle field of Kurekshetra and this advice is compiled into a book called the Gita.

Both Sri. Ramchandra ji and Arjuna took up arms to protect Dharma and all hindus are taught to follow in their foot steps.

 

[janon]

Dharma is the tenet or dogma. Its the irrefutable cosmic law that all dharmic religions preach. The goal is moksha.

Ah yes, the same old "irrefutable, universal truth" that my own religion and similar ones teach. Hmm, I wonder where I've heard that before.

 

[possumlot]

Ah yes, the same old "irrefutable, universal truth" that my own religion and similar ones teach. Hmm, I wonder where I've heard that before.

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I don't know where you have heard it and I don't care what you have heard.

You are free to follow the "irrefutable" truth that gravity exist and E=MC sq.

 

[janon]

Not upholding dharma is not civilized, its cowardice. That is what Sri. Krishana taught Arjuna in the battle field of Kurekshetra and this advice is compiled into a book called the Gita.

Both Rama and Arjuna took up arms to protect Dharma and all hindus are taught to follow in their foot steps.

Rama and Arjuna did not take arms because somebody ate beef. The former to regain his wife, the latter to regain his country. This is the typical path through which the gullible are encouraged to "take arms" for whatever the religion states. You think it is right to "take arms" and riot against people who eat beef, another thinks the same thing about cartoonists, another thinks USA should be destroyed because of sexual promiscuity (although Europe is farr more promiscous), and so on. Religious people can always come up with an excuse to riot and kill, and then preach others about ahimsa. LOL.

I don't know where you have heard it and I don't care what you have heard.

You are free to follow the "irrefutable" truth that gravity exist and E=MC sq.

Oh I can prove that E=MC^2, and I can demonstrate the existence of gravity, and even verify some of the theories accounting for the facts. Not because it was written in a musty book in ancient times, but because it is demonstrable. But yes, like all religious people, you think tat the one you follow (and were most probably born into) is the one true ireefutable one.

 

[possumlot]

Rama and Arjuna did not take arms because somebody ate beef. The former to regain his wife, the latter to regain his country. This is the typical path through which the gullible are encouraged to "take arms" for whatever the religion states. You think it is right to "take arms" and riot against people who eat beef, another thinks the same thing about cartoonists, another thinks USA should be destroyed because of sexual promiscuity (although Europe is farr more promiscous), and so on. Religious people can always come up with an excuse to riot and kill, and then preach others about ahimsa. LOL.

LOL.

I don't see how that is any different from taking up arms for your constitution ........ or to "bring democracy" somewhere or to "find WMD"

But fee free to continue your prejudiced against religion or whatever you do not agree with.

Oh I can prove that E=MC^2, and I can demonstrate the existence of gravity, and even verify some of the theories accounting for the facts. Not because it was written in a musty book in ancient times, but because it is demonstrable. But yes, like all religious people, you think tat the one you follow (and were most probably born into) is the one true ireefutable one.

Oh sure, earlier men proved earth was flat. Then they proved Newton was right and now you can prove newton was wrong and E=MC sq is right

 

[janon]

LOL.
I don't see how that is any different from taking up arms for your constitution ........ or to "bring democracy" somewhere or to "find WMD"
But fee free to continue your prejudiced against religion or whatever you do not agree with.

Ummm... but it IS different from rioting because somebody ate beef. That's the point.

 

[dropithard]

cow slaughter and export is against our constitution Directive Principles of State Policy. Article 48 of the Constitution says: `The State shall endeavour to organise agriculture and animal husbandry on modern and scientific lines and shall, in particular, take steps for preserving and improving the breeds, and prohibiting the slaughter of cows and calves and other milch and draught cattle'

in fact Mahatma Gandhi had declared that this ban is Item 1 of Independent India's agenda

 

[possumlot]

Ummm... but it IS different from rioting because somebody ate beef. That's the point.

Oh you mean one killing (war) is organized and the other (riot) is unorganized ?

 

[janon]

Oh sure, earlier men proved earth was flat. Then they proved Newton was right and now you can prove newton was wrong and E=MC sq is right

Nobody ever proved the earth was flat. Many believed so, because of what they saw in everyday life. But it was demonstrated that the earth is round, and even its radius of curvature was measured very ingeniously by Eratosthenes in ancient Greece.

Newton was not proved "right" or "wrong". Newton developed a theory, and theories are verified, not proven. As I explained yesterday, theories in science do not get "proved". Proofs exist only in math and logic.

And BTW, Newton's theory was not wrong, it was refined to come to a better understanding. Newton's theory could account for a large number of phenomena, and still can. But his theory could not explain some phenomena like the perturbations in Mercury's orbit, but that also came to be understood when Einsttein revealed his theory.

I'll quote Arthur C Clarke to illustrate this common misconception that s cientific theories get proven wrong all the time:

When they thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When theythought the earth was spherical, they were also wrong. But if you think they were both wrong to the same degree, then you are more wrong than both of them put together.

The point is that theories constantly evolve, and better understanding is arrived at. If the scientific method is followed, it is rare that a theory is completely shown to be wrong, although that does happen as well.

Anyway to keep it short, nobody "proved" the earth is flat. And your claiming that your own religion is the one great truth, is what every believer believes about his religion. Nothing surprising there.

To keep it memetic again, for the lulz, here you go:

Oh you mean one killing (war) is organized and the other (riot) is unorganized ?

No. Riots can be organized as well. I mean that going to war for the nation's interest may or may not be justified, depending on what the goal is. But rioting and killing somebody for eating beef is always unjustified. It's really simple to understand, if you try.

 

[bitter_but_better]

I think these cow eaters will not understand anything.
So here is the solution if u r true hindu.. And found someone torturing holy cow or trying to smuggle.. Beat them with bajrang dal.. And hand over to police..
And if u r adharmi then atleast inform about these incidents to police.
And do join bajrang dal.. Or RSS..