270 Rifles and Ammunition recovered from a Afghan truck

[YeBeWarned]

They don't understand history of Afghan Pak relations. They don't follow the Psyche of Afghans even today

It might be simple ignorance or it might be deliberate because of ethnic affinity

Most likely Ethnic affection, I notice a change in opinion about Indian Muslims since they come out against Pakistan at every turn, and look on this very PDF , people including me doesn't blink of the suffering of them , they Abused Jinnah , curse him for Partition , and even go even further by blaming Pakistan for making their lives harder in India. And no matter how many Pakistani's these Afghans will slaughter, there will always be one Particular Ethnicity who will love them, provide Shelter to them, give them Guns , money to settle, bring more Afghani's , and later send them all to Karachi .. Don't even keep in their own State lol

 

[Areesh]

Most likely Ethnic affection, I notice a change in opinion about Indian Muslims since they come out against Pakistan at every turn, and look on this very PDF , people including me doesn't blink of the suffering of them , they Abused Jinnah , curse him for Partition , and even go even further by blaming Pakistan for making their lives harder in India. And no matter how many Pakistani's these Afghans will slaughter, there will always be one Particular Ethnicity who will love them, provide Shelter to them, give them Guns , money to settle, bring more Afghani's , and later send them all to Karachi .. Don't even keep in their own State lol

Not every indian muslim hates Pakistan or jinnah. In fact i have seen a shift in recent past where Indian Muslims have started to appreciate acumen of jinnah and are abusing maulana azad or deobandi maulvis of that time. Things are changing in indian Muslims very fast

In any case. They can only abuse Pakistan but cannot damage Pakistan like Afghans who have blood of thousands of Pakistanis on their hand i am not just talking about deaths due to Afghan supported terror in past 10 years. It goes further back than that.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Not every indian muslim hates Pakistan or jinnah. In fact i have seen a shift in recent past where Indian Muslims have started to appreciate acumen of jinnah and are abusing maulana azad or deobandi maulvis of that time. Things are changing in indian Muslims very fast

Even so, they have to live with the decisions their forefathers did ..
and Modi is just getting started with them, soon they will understand why Jinnah was pleading them to move to Pakistan .

In any case. They can only abuse Pakistan but cannot damage Pakistan like Afghans who have blood of thousands of Pakistanis on their hand i am not just talking about deaths due to Afghan supported terror in past 10 years. It goes further back than that.

But this Afghan situation was forced upon us by a military Dictator, people like Bacha khan , Asfand yar wali , and Achakzai came out of Afghanistan , all of them are Traitorous cunts . No point in History we have a Friendly Afghanistan, yes for some of them did not wanted to kill us but most of the Afghans still hate Pakistan, their love for India and support for BLA and TTP is enough evidence for it .

What's funny is @Dubious the moderator trying to ban me, but no action is taken against the racists who were abusing Pakistani's , so the new normal on PDF is that you can talk about Abusing Pakistani's , killing them , and worse but you can't say or Generalize the Sons of Soil and their Chaddi buddy Afghans .

 

[Areesh]

Even so, they have to live with the decisions their forefathers did ..
and Modi is just getting started with them, soon they will understand why Jinnah was pleading them to move to Pakistan .

Agreed

But we should support them as it is the purpose of Pakistan. Abandoning them would be foolish and would be playing into what hindutva rats would actually want

But this Afghan situation was forced upon us by a military Dictator, people like Bacha khan , Asfand yar wali , and Achakzai came out of Afghanistan , all of them are Traitorous cunts . No point in History we have a Friendly Afghanistan, yes for some of them did not wanted to kill us but most of the Afghans still hate Pakistan, their love for India and support for BLA and TTP is enough evidence for it

You missed the latest stab in the back of Pakistan by Afghans. The PTM and Manzoor Gashteen drama. The back stabbing continues even today

 

[YeBeWarned]

But we should support them as it is the purpose of Pakistan. Abandoning them would be foolish and would be playing into what hindutva rats would actually want

Honestly I have heard enough of them literally abusing Jinnah in worse way, they disrespected Jinnah on Live TV, and in Pakistan a lot of the people still respect Gandhi . So I respect your decision on supporting them but i can not support them, and as i used to say that until Kashmiri's start the fight , no one can bring them independence , same if Indian Muslims wants to live with Honor and dignity they have to fight these Fascists .

You missed the latest stab in the back of Pakistan by Afghans. The PTM and Manzoor Gashteen drama. The back stabbing continues even today

What did this Na-Manzoor P!ssteen did now ? I missed it ..

 

[Vortex]

Something that didn't happen at peak of Pakistan influence in Afghanistan 80's and 90's so it wont happen now ,Generalization based on History and facts is not bad , it might save a lot of lives .. I would rather be safe than sorry, what would you say to those 120+ dead APS children ?

I understand your point of view totally Bro. It didn't happen in the 80/90's. But why ?
It would have saved lot of lifes if we (Pakistan and Afghanistan included) took the correct decisions, but we (Pakistan and Afghanistan included) did mistakes. What were those mistakes, who made those mistakes and why ?

What i would say to our sons who were at APS ? That I'm sorry you endured the consequences of the mistakes we committed when you weren't even born.

And I agree with the fencing and even advocate more harder fence and electrified etc. Because we have a situation were the hate is spread among afghanis by indians and by our own mistakes to have supported talibans and then followed USA in their war on terror (terror they created themselves for their own interests).
But what I am adovocating is to try and try again and again to create (not in decade, but why not in 2 or 3 decadesà a friendly Afghanistan ? Is it wrong ?

Pakistan supported Taliban against the Soviets and what we got ? AQ fighters crossed into Pakistan, mostly sheltered by afghans who has committed horrific crimes in Pakistan . We owe them nothing , we have a border and they have to respect or else they can GTFO , or else more of our soldiers will die . One after another Afghans are becoming part of every Anti Pakistan movement such as TTP , PTM etc ...
Despite Pakistan putting enough efforts what did we get in return ? A hostile ANA , Terror supported NDS , RAW agents , countless terrorist acts , Countless attacks on our soldiers , many cities turned into medieval town, etc . Again I keep asking show me one example where Afghans were proved to be any better for Pakistan ? they are been used by Anti state elements like PTM .
We need more Barriers , we have enough of their presences its time to kick them out, send them back if they don't go in peace than kick them out .
this is how the world works .

We supported talibans and we got AQ. Why did we fisrt supported the talibans ? Wasn't it a mistake by itself ? Why others factions were against Pakistan ? What motives their hate of Pakistan ? Who manipulated them if they were ever manipulated ?

Yes we have to cure the disease of terror coming from Afghanistan by fencing the border and to setting strict control. But we have to break the dynamic of hate among Afghans. For that we have to study their mindset, their values etc and then to speak with their own words and make clear as crystal the situation : etheir you continue then you will support the cnsequences of our actions or you change your behaviour. We have to try but continue to improve our security.
Is it wrong to try to break the dynamic of hate ?

Hmm, Tell me something .. If Pakistan did not recognize France, Pakistani's setup colonies in France where French Law enforcement agencies cant go, If Pakistani's kill hundreds of French soldiers, would they allow Pakistani's to come ? would France allow after all that, Pakistani's to come illegally , and after using their hospitals, schools if these Pakistani curse France, and say we don't recognize you , and not just that but conspire with your enemy , will the French Govt let these Pakistan in France? LOL they will kick you out in a heart beat .

One of the solution is fencing the border, then improve the interior security, and of course expell the people found guilty of wrongdoings. That's what France is doing and even striping off the french nationality of some of the terrorists. And if France want to kick me out, they could as I'm Pakistani national and only Pakistani national (no dual national).
But remember even France is not expelling people to country in war situation.
One of the mistake we did was to let the refugees to move freely in all Pakistan. They have their tribal mentality, they have their values and of course their feelings too. So nobody is denying that there are namak haram in whatever community you want, but when cancer is impacting one person, you try to cure this person. But when so many have cancer, you not only try to cure all the persons, but also try to figure out what caused so much cancer.

if you notice, most of the members who are support this Afghan who is trying his best to pretend friend of Pakistan, are all living outside of Pakistan, why don't you all go to your Govts and ask to take in those poor saint Afghans ? All of these Scums living outside Pakistan, supporting Afghans who are killing Pakistani's who dont have resources to live in EU or west, Why don't you go to French Parliament and ask them for more Afghan migrants, same can be done by people who are posting from Canada, or other countries ..
Pakistani's (majority) are fed up of Afghans , and their close ties with India is upsetting everyone .. even after 27th Feb clash Every Afghan i came across supported India, Go and search on twitter and Youtube .
Afghans use disgusting language against Pakistan, and what not, they are abuse Jinnah literally ( calls him maa Behn ki Galiyan ), and yet you who claims to be Pakistani's want us to keep them inside Pakistan? .. So me calling them Filth Pigs are 100% Justified , and we Pakistani's don't want to support them, or see them in Pakistan it is as simple as that .

I'm not french nationality holder so cannot go to french parliment.
But again this is the cancer. Cure it for sure, but also try to figure out what are the causes of this cancer be it from our own side or from afghan side.

@Areesh @dexter @Syed Hammad Ahmed @pakpride00090 Check out the people here supporting Afghans , these are same people who call us Traitors and ask us to go back to India, but the people who are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in Pakistan and counting, Hate Pakistan, don't even recognize Pakistan , Attack Pakistan for every chance they gets, are getting more support than the Urdu speaking people .. This speaks Volume

.

Could you tell me who called you traitor and who told you to go back in india ?



I will quote you your own reply you made to someone :

Even so, they have to live with the decisions their forefathers did ..

aren't we Pakistanis and Afghanis enduring the consequences and the dynamics of what ours did in the past ?

 

[Sine Nomine]

Please tell this friendly Afghan Govt to at least accept Durand Line first .. Than we will talk

There is no Govt there to begin with for almost past 40 years.

 

[YeBeWarned]

There is no Govt there to begin with for almost past 40 years.

Hamid Karzai and Ashraf ghani are your Phuppi ke larke ? They are running a govt, failed yes , corrupt yes but there is a govt ..

 

[pakpride00090]

Something that didn't happen at peak of Pakistan influence in Afghanistan 80's and 90's so it wont happen now ,Generalization based on History and facts is not bad , it might save a lot of lives .. I would rather be safe than sorry, what would you say to those 120+ dead APS children ?



Pakistan supported Taliban against the Soviets and what we got ? AQ fighters crossed into Pakistan, mostly sheltered by afghans who has committed horrific crimes in Pakistan . We owe them nothing , we have a border and they have to respect or else they can GTFO , or else more of our soldiers will die . One after another Afghans are becoming part of every Anti Pakistan movement such as TTP , PTM etc ...
Despite Pakistan putting enough efforts what did we get in return ? A hostile ANA , Terror supported NDS , RAW agents , countless terrorist acts , Countless attacks on our soldiers , many cities turned into medieval town, etc . Again I keep asking show me one example where Afghans were proved to be any better for Pakistan ? they are been used by Anti state elements like PTM .
We need more Barriers , we have enough of their presences its time to kick them out, send them back if they don't go in peace than kick them out .
this is how the world works .



Hmm, Tell me something .. If Pakistan did not recognize France, Pakistani's setup colonies in France where French Law enforcement agencies cant go, If Pakistani's kill hundreds of French soldiers, would they allow Pakistani's to come ? would France allow after all that, Pakistani's to come illegally , and after using their hospitals, schools if these Pakistani curse France, and say we don't recognize you , and not just that but conspire with your enemy , will the French Govt let these Pakistan in France? LOL they will kick you out in a heart beat .

if you notice, most of the members who are support this Afghan who is trying his best to pretend friend of Pakistan, are all living outside of Pakistan, why don't you all go to your Govts and ask to take in those poor saint Afghans ? All of these Scums living outside Pakistan, supporting Afghans who are killing Pakistani's who dont have resources to live in EU or west, Why don't you go to French Parliament and ask them for more Afghan migrants, same can be done by people who are posting from Canada, or other countries ..
Pakistani's (majority) are fed up of Afghans , and their close ties with India is upsetting everyone .. even after 27th Feb clash Every Afghan i came across supported India, Go and search on twitter and Youtube .
Afghans use disgusting language against Pakistan, and what not, they are abuse Jinnah literally ( calls him maa Behn ki Galiyan ), and yet you who claims to be Pakistani's want us to keep them inside Pakistan? .. So me calling them Filth Pigs are 100% Justified , and we Pakistani's don't want to support them, or see them in Pakistan it is as simple as that .

@Areesh @dexter @Syed Hammad Ahmed @pakpride00090 Check out the people here supporting Afghans , these are same people who call us Traitors and ask us to go back to India, but the people who are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in Pakistan and counting, Hate Pakistan, don't even recognize Pakistan , Attack Pakistan for every chance they gets, are getting more support than the Urdu speaking people .. This speaks Volume .



Why don't you take them to America ? I am sure those Millions of Afghans will prefer USA over Pakistan ? ... A person living in US , representing the sentiments of Pakistani's lol



Please tell this friendly Afghan Govt to at least accept Durand Line first .. Than we will talk

Nothing will happen. Pakistani Pashtuns and liberal crowd of Pakistan will keep supporting Afghan terrorists.
One is supporting them due to ethnic affiliation and other wants to look cool.

They don't understand history of Afghan Pak relations. They don't follow the Psyche of Afghans even today

It might be simple ignorance or it might be deliberate because of ethnic affinity

For Pakistani Pashtuns , it is more or less ethnic affiliation.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Hamid Karzai and Ashraf ghani are your Phuppi ke larke ? They are running a govt, failed yes , corrupt yes but there is a govt ..

Mind your tongue.You don't even iota about history of Afghanistan and Pakistan as a region.
Hamid Karzai and Ashraf Ghani are dependent upon US for their own lives.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Mind your tongue.You don't even iota about history of Afghanistan and Pakistan as a region.
Hamid Karzai and Ashraf Ghani are dependent upon US for their own lives.

Dependent on anyone, but they were running Govt . I know the history that is why i am saying we need to kick ever Afghan out of Pakistan and seal the Border .

I understand your point of view totally Bro. It didn't happen in the 80/90's. But why ?

Because Afghans are poisonous snakes and thankless , we help them and the way the repay us is front of everyone to see .

It would have saved lot of lifes if we (Pakistan and Afghanistan included) took the correct decisions, but we (Pakistan and Afghanistan included) did mistakes. What were those mistakes, who made those mistakes and why ?

It would save a lot of lives if we never allowed Afghans in our land, and even if did we should have restrict their movements only to refugee Camps . Our Biggest Mistake was to allow Afghans in our land, let them move across cities ( Thanks to Pashtoons and Political Parties ) .

What i would say to our sons who were at APS ? That I'm sorry you endured the consequences of the mistakes we committed when you weren't even born.

Well than you are equally responsible for the death of the young kids, If we have no Afghans they might still be alive today .

And I agree with the fencing and even advocate more harder fence and electrified etc. Because we have a situation were the hate is spread among afghanis by indians and by our own mistakes to have supported talibans and then followed USA in their war on terror (terror they created themselves for their own interests).
But what I am adovocating is to try and try again and again to create (not in decade, but why not in 2 or 3 decadesà a friendly Afghanistan ? Is it wrong ?

So you are not going to believe that there could be a bad or terrorist or evil Afghan lol if Afghan do something bad to Pakistan, openly show his/her hate but its India's fault ? ahahahhaha
You can advocate for Afghans by sitting in France, why ? why not Advocate for Afghans and take those millions of illegal Afghans to France ? Pakistani's don't want them you love them so take them to France, why you are so eager to push illegal and criminal Afghans into Pakistan when you are not even living in Pakistan ?

We supported talibans and we got AQ. Why did we fisrt supported the talibans ? Wasn't it a mistake by itself ? Why others factions were against Pakistan ? What motives their hate of Pakistan ? Who manipulated them if they were ever manipulated ?

US supported Taliban , we helped them simple .. there were allies who also help in afghan war, how many Afghans are slaughtering Americans ? Saudi's ? they were smart and so they keep Afghanis away from their country, we took them because our Pashtoon have love for them, and they used them for elections etc . No one manipulate them, they were traitor , hateful and dishonest from the beginning .

Yes we have to cure the disease of terror coming from Afghanistan by fencing the border and to setting strict control. But we have to break the dynamic of hate among Afghans. For that we have to study their mindset, their values etc and then to speak with their own words and make clear as crystal the situation : etheir you continue then you will support the cnsequences of our actions or you change your behaviour. We have to try but continue to improve our security.
Is it wrong to try to break the dynamic of hate ?

by living in France ? Again I am asking every single person who is not in Pakistan, go and advocate to your govt to take in these illegal afghans , I am sure they will prefer France, EU , America , Canada over Pakistan, we don't want them in Pakistan, I hope Pakistan fence the border quickly seal it off, and shoot anyone who try to violate our borders .

One of the solution is fencing the border, then improve the interior security, and of course expell the people found guilty of wrongdoings. That's what France is doing and even striping off the french nationality of some of the terrorists. And if France want to kick me out, they could as I'm Pakistani national and only Pakistani national (no dual national).

Good we need to strip legal Afghans from their Pakistani Nationality ,and no country allow millions of people coming illegally , it is only this country which help a snake nation which bite us in the a$$ , and keep biting us .

But remember even France is not expelling people to country in war situation.

How many illegal Afghani's , Algerians are living in France ? Please Enlighten me ?

I'm not french nationality holder so cannot go to french parliment.
But again this is the cancer. Cure it for sure, but also try to figure out what are the causes of this cancer be it from our own side or from afghan side.

Than stop pushing these Afghans down our throats, You are Advocating for Afghans because they haven't killed thousands of French people, they hate us , they don't recognize us, they collaborate with our enemies against us , so yes they are a snake ,dishonest nation from which Pakistan needs to break all kinds of diplomatic ties .

aren't we Pakistanis and Afghanis enduring the consequences and the dynamics of what ours did in the past ?

this was about Indian Muslims, I don't care about them as they insult my Country and Founder of Pakistan, I care about them as much I care about the Afghans , second we are not Afghani's neither like them , so don't compare these uncivilized barbaric people with us .

 

[Sine Nomine]

Dependent on anyone, but they were running Govt . I know the history that is why i am saying we need to kick ever Afghan out of Pakistan and seal the Border .

They can't decide anything on their own.Afghan Govt from past 40 years is total sham.

 

[YeBeWarned]

They can't decide anything on their own.Afghan Govt from past 40 years is total sham.

And so it will be for another 40 years, you know why ? Because they are uncivilized people who will never follow any law other than their Tribal Jirga system, and we don't want millions of Afghans in Pakistan turning Pakistani cities into no Go zones for Its people .
You have any Idea how much Afghans hate Punjabi ? There is a reason they call Pakistan Army , Punjabi Army ..

 

[Sine Nomine]

You have any Idea how much Afghans hate Punjabi ? There is a reason they call Pakistan Army , Punjabi Army ..

They have been in warzone for almost 40 years,a generation has died and two have been born,that has turned them into almost mad dogs who barks on wind.

And so it will be for another 40 years, you know why ? Because they are uncivilized people who will never follow any law other than their Tribal Jirga system, and we don't want millions of Afghans in Pakistan turning Pakistani cities into no Go zones for Its people .

That weak policy of Govt.

 

[YeBeWarned]

They have been in warzone for almost 40 years,a generation has died and two have been born,that has turned them into almost mad dogs who barks on wind.

They brought it upon themselves, so my point is if they are turning into mad dogs, why we should let them into our country ? we have many mad dogs to take care of already ..

That weak policy of Govt.

No, but the way of living , they live by Jirga system, they live under warlords etc . They don't want to let people come in to their country, but they want to go in everyone's .