27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[SQ8]

From the Admins side it must have been the elder as he was a former PAF officer but only spoke to him over the phone. The few times I visited the venue he wasn't there. But the others were very courteous. Loved the work of the lady they hired to do the fresh flower arrangements and decorate the stage. Mind you it costed us few lacs more than what the Blue Lagoon in Sadar quoted.

In terms of aesthetics and even refinement urban Pakistan has advanced leaps and bounds. Some of the restaurants in Pakistan serve western cuisine that would make michelin star chefs nervous. And I say that with no exaggeration having done Ramsey’s joint and Benu(3 star) in California.

 

[Windjammer]

In terms of aesthetics and even refinement urban Pakistan has advanced leaps and bounds. Some of the restaurants in Pakistan serve western cuisine that would make michelin star chefs nervous. And I say that with no exaggeration having done Ramsey’s joint and Benu(3 star) in California.

The individually foiled wrapped chunks of meat alone deserve 3 Stars.

 

[JawadKKhan]

Waoo this thread still active to humiliate indians forever

Had written below for another post, but thats relevant here:

27 Feb was the day! Clear domination of PAF! In response of few trees, PAF showed its immense capabilities next day in broad day light at highest level of indian air alert. That's literally telling indians who is the Boss!

Our H-4s delivered complete message to india and had you killed anyone in Pakistan instead of few trees, see our H-4 missiles would have blasted through your Brigade HQs. We showed actual weapon footages of H-4s unlike indians who completely failed to give a single evidence of Balakot. When Reuters, MAXAR, Australian report, EU space imaging all of them confirmed with 100% certainty that all indian bombs fell away, The indian media came to rescue sentiments of indians by giving most comical explanation that multiple 2000 lbs bombs from 50 kms away made a delicate hole in the roof and ordinary feeble house kept standing in the face of immense shockwave, weight, momentum.. This spin has actually given us the opportunity to humiliate indians for eternity for their IQ level.

 

[Windjammer]

I reckon that was in relation to Pakistan bombing territory that Ind claims as its own. However, it makes little sense for them to protest in this manner when they themselves bombed sovereign Pakistani territory just a day earlier. Maybe you are right in this context, and taking shot/s at acs deep within Ind controlled airspace is what made them make a statement that otherwise makes zero sense.

I'm sure you will agree that there is a world of difference between SU-30 and MiG-21 yet Nauman was awarded SJ while Hassan the Sukhoi slayer just got SB. like India we weren't going to bomb some civilian entity so the action was taken against Indian military which was the actual aggressor.

 

[khanasifm]

Can someone re shared the video of Indian media reporting MKi shot down by paf before they took it off due to political and other pressure ?

 

[khanasifm]

 

[Reichmarshal]

I'm sure you will agree that there is a world of difference between SU-30 and MiG-21 yet Nauman was awarded SJ while Hassan the Sukhoi slayer just got SB. like India we weren't going to bomb some civilian entity so the action was taken against Indian military which was the actual aggressor.

hassan saddique was awarded Tamgha-i-Jurat

 

[PanzerKiel]

It is said that our AD assets were not activated in AJK. We were expecting something in Punjab proper. It was an intelligence failure, if true. The more troubling prospect is the assets being active in AJK, but as the Indians claim, were jammed. A lot of ink has been spilt on the events of 27th Feb, but for our sake, I think we must look at the events of 26th Feb more closely. Why were any losses not inflicted on the opposing side that day? On 27th feb, Indians might have known that our leaders lack the will to launch a strike across the IB (they did bomb sovereign Pakistani territory, not AJK), so they concentrated their vigil in IoK. That gave them an opportunity to give chase to our strikers which resulted in the final melee. We were not able to do so either due to faulty intelligence, or our CAPs being stretched thin by foe's diversionary tactics, or our AD assets being jammed successfully.

The exact reason PAF didn't engage on 26 Feb, even though they could have, is entirely different.

 

[Windjammer]

hassan saddique was awarded Tamgha-i-Jurat

Still below Sitara-e-Jurat.
The whole purpose of the point I'm making.

 

[Areesh]

https://imgur.com/a/9f2CTJ1

I fail to understand who and where they come up with these type of lies. If this is the narrative being fed by the Indian Air Force, then I doubt anyone takes them seriously on a professional level other than what they are trying to sell to their public.

And after all this only thing that SU30 MKI managed to achieve was this:

 

[SIPRA]

Still below Sitara-e-Jurat.
The whole purpose of the point I'm making.

I think that SU-30 was hit, but survived and possibly crash landed.

 

[Windjammer]

I think that SU-30 was hit, but survived and possibly crash landed.

Nopes, not the reason either.

 

[JawadKKhan]

Nopes, not the reason either.

Unfortunately there is no real photo / video confirmation of SU-30. In the eyes of the world, only confirmed kill in whole scenario was mig-21. Pilot had a lock, fired a missile but in the end there is no debris photo. World only call these kills as "claims" but not confirmed.
Perhaps, Airforce gives priority to confirmed kills which can shown as a trophy to entire world. After all the weightage of confirmed kill as a trophy served lot more national interests.

However, I am certain that SU-30 was shot down as that can be the sole reason that other SU-30s never challenged PAF after seeing the fate of one of their prime jets. Secondly, search & rescue heli to be rushed is another indication. Lastly. no counter claim evidence made by india. like for Pakistan, PAF immediately gave most reputed neutral count of F-16s, showed 4 AAMs along with the debris. Nothing of such level of credibility which can completely reject PAF claim were made by india.

 

[Tornado23]

The exact reason PAF didn't engage on 26 Feb, even though they could have, is entirely different.

Do pray tell?

 

[Reichmarshal]

Still below Sitara-e-Jurat.
The whole purpose of the point I'm making.

Difference between a visually confirmed kill n a non visually confirmed kill

The exact reason PAF didn't engage on 26 Feb, even though they could have, is entirely different.

They did engage at very long distances.