27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Windjammer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1463945051252445193

 

[Myth_buster_1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1463945051252445193

Hopefully they provide images of when both R73s were recovered along with wreckage. Indians still believe pakistan purchased an r73 from china or ebay and later displayed it.

 

[Windjammer]

Hopefully they provide images of when both R73s were recovered along with wreckage. Indians still believe pakistan purchased an r73 from china or ebay and later displayed it.

Albeit, when the Swift Retort took place, it was ACM Mujaid Anwar Khan in command of the PAF. I met him by coincidence in Qatar in July 2019.....Five months after the PAF operation. His staff member took my details including my e-mail . I was given the impression that all the details would be released in due course.....including some imagery. Even Kaiser Tufail, after being given initial briefings on Swift Retort was denied any further information.....PAF obviously doesn't want to give away too much.

 

[TsAr]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1463945051252445193

I don't think anything of significance would come out of this interview. Sohail Aman was retired at time of swift retort. If PAF wanted to release something they could have done through AM Waqas Sulehri or ISPR

Albeit, when the Swift Retort took place, it was ACM Mujaid Anwar Khan in command of the PAF. I met him by coincidence in Qatar in July 2019.....Five months after the PAF operation. His staff member took my details including my e-mail . I was given the impression that all the details would be released in due course.....including some imagery. Even Kaiser Tufail, after being given initial briefings on Swift Retort was denied any further information.....PAF obviously doesn't want to give away too much.

I am sure details were taken for record keeping. Obviously something changed and they decided not to divulge any further details, but you never know.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Albeit, when the Swift Retort took place, it was ACM Mujaid Anwar Khan in command of the PAF. I met him by coincidence in Qatar in July 2019.....Five months after the PAF operation. His staff member took my details including my e-mail . I was given the impression that all the details would be released in due course.....including some imagery. Even Kaiser Tufail, after being given initial briefings on Swift Retort was denied any further information.....PAF obviously doesn't want to give away too much.

I just want imagies of second r73 found along with wreckage. This will shut up iaf fanboys.

 

[Trango Towers]

the funniest bit of the whole incident was when abhinandan land, the first person on the scene was this whitty old man, abhinadan asked him if he had landed in India or Pakistan, to this the old man replied india.
on hearing this abhinandan let out a huge cry of jayhind.
to this the baba jee replied in perfect pahari "thair tui maa dasah jayhind", n the rest is history, abhi received a beating of a life time at the hands of ordinary folks.

Yes and look at the smart old man....he is the real hero

 

[PanzerKiel]

what if the "about to be released info" also has proofs of Su-30 going down.....i mean they didnt award anything to ANY Su 30 pilots who participated in their op, we have got AMRAAM dodgers but nothing for AMRAAM EATERS....it really takes guts to fly into an incoming AMRAAM.....more than dodging.....

 

[TsAr]

what if the "about to be released info" also has proofs of Su-30 going down.....i mean they didnt award anything to ANY Su 30 pilots who participated in their op, we have got AMRAAM dodgers but nothing for AMRAAM EATERS....it really takes guts to fly into an incoming AMRAAM.....more than dodging.....

They did roll out these patches.

 

[Oracle]

is there any western / neutral aviation expert analysis on 2nd aircraft downing ?

 

[Raider 21]

Albeit, when the Swift Retort took place, it was ACM Mujaid Anwar Khan in command of the PAF. I met him by coincidence in Qatar in July 2019.....Five months after the PAF operation. His staff member took my details including my e-mail . I was given the impression that all the details would be released in due course.....including some imagery. Even Kaiser Tufail, after being given initial briefings on Swift Retort was denied any further information.....PAF obviously doesn't want to give away too much.

Mujahid Anwar Khan currently is in Canada. He doesn't say anything further than what was done that day, and frankly I respect his candid humour where he mentioned he would not want to talk anything more ops related to PAF, and more about life in general. A man of great accomplishments, yet very humble. They reveal more info amongst their seniors by word of mouth, yet most have respected in staying quiet about it. KT was a loudmouth a little too early, and had to change his blog a few times.

Having spoken to a PAF Mirage driver last night, even he says it is a claim regarding an Su-30 shootdown. A claim will remain a claim until concrete evidence is provided.

 

[Windjammer]

Mujahid Anwar Khan currently is in Canada. He doesn't say anything further than what was done that day, and frankly I respect his candid humour where he mentioned he would not want to talk anything more ops related to PAF, and more about life in general. A man of great accomplishments, yet very humble. They reveal more info amongst their seniors by word of mouth, yet most have respected in staying quiet about it. KT was a loudmouth a little too early, and had to change his blog a few times.

Having spoken to a PAF Mirage driver last night, even he says it is a claim regarding an Su-30 shootdown. A claim will remain a claim until concrete evidence is provided.

Many people both in and out of PAF are oblivious to the hardcore facts of that day as what really happened that made India go Berserk, calling it an act of war and threatening missile strikes in desperation.
On a lighter note, I need to remind Mujaid Anwar Sahib about a discount I was supposed to get for hiring Capri Marque services situated near Nur Khan base.

 

[SQ8]

what if the "about to be released info" also has proofs of Su-30 going down.....i mean they didnt award anything to ANY Su 30 pilots who participated in their op, we have got AMRAAM dodgers but nothing for AMRAAM EATERS....it really takes guts to fly into an incoming AMRAAM.....more than dodging.....

I don’t think it would matter as such. If you were LockMart, Raytheon or the congressman or from Dassault sponsoring a $1 billion sale then you are likely to nod for your customer. Same reason their state could gas 1 million Kashmiris in the last ten years and still get celebrated at the Met Gala while you could have had a criminal kill a single Christian and be sanctioned for HR violations citing 1971 as historical proof.

The realization that has come soo late to all think tanks in Pakistan is that money talks and everyone else can take their principles and shove them where the ISSB physical exam takes a peek.

Sure, there are geopolitical factors as well - the United States wants no competition as the sole superpower and China is the target. All other “principles “ and relationships are tertiary.

 

[TsAr]

Many people both in and out of PAF are oblivious to the hardcore facts of that day as what really happened that made India go Berserk, calling it an act of war and threatening missile strikes in desperation.
On a lighter note, I need to remind Mujaid Anwar Sahib about a discount I was supposed to get for hiring Capri Marque services situated near Nur Khan base.

Capri Marquee on Rawal Road besides RIC

 

[Windjammer]

Capri Marquee on Rawal Road besides RIC

It was afternoon of first week in August, had to wear suit and Tie and then stand in the sweltering heat to welcome guests, could see regular incoming and outgoing flights of C-130s but the food was good and staff attentive.

 

[TsAr]

It was afternoon of first week in August, had to wear suit and Tie and then stand in the sweltering heat to welcome guests, could see regular incoming and outgoing flights of C-130s but the food was good and staff attentive.

I happen to know one of the owners.