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27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

Your thoughts @airomerix on the possibilities mentioned >here< and >here<.

I went through those posts.

Right now there is one route from South East towards North which Indian airliners are using to reach China. There is a diagonal path which heads towards Pakistan for some time. It has happend atleast twice or thrice when IAF jets have broken away from the cover of this commercial jet.

The reason is simple. They know PAF fighters or air defense will not engage them unless they cross into 5 nm of the border. So they are doing all sort of cheap tricks. So following this assumption, they consider the passengers to be safe.

Also during the month of Ramadan they tend to do these exercises since this is the time when they know PAF might not be at its full strength at a given time. Especially closer to Eid. On the night of 27th Ramdan there was some activity of similar nature.
 
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I went through those posts.

Right now there is one route from South East towards North which Indian airliners are using to reach China. There is a diagonal path which heads towards Pakistan for some time. It has happend atleast twice or thrice when IAF jets have been broken away from the cover of this commercial jet.

The reason is simple. They know PAF fighters or air defense will not engage them unless they cross into 5 nm of the border. So they are doing all sort of cheap tricks. So following this assumption, they consider the passengers to be safe.

Also during the month of Ramadan they tend to do these exercises since this is the time when they PAF might not be at its full strength at a given time. Especially closer to Eid. On the night of 27th Ramdan there was some activity of similar nature.



Mighty Indian armed forces have announced five lack Rs reward for finding their AN32. Should we put a reward for their Sukhoi???
Let’s do crowd funding
 
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The way transparency works in India; I doubt we will see anything of that sort especially with their national accountability institutions(historically stronger than hours) being compromised with the current nationalist fervor and political tainting.

How come a fresh MKI can be added without change in number at catalog? Like Vipers have all the trail and can't be replaced without new number. Also, if a damaged MKI still managed to land in one piece, am sure repair work wouldn't be shared at all. In both cases, Indians are in better position to hide except for an Intel leak of MKI being shot and debris seen.
 
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How come a fresh MKI can be added without change in number at catalog? Like Vipers have all the trail and can't be replaced without new number. Also, if a damaged MKI still managed to land in one piece, am sure repair work wouldn't be shared at all. In both cases, Indians are in better position to hide except for an Intel leak of MKI being shot and debris seen.

It is in the best interest of Russians to let Indians save face. So a fresh MKI addition is not a big deal. Also there are atleast a two dozen airframes still unserviceable of MKI. Any one of those can be repaired and brought back to service.

Its not the same case with Pakistan. Pak-US relationship is not even close to Indo-US relationship. Let alone Indo-Russia.
 
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@airomerix with recent developments and visible Indian interest and lobby towards America don't you think Russia would be judging the situation with more open frame set of mind
 
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@airomerix with recent developments and visible Indian interest and lobby towards America don't you think Russia would be judging the situation with more open frame set of mind
Indians have their eggs in Russian basket too. India is still the second largest importer of arms from Russia.

Russian economy is struggling. Pakistan cannot be seen as an alternative in terms of economics. Until or unless Russians see value in CPEC. Our only chance.

The salaries of Indian armed forces exceed our entire defense budget. That is the scale we are talking about.
 
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It is in the best interest of Russians to let Indians save face. So a fresh MKI addition is not a big deal. Also there are atleast a two dozen airframes still unserviceable of MKI. Any one of those can be repaired and brought back to service.

Its not the same case with Pakistan. Pak-US relationship is not even close to Indo-US relationship. Let alone Indo-Russia.

Exactly.. They have airframes and even, one is done in face saving exercise while there is no counting. Just a matter of time. Interestingly, they didn't even speak of MKI at all and kept quiet over it. Russian FM was in Islamabad on the same day of 27th Feb.
 
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Waw Nyc quality...
 
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