27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Comet]

I'm not bothered, believe what you want.

It was joke sire....

 

[Signalian]

It was joke sire....

There is a professional on this forum. BilalKhan777.
Check his posts. You will find he congratulated 9th Squadron the next morning.

Although he is not from where i got information, but it just became a confirmation for me.

 

[BHarwana]

Can you please provide a little bit more details for the novice in me?

Pakistan evaluated Mig 21 in a middle eastern nation against Pakistani F-7 to see the capabilities of Soviet origin Mig-21 over F-7 and we have been doing this for very long time because Mig-21 is the interceptor that India has and is basically the first jet Pakistan will face while performing any mission over Indian air space. JF-17 was designed to deter this threat effectively and engage Indian Air Superiority threat of SU-30MKI and Mirage 2000 in an electronic warfare environment. As know from recent Indian media reports that Pakistan has deployed its F-16 After February engagements and this is the proof here. India on one hand claim that Pakistan has deployed F-16 recently and on the other hand claims that we were using them before. Here is evidence in IAF own statement that Pakistan just deployed F-16 and IAF needs more ammo.

Stories

IAF asks for fresh ammo as Pakistan moves up
F16s, takes terror camps to FATA

 

[Cornered Tiger]

F-16s are normally deployed for CAPs. JF-17s from No.14 and 16 were the part of strike package along with Mirages from No.25

 

[The Accountant]

Pakistan evaluated Mig 21 in a middle eastern nation against Pakistani F-7 to see the capabilities of Soviet origin Mig-21 over F-7 and we have been doing this for very long time because Mig-21 is the interceptor that India has and is basically the first jet Pakistan will face while performing any mission over Indian air space. JF-17 was designed to deter this threat effectively and engage Indian Air Superiority threat of SU-30MKI and Mirage 2000 in an electronic warfare environment. As know from recent Indian media reports that Pakistan has deployed its F-16 After February engagements and this is the proof here. India on one hand claim that Pakistan has deployed F-16 recently and on the other hand claims that we were using them before. Here is evidence in IAF own statement that Pakistan just deployed F-16 and IAF needs more ammo.

Stories
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IAF asks for fresh ammo as Pakistan moves up
F16s, takes terror camps to FATA

Agreed but F16s were present at that day , they were not involved in bombing or escort mission but was on backup plan deep inside our air space to support if things get hot which eventually went ... Remember it was PAF planned mission and PAF was dictating the rules of engagement ...

When DG ISPR stated that F16s not involved in today's assault he was right as F16s were not part of strike package but they can be on air defence operations ...

 

[Secret Service]

From where you got this info that it was SQ 9?

Its true. Griffins made all the kills that day.

 

[GumNaam]

Agreed but F16s were present at that day , they were not involved in bombing or escort mission but was on backup plan deep inside our air space to support if things get hot which eventually went ... Remember it was PAF planned mission and PAF was dictating the rules of engagement ...

When DG ISPR stated that F16s not involved in today's assault he was right as F16s were not part of strike package but they can be on air defence operations ...

well said, good point.

 

[Comet]

Its true. Griffins made all the kills that day.

S/L Hassan Siddiqui is credited with at-least 1 Kill that day. Shortly after the kill, the pilot and his ground crew were shown in a video chanting Pakistan Zindabad standing near J-17. So, if S/L Hassan made the kill, he probably did it in JF-17.

 

[BHarwana]

Agreed but F16s were present at that day , they were not involved in bombing or escort mission but was on backup plan deep inside our air space to support if things get hot which eventually went ... Remember it was PAF planned mission and PAF was dictating the rules of engagement ...

When DG ISPR stated that F16s not involved in today's assault he was right as F16s were not part of strike package but they can be on air defence operations ...

There were 3 engagements that day. JF-17 package was in north. The F-16 package was over okara Sahiwal sector and Bhawalpur sector. Yes there were other assets deployed that day from AWACS to surveillance and ground coordination team. Such missions have very extended tails. F-16s were there on back up from being in air to fueled and loaded on runways. I agree.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

If F-16 is true it may be related to Exxon Mobil, which is also Texas based as is Lockheed Martin...

Imran Bey is a Bahtiyar fellow - my main line of arguement....

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Anything is possible, but we look for whats probable. To my eyes, this looks like a classic 2 seater Sukhoi type aircraft in vertical spin. I enclose an image of similar situation.
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The trailing edge of the wings is dead straight. It’s either a Mig 21, F-16 or a Mirage.

 

[SQ8]

The trailing edge of the wings is dead straight. It’s either a Mig 21, F-16 or a Mirage.

Or just debris. Not sure how in such a pixelated section of the image you made out trailing edge angles.. biased speculation galore

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Or just debris.

Could be.
To my eyes I see a fuselage and wings.

 

[SQ8]

Could be.
To my eyes I see a fuselage and wings.

We are all biased in our vision

 

[Sine Nomine]

Whatever PAF did to them, whats public and what is still private, they will remain deterred. PAF has effectively shown, through better planning, judgement, and a bit of luck, that Indian Air Force developments and acquisitions are null and void, for now. How much time do they take to recover? Rafael is taking to Tejas, and as soon as they come up with something, they will call me. By that time, PAF's other cards will be mature and flying.

Nodoubt Sir,PAF has done more then nation has given.I am sure BLK 3 would turn Rafael bootless.