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27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

You highly, highly underestimate F-16 just on the basis of the time of its initial production. The F-16 has undergone immense changes since that time, it is a very much capable aircraft. And the flankers don't have unmatched manoeuvrability, the F-16 was made for Dogfighting, the SU-30MKI was not, although thrust vectoring helps, the F-16 still will dominate the dogfight.

And even for BVR engagements, like I said, F-16 isn't the aircraft of 80s, it is just as capable as the SU-30MKI, it also has the ability to launch such missiles and can have a high range, it comes down to the mods used for the plane, as in the radars and stuff.

You go and tell any fighter enthusiast that F-16 is obsolete and stand zero chance against the likes of flankers, rafales and even mig 29's, and they will hit you right across you face with a hard slap.

The witness to the competitiveness of F-16s is the USAF itself, the Israeli Air Force, and the Greece Air Force.

The USAF to this date, uses F-16s, although phased out its procurement, as it moves onto the fifth generation fighters, the F-16 are still considered really valuable, being used highly in Middle East and Afghanistan.
The Israeli Air Force, for virtually all its known air-based operations and raids, used the F-16, there were several right ups on this, with the Russians even getting mad at Israel at one point.
The Greece Air Force has excelled with the F-16s in their KDR ratios, even scoring really well against F-35's in NATO exercises, they are renowned for their air force due to their good performance in NATO exercises.

You really showed your knowledge regarding Aircrafts by bringing up their initial production time into your argument, it's completely invalid in this case. Turkey, USAF, Greece, Israel, Pakistan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, and many more, aren't retards to dump a whole lot of their budgets for fleets of F-16, its success and upgradation, followed by competitiveness why its still being developed further; check latest procurement by Taiwan.

Oh comeon now, you are talking like a fool now. Perhaps you have no idea of what a flanker is, it will swat f16s like flies. only a foll with a death wish will take a f16 to fight off a flanker. And there is a difference between an enthusiast and a professional. Our air force has evaluated and have rejected the f16 as it does not provide any significant advantage over the existing aircraft of our arsenal.

And all the countries that you have mentioned are not as powerful militarily as India is, they can do with inferior the aircraft we cannot.
 
Oh comeon now, you are talking like a fool now. Perhaps you have no idea of what a flanker is, it will swat f16s like flies. only a foll with a death wish will take a f16 to fight off a flanker. And there is a difference between an enthusiast and a professional. Our air force has evaluated and have rejected the f16 as it does not provide any significant advantage over the existing aircraft of our arsenal.

And all the countries that you have mentioned are not as powerful militarily as India is, they can do with inferior the aircraft we cannot.
Please make a separate thread for dck measuring. Stop derailing the thread.
 
Actually I don't really watch Indian media except for some decent channels like WION. I think the Jaish thought it would be another attack which would result in single digit deaths. India is kind of immune to such constant attacks. They did not expect 40 +. Do Indians want war? Some do, some don't. Do they want some form of closure or retribution? Yes. It is only natural.

Jaish Leader has denied the attacks , there is no reason to doubt it , if IA has significant evidence they should provide to Pakistan, IK will be happy to deal with them , he is not very fond of religious extremism nor people who create hurdles in Pakistan's economic growth , look at TLP Khadim Rizvi as example .
 
Jaish Leader has denied the attacks , there is no reason to doubt it , if IA has significant evidence they should provide to Pakistan, IK will be happy to deal with them , he is not very fond of religious extremism nor people who create hurdles in Pakistan's economic growth , look at TLP Khadim Rizvi as example .
Please keep it specific to the border intrusion. Report those who're derailing the thread.
 
I'm just hoping history doesn't repeat itself, I would do anything to avoid a war. Pakistan & India need more trade between each other to reduce these situations, prime example being France & Germany. Thank you for your condolences.

My sincere condolences. But millions of other families have also lost their loved ones across Indo Pak, and most of them were very poor. This is a war, and wars have been always brutal specially when they are caused by maniacal obsession of religious bigotry.

I want our generation to close all doors on each other. Not even talk and meet at international forums. I even want to not teach our kids in school about other country and leave a blue space on the map.
And let our grand kids decided whether they would like to gel along or not.
 
one twitter account saying they done air strikes in muzaffarabad.what the hell! if they did something then where is our response? i can't believe this.
 
The Jets were near BalaKot , and Terbela Water Dam is near by
Abbotabad was there as well

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My sincere condolences. But millions of other families have also lost their loved ones across Indo Pak, and most of them were very poor. This is a war, and wars have been always brutal specially when they are caused by maniacal obsession of religious bigotry.

I want our generation to close all doors on each other. Not even talk and meet at international forums. I even want to not teach our kids in school about other country and leave a blue space on the map.
And let our grand kids decided whether they would like to gel along or not.

You can start by not frequenting Pakistani forums.
 

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