27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Wa Muhammada]

Something is cocking again...FM says we have to be extremely cautious till MAY 18. Indians may try another attempt for public consumption.

Airforce extremely active where I am today ...won’t name the area Due to OSEINT

 

[NA71]

couple of interesting points in this video
eye witnesses saying that;

They saw a Pakistani plane being shot down which fell just across the LOC.

Wreckage of the plane can be viewed from IOK as it fell on the hill top which is just across.

Indian media team not allowed by Indian army to go over the hill on Indian side to take a look across on the supposed wreckage of Pakistani plane, as the area on Indian side has been cordoned off by military.

Can some one please shed some light on it.
If the wreck is just across, the Indian military could easily photograph it. why havent they?
OR
are the witnesses lying?
OR
was it actually an Indian plane that fell down on Indian side and Indian military then cordoned off the area?



PS
if this is an incident/video that has been discussed earlier by the members then please pardon my ignorance.

if it is propaganda war video...ask channel 92/BOL/24 News to interview few villagers and upload counter video of downing 2 more IAF jets....

I posted 2 days ago....Indians have been uploading similar videos, news articles, YT clips showing lies lies lies with fake photos, experts opinions .... General public just being intoxicated.

 

[Comfortably Numb]

if it is propaganda war video...ask channel 92/BOL/24 News to interview few villagers and upload counter video of downing 2 more IAF jets....

you missed my point

never mind

 

[NA71]

you missed my point

never mind

No i got it....If it was indeed Pakistani Planes Indian cricket team would have its photos on their shirts....they are gone crazy to that extent.

 

[Comfortably Numb]

No i got it....If it was indeed Pakistani Planes Indian cricket team would have its photos on their shirts....they are gone crazy to that extent.

lol. Exactly

Then there is the other possibility of eyewitnesses being right about seeing a plane go down and it was actually an Indian one. Explains the access being denied to media people in this video. And if that is the case, it can very well be the second jet caimed to be downed by Pakistan.
cheers

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

lol. Exactly

Then there is the other possibility of eyewitnesses being right about seeing a plane go down and it was actually an Indian one. Explains the access being denied to media people in this video.

If the video is true and there is wreckage of a plane on the Indian side of LoC, and the Indian military is denying access, it HAS to be an Indian plane. Otherwise the Indian government would have already plastered images across the media and their defense minister wouldn’t have had to resort to mentioning a debunked Facebook post as evidence for shooting down a Pakistani plane at a press conference.

Maybe they’re trying to paint the Pakistani flag on the wreckage before allowing the media access

 

[NA71]

lol. Exactly

Then there is the other possibility of eyewitnesses being right about seeing a plane go down and it was actually an Indian one. Explains the access being denied to media people in this video. And if that is the case, it can very well be the second jet caimed to be downed by Pakistan.
cheers

I think this vid referring another incident post FEB 27....correct me. The irony is that IAF will attempt another incursion sooner or later to regain its position in the eyes of its own military realm

 

[Comfortably Numb]

If the video is true and there is wreckage of a plane on the Indian side of LoC, and the Indian military is denying access, it HAS to be an Indian plane. Otherwise the Indian government would have already plastered images across the media and their defense minister wouldn’t have had to resort to mentioning a debunked Facebook post as evidence for shooting down a Pakistani plane at a press conference.

Maybe they’re trying to paint the Pakistani flag on the wreckage before allowing the media access

Exactly. If it indeed was a Pakistani jet then Indians could have got pictures through cameras from their side or drones even as the wreck is said to have fallen just across LOC. They could photograph smoke rising from the wreck. They havent produced anything of the kind and instead restricted access to the area on their side of the border. Thus one could speculate about the Indian military trying to hide something there.

 

[HRK]

couple of interesting points in this video
eye witnesses saying that;

They saw a Pakistani plane being shot down which fell just across the LOC.

Wreckage of the plane can be viewed from IOK as it fell on the hill top which is just across.

Indian media team not allowed by Indian army to go over the hill on Indian side to take a look across on the supposed wreckage of Pakistani plane, as the area on Indian side has been cordoned off by military.

Can some one please shed some light on it.
If the wreck is just across, the Indian military could easily photograph it. why havent they?
OR
are the witnesses lying?
OR
was it actually an Indian plane that fell down on Indian side and Indian military then cordoned off the area?



PS
if this is an incident/video that has been discussed earlier by the members then please pardon my ignorance.

Do you think they are "Local Civilians"

its a civilian who is standing in this style at LOC

First person name Manjeet "Kumar" .....

Local villager speaking in civilian language like
- Gushat laga rahe the
- Zeor Line
- Strike kiya

Second person
- Pilot exit ho gaya
- Parachute ke zariya Land kar gaya

And biggest give away is that the first person said he saw the jet falling at the next hill top in Pakistani side of LOC and he saw it himself mean he (the CIVILIAN Person) was on the hill at Indian side of LOC ....

How the residents of Indian state UP could be terms as local resident of LOC ......

 

[Comfortably Numb]

I think this vid referring another incident post FEB 27....correct me.

it was uploaded to youtube on 27th

Do you think they are "Local Civilians"

its a civilian who is standing in this style at LOCView attachment 546895

First person name Manjeet "Kumar" .....

Local villager speaking in civilian language like
- Gushat laga rahe the
- Zeor Line
- Strike kiya

Second person
- Pilot exit ho gaya
- Parachute ke zariya Land kar gaya

And biggest give away is that the first person said he saw the jet falling at the next hill top in Pakistani side of LOC and he saw it himself mean he (the CIVILIAN Person) was on the hill at Indian side of LOC ....

How the residents of Indian state UP could be terms as local resident of LOC ......

true
i noticed that too. that is why i listed the possibilty of "witnesses" lying. It is one or the other.

 

[Vortex]

Do you think they are "Local Civilians"

its a civilian who is standing in this style at LOCView attachment 546895

First person name Manjeet "Kumar" .....

Local villager speaking in civilian language like
- Gushat laga rahe the
- Zeor Line
- Strike kiya

Second person
- Pilot exit ho gaya
- Parachute ke zariya Land kar gaya

And biggest give away is that the first person said he saw the jet falling at the next hill top in Pakistani side of LOC and he saw it himself mean he (the CIVILIAN Person) was on the hill at Indian side of LOC ....

How the residents of Indian state UP could be terms as local resident of LOC ......

Zabardast !

 

[HAIDER]

Do you think they are "Local Civilians"

its a civilian who is standing in this style at LOCView attachment 546895

First person name Manjeet "Kumar" .....

Local villager speaking in civilian language like
- Gushat laga rahe the
- Zeor Line
- Strike kiya

Second person
- Pilot exit ho gaya
- Parachute ke zariya Land kar gaya

And biggest give away is that the first person said he saw the jet falling at the next hill top in Pakistani side of LOC and he saw it himself mean he (the CIVILIAN Person) was on the hill at Indian side of LOC ....

How the residents of Indian state UP could be terms as local resident of LOC ......

Indian Intelligence military officers ..

 

[HRK]

Indian Intelligence military officers ..

may be but gain these much stupidity .... ?? I don't think

I am more inclined to believe they are from NCOs, subedar or jawan cadre, they does not appear sharp enough to be in intelligence services

 

[The Eagle]

Do you think they are "Local Civilians"

its a civilian who is standing in this style at LOCView attachment 546895

First person name Manjeet "Kumar" .....

Local villager speaking in civilian language like
- Gushat laga rahe the
- Zeor Line
- Strike kiya

Second person
- Pilot exit ho gaya
- Parachute ke zariya Land kar gaya

And biggest give away is that the first person said he saw the jet falling at the next hill top in Pakistani side of LOC and he saw it himself mean he (the CIVILIAN Person) was on the hill at Indian side of LOC ....

How the residents of Indian state UP could be terms as local resident of LOC ......

The Drama Queen label is not earned suddenly rather, it comes after a lot of practice, rehearsal & repetition. As far as Pakistanis have learnt them, Indians will firstly create a basic story like random narration, then will pick few points, will stage another gathering over that and to connect dots, will bring in more witness to prove the first stage random evidence. So all in all, they create evidence and start bragging over it. I see that video as yet another breaking news for many days unless, Modi wins election at least.

 

[Jinn Baba]

couple of interesting points in this video
eye witnesses saying that;

They saw a Pakistani plane being shot down which fell just across the LOC.

Wreckage of the plane can be viewed from IOK as it fell on the hill top which is just across.

Indian media team not allowed by Indian army to go over the hill on Indian side to take a look across on the supposed wreckage of Pakistani plane, as the area on Indian side has been cordoned off by military.

Can some one please shed some light on it.
If the wreck is just across, the Indian military could easily photograph it. why havent they?
OR
are the witnesses lying?
OR
was it actually an Indian plane that fell down on Indian side and Indian military then cordoned off the area?



PS
if this is an incident/video that has been discussed earlier by the members then please pardon my ignorance.

1) most Indians including Indian media think Pakistani F16s and JF17s are IAF jets - look at the videos they post or air. So what's to say that these locals knew any better? What they saw was likely a JF17 shooting a Mig 21.

2) these locals saw a plane being blown out the sky with one pilot ejecting - mig 21 had a single pilot. Everything we have heard from Indians about an alleged PAF jet being shot down was that it was a F16D with two pilots. Does this not contradict everything Indians have said so far? Has the story now changed?

Humiliated Indians are only further embarrassing themselves to the rest of the world. 350+ MKI, 29s and 2Ks and they have still been unable to respond to the PAF strike and downing of their jets

Waisay, there is another Indian video: