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Azerbaijan is small:
13 MiG-29
5 MiG-25
5 MiG-21
11 Su-24
11 Su-25
67 points compare to Iran's 272.
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Azerbaijan is small:
Your ranking is still silly and appears to be based upon a purely unrealistic hypothetical scenario where entire air force A fights entire air force B in some magical air force arena.
No, the RAF played a rather vital role - the Vulcan bombing raid for example! The strategic air lift of troops, supplies and munitions to RAF Accession and the fact that 14 RAF Harriers were deployed alongside 28 FAA Harriers! 1/3rd of combat aircraft were therefore RAF... not a "very very minor role" eh? Wrong again, Argentina's air force was considered highly capable in 1982 and vastly out numbered the 14 RAF and 28 FAA subsonic harriers with around 130 available aircraft of its own many of those considered to be among the most capable air superiority fighters at the time.
Britain maintains two military bases in Cyprus, including a large air force base (RAF Akrotiri) which is also shared by the Americans. The RAF would emerge victor in such a campaign to rid Cyprus of any Turkish presence. Typhoon is leagues ahead of Turkeys watered down F-16's, and would dominate the conflict -Turkey would only have a slight numbers advantage. Oops and Turkey presently has no AEW&C ROFL. Tornado GR4s also operate standoff weaponry such a Storm-shadow cruise missiles, any Turkish forces station on the island would be crippled beyond the point of fighting very early on in the conflict. Also any air force bases close to the coast on the Turkish mainland would be vulnerable to Storm-shadow attacks as the Tornado GR4 can offload its cruise missiles 250+ kms away at a safe distance (hence a standoff weapon), the Typhoon would escort the Tornado GR4s in the unlikely event Turkey managed to muster some F-16s in a counter attack.
Surely tho, in any real conflict such as this the Royal Navy would be present. This would complicate things even further with a combination of Typhoons and type 45 destroyers denying Turkish F-16s any access in the air space over Cyprus... the Royal Navys Astute and Trafalgar class nuclear powered submarines would pose such a deadly threat that no Turkish admiral in his right mind would put to sea. The Astute and Trafalgar class nuclear powered submarines are also equipped with Tomahawk cruise missiles with 2,000 km ranges... just like the Tornado GR4s Storm-shadow cruise missiles, the Tomahawks would be used to strike Turkish air bases close to Cyprus to further cripple Turkeys ability to deploy more F-16s.
At this stage with 0 air power over Cyprus and Turkish air bases under cruise missile strike the RAF/Royal Navy would have complete air superiority and a sizable Royal Navy task force consisting of type 45 destroyers, type 23 frigates and nuclear powered submarines would screen the waters between Cyprus and Turkey... the Turkish Navy would be useless absent air cover, not to mention the Royal Navys submarines would decimate any Turkish fleet put to sea.
Turkish submarines are pathetically inferior in comparison to their Royal Navy counterparts and the British are renown for their expertise in submarine warfare... so even a Turkish attempt to strike the Royal Navy using submarines would fail... not to mention the Royal Navy type 23 frigates are excellent anti-submarine platforms and the RNs Merlin anti-submarine helicopters are considered to be the bestin the world!
Anyway this has now gone off topic.
My latest result was here:
22 top airforces (based on plane quality and quantity). | Page 9
22 top airforces (based on plane quality and quantity). | Page 10
Old Pakistan rank
50 JF-17
45 F-16A/B
18 F-16C block 52+
75 Mirage III
83 Mirage V
144 F-7
AEW&C: 4 Erieye, 2 ZDK-03
224/219 = 667
New Pakistan rank:
100 JF-17
40 F-16A/B
14 F-16A/B OCU
18 F-16C block 52+
75 Mirage III
83 Mirage V
144 F-7
AEW&C: 3 Erieye, 4 ZDK-03
276.4/267 = 820
WTF, u mean to say that the arabs have better air force than Indians, in a war against us they will go down like pussies, bogus analysisI was bored and decided to estimate airforces strength. I wrote down the list of active aircrafts for each air force and then counted score.
Here is method I used. F-16C I used as base: 1 air-air point/1 air to ground point. For other aircrafts my estimates are follow:
F-16C = 1/1
F-16A = 0.8/0.8
F-16 block 52+ aka F-16I = 1.1/1.2
F-16 block 60 = 1.3/1.2
F-15A = 1.2/0.5
F-15C = 1.3/0.5
F-15E = 1.4/1.5
F-15S = 1.3/1.4
F-15SG = 1.5/1.5
F-18A = 1/1.1
F-18F = 1.3/1.3
F-2 = 1.3/1.2
F-16AM = 1/08
Mirage 2000 = 1/1
Typhoon (MESA radar) = 1.3/1.1
Rafale (PESA radar) = 1.2/1.2
Tornado IDS = 0.5/1.2
Tornado ADV = 1/0.6
F-4 = 0.4/0.7
F-4 Terminator = 0.6/1
Su-27 = 1.2/0.4
MiG-29 = 0.9/0.5
Su-30MKI = 1.3/1.2
Su-30MKK = 1.2/1.2
MiG-21 aka J7 = 0.3/0.4
MiG-27 = 0.3/0.7
JF-17 = 0.9/0.8
AMX = 0.3/0.5
Mirage F.1 = 0.7/0.8
Mirage 3/5 = 0.3/0.4
Jaguar = 0.2/0.6
F-5 = 0.3/0.4
J-10 = 1/1
J-8 = 0.6/0.4
JH-7 = 0.5/1.1
Q-5 = 0.1/0.4
H-6 = 0/1
E-3, Phalcon, KJ-2000, Boeing 737 = 8/0
Saab, KJ-200 = 6/0
E-2C, ZDK-03 = 4/0
jet tanker = 2/6
KC-130, H-6 tankers = 1/4
Here the results:
UK
86 Typhoon
136 Tornado GR4
AEW&C: 7 E-3
tanker: 4 Tristar, 12 VC-10
260 air to air points/354 air to ground points
France
59 Rafale
158 Mirage 2000
AEW&C: 4 E-3
tanker: 14 KC-135
285/313
Germany
55 Typhoon
177 Tornado IDS
45 F-4
tanker: 4 A310
187/328
Israel
25 F-15I
30 F-15 C/D
30 F-15 A/B
101 F-16I
135 F-16C/D
100 F-16A/B
AEW&C: 4 G550
tanker: 7 KC-707, 5 KC-130
487/466=1440
India
146 Su-30MKI
45 Mirage 2000
68 MiG-29
88 MiG-27ML
152 MiG-21Bis
120 Jaguar
AEW&C: 3 Phalcon
tanker: 7 IL-78MKI
430/491
Turkey
213 F-16 C/D
52 F-4 Terminator 2020
110 F-4
87 F-5
AEW&C: 1 Boeing 737 AEW&C
tanker: 7 KC-135
336/419
Korea
60 F-15K
169 F-16C/D
84 F-4E
170 F-5E
AEW&C: 2 Boeing 737
354/399
Japan
82 F-2
180 F-15C/D
117 F-4E
AEW&C: 4 E-767, 13 E-2C
tanker: 4 KC-767
480/294
Saudi Arabia
72 Typhoon
109 F-15C/D
72 F-15S
87 Tornado IDS
24 Tornado ADV
120 F-5
AEW&C: 5 E-3
tanker: 8 KE-3
488/449
China
190 J-10
100 Su-30MKK
189 Su-27 and J-11
180 J-8
280 J-7 (MiG-21)
60 JH-7
180 Q-5
110 H-6 (Tu-16)
AEW&C: 5 KJ-2000, 2 KJ-200
tanker: 8 IL-78, 10 H-6
859/905
Italy
55 Typhoon
78 Tornado IDS
14 F-16A ADF
55 AMX
tanker: 2 KC-767, 2 KC-130
148/214=510
Spain
32 Typhoon
86 F-18A
24 Mirage F.1
tanker: 2 KC-707, 5 KC-130
154/181
Greece
126 F-16C/D
30 F-16C block 52+
44 Mirage 2000
57 F-4E
AEW&C: 4 Erieye
250/246
Pakistan
50 JF-17
45 F-16A/B
18 F-16C block 52+
75 Mirage III
83 Mirage V
144 F-7
AEW&C: 4 Erieye, 2 ZDK-03
224/219
Egypt
40 F-16A
178 F-16C
18 Mirage 2000
32 F-4E
115 MiG-21 & J-7
60 Mirage V
AEW&C: 8 E-2C
291/320
UAE
79 F-16E
68 Mirage 2000
AEW&C: 2 Saab 340
tanker: 3 Airbus 330
189/181
Canada
103 F-18A
tanker: 2 A-310, 5 KC-130
112/145
Australia
71 F-18A
21 F-18F
AEW&C: 4 Boeing 737
tanker: 3 A330
136/123=395
Singapore
24 F-15SG
54 F-16C
20 F-16C block 52+
49 F-5
AEW&C: 4 G550
tanker: 4 KC-135, 5 KC-130
171/177
Sweden
158 Gripen
AEW&C: 4 Saab 340
tanker: 1 KC-130
183/146
Final points I calculated air-air points*2 + ground points
The final results:
1) USA
2) Russia
3) China - 2623
4) Israel - 1440
5) S. Arabia - 1425
6) India - 1351
7) Japan - 1254
8) Korea - 1107
9) Turkey - 1091
10) Egypt - 902
11) France - 883
12) UK - 874
13) Greece - 746
14) Germany - 702
15) Pakistan - 667
16) UAE - 559
17) Singapore - 519
18) Sweden - 512
19) Italy - 510
20) Spain - 489
21) Australia - 395
22) Canada - 356
This estimate is still subjective does not include personnel quality and UAVs.
First of all this list does not take quality of planes into account (F-22 = MiG-17), second of all numbers are taken out of arse. 1,858 planes in IRIAF? Even if you count piston engined trainers u still wont come even close to that number at all.
Nice humor. You should try urself in circus.new ranking BY 500 :
Read the title. My rank is based solely on quality and quantity of planes.WTF, u mean to say that the arabs have better air force than Indians, in a war against us they will go down like pussies, bogus analysis
Nice humor. You should try urself in circus.
First of all this list does not take quality of planes into account (F-22 = MiG-17), second of all numbers are taken out of arse. 1,858 planes in IRIAF? Even if you count piston engined trainers u still wont come even close to that number at all.
That does seem exaggerated. How can N. Korea, India, Iran etc be above UK and Germany?
Here:@500 Your data on JF-17 is a totally false.
Pakistan inducted it's 50th JF-17 today(18th December, 2013).
So how come you are counting 100 JF-17's in Pakistan Airforce's inventory?
Dunya News: Pakistan:-50th JF-17 Thunder handed over to PAF...
So please update your score.
pray tell me why should the U.K. be placed above India when we operates close to 300 4th generation aircraft compared to 115 4th generation aircraft(Eurofighter Typhoon TR-1,2 and 3) operated by the R.A.F.(the Panavia Tornado variant in R.A.F. service is a strike aircraft like our Sepecat Jaguar,the interceptor variant was retired by R.A.F. in 2011)....That does seem exaggerated. How can N. Korea, India, Iran etc be above UK and Germany?