2011 Poverty Rates in South Asia

[Imran Khan]

some people are really sick man .what make us happy if our next door neighbor is poor ? please don't make fun of our (ind-pak bn ) poor they are human like you guys.

its not crime to be poor nor its shame shame on those who make fun of poor

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Am only quoting the rankings to show that this is the latest data. If the data was old, India'a ranking would be 119 and not 134. I have the report right here infront of me. Feel free to live in denial.

Both the figures for below $1.25 dollar poverty line and Multidimensional poverty figure, India is better place than Bangladesh.

Anyways I don't believe mocking poverty. Just setting the record straight. Once again the data is the latest release from UN.

We are taling about absolute poverty not HDI index. If you think 41% is an old figure post what is the new one for India. Else just keep your mouth shut.

 

[Roybot]

We are taling about absolute poverty not HDI index. If you think 41% is an old figure post what is the new one for India. Else just keep your mouth shut.

Are you broken or something? 41% is the latest figure for India. so is 49.6% for Bangladesh.

Look at the figures ffs. Poverty is one of the factors of HDI

http://hdr.undp.org/en/reports/global/hdr2011/download/

Under the 2011 Report statistical data, 5th one in the list, download the Statistical Tables (1-5) for South Asia , and see for yourself.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Are you broken or something? 41% is the latest figure for India. so is 49.6% for Bangladesh.

Look at the figures ffs. Poverty is one of the factors of HDI

Reports (1990-2011) | Global Reports | HDR 2011 | Download | Human Development Reports (HDR) | United Nations Development Programme (UNDP)

Under the 2011 Report statistical data, 5th one in the list, download the Statistical Tables (1-5) for South Asia , and see for yourself.

This is not only Bangladesgi news source but also Indian news source has reported this 31% figure. N we all know this 49% is of 2005. If you think 41% for India is old I have asked you to put the new data instead repeatedly posting the 2005 data. We have shown even apart from UNDP ... with the Indian source itself India has more poverty and people below poverty line in terms of % then Bangladesh. But thats a different topics. Do not wish to go there. Remain concentrated on this topic. I will try to find the 31% source later.

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As usual Indian members got khujli problem as usual... Let the thread deleted on world affairs forum... anyway carry on hiding your world of shame.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Thread title changed.

Discuss rationally and without flaming or personal attacks or rejoicing in the misfortune of others.

 

[Loyus]

In the thread on India's poverty which was deleted doctor09 mentioned something and I wanted to reply:

someone here said that not only India poor but we all are from poor countries i agree with that we all are poor but we have to find ways so that we can reduce our poverty .... so that the poverty decline not poor

Now you are coming to the point..
So what are we doing about it..

1. I am a firm believer in free market and capitalitic economy and socialist in socio-cultural improvement ..the thing is when you create jobs.. you also create anciliiary jobs.. Let me give you an example.. According to a Mckinsey study of Indian IT indiuestry .. 1 job creates 8 more jobs .. How ? You need canteen, admin, janitor, bus driver etc etc..

2. In India we have less jobs available and more mouths to feed.. So how do we deal with it.. Enter Government schemes like MNREGA.. It artificially creates jobs and well as do good in terms of sustainability.. So in a dry land you pay the poor villagers to dig a pond and ensure water conservation... And you pay the poor a reasonable rate fixed after calculating the cost of living.. Due to this scheme it has actually created job shortage in agricultural farms in Punjab and in industrial factories in Surat, Gujarat..

3. As we move away from agriculture to industry it will keep on creating high value jobs and the multiplier effect will create further jobs..

 

[Roybot]

This is not only Bangladesgi news source but also Indian news source has reported this 31% figure. N we all know this 49% is of 2005. If you think 41% for India is old I have asked you to put the new data instead repeatedly posting the 2005 data. We have shown even apart from UNDP ... with the Indian source itself India has more poverty and people below poverty line in terms of % then Bangladesh. But thats a different topics. Do not wish to go there. Remain concentrated on this topic. I will try to find the 31% source later.

The Indian new source you keep harping on about, never heard of it. And in either case, was written by some Bangladeshi, who must have picked it up fom other source. So zero credibility.

I can't believe you are actually denying the UN, Human Development Report 2011.. The very report, on which the article is based on!

Here I ll make it real simple for you,

http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2011_EN_Complete.pdf

Go to page number 143 and have a look for yourself.

If you still don't believe me, you have the whole report in front of you, find the magical 31% figure you talk off. I won't be holding my breath.

Its ok to concede in a debate sometimes.

 

[Paan Singh]

Thread title changed.

Discuss rationally and without flaming or personal attacks or rejoicing in the misfortune of others.

as per webmaster,poverty issues are prohibited in forum.and this guy sami... daily post 2-3 threads on this issue just for one objective.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I am rather surprised by the report, WRT Pakistan's ranking, though it does echo the World Bank's estimates back in 2007. However, the subsequent terrorism, floods, economic recession etc. suggested a marked rise in poverty numbers.

The ranking on gender equality is even more surprising, and IMO illustrates that it is culture, and not religion, that is often the leading contributor to regressive social values.

The Human Development Report reveals that while India ranks slightly above Pakistan in its level of 'human development' – based on life expectancy, schooling and per capita income – its wider poverty level is worse than Pakistan's.

In absolute terms, 41.6 per cent of India's 1.1 billion people earned less than 78 pence per day compared with 22.6 per cent of Pakistan's 173 million.

The report quotes its 'multi-dimensional poverty index' which includes measures of schooling, child mortality, nutrition, access to electricity, toilets, drinking water, and hygienic living conditions, and reveals India is poorer.

It found 53.7 per cent of Indians suffering from this broader kind of poverty, compared with 49 per cent of Pakistanis.
More surprisingly, India is ranked below Pakistan and Bangladesh on gender equality which reflects maternal death rates, teenage pregnancies, access to education, and the number of women parliamentarians and in the workplace.

Indian poverty levels higher than Pakistan's, says UN report - Telegraph

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as per webmaster,poverty issues are prohibited in forum.and this guy sami... daily post 2-3 threads on this issue just for one objective.

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Back to topic please.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

The Indian new source you keep harping on about, never heard of it. And in either case, was written by some Bangladeshi, who must have picked it up fom other source. So zero credibility.

I can't believe you are actually denying the UN, Human Development Report 2011.. The very report, on which the article is based on!

Here I ll make it real simple for you,

http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2011_EN_Complete.pdf

Go to page number 143 and have a look for yourself.

If you still don't believe me, you have the whole report in front of you, find the magical 31% figure you talk off. I won't be holding my breath.

Its ok to concede in a debate sometimes.

This is not about believing ... You know I know n every one know the 49% figure is from 2005. I told you repeatedly if you this 41% figure of India is the old data of 2005... feel free to post the up to date data. Bangladesh's below poverty line is now 31% and for India it is 32 to 77%. You are more then welcome to put your own data. But do not post this 2005 data which has been just put on the link that you have provided.

Bottom line based on latest estimates India has more poor below poverty line then Bangladesh and it is around 1.5% more then Pakistan. It is a fact. Accept it and think how these poor people can be brought out from poverty.

 

[Roybot]

This is not about believing ... You know I know n every one know the 49% figure is from 2005. I told you repeatedly if you this 41% figure of India is the old data of 2005... feel free to post the up to date data. Bangladesh's below poverty line is now 31% and for India it is 32 to 77%. You are more then welcome to put your own data. But do not post this 2005 data which has been just put on the link that you have provided.

See the point is, the original article says that, according to the UN, Human Development Report 2011 Bangladesh's poverty is 31%. Which is not the case, because according to Human Development Report 2011, as can be seen here, http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2011_EN_Complete.pdf on page 143, poverty in Bangladesh is 49.6%. I really can't make it any simpler.

Bottom line based on latest estimates India has more poor below poverty line then Bangladesh and it is around 1.5% more then Pakistan. It is a fact. Accept it and think how these poor people can be brought out from poverty.

I have no qualms about accepting the reality.

As far as comparisons are concerned, UN figures is what I ll believe and nothing else. Show me the 31% figure for Bangladesh from UN(as claimed in the article) and I'll be off your case.

Thanks.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

as per webmaster,poverty issues are prohibited in forum.and this guy sami... daily post 2-3 threads on this issue just for one objective.

Post on poverty is not prohibited but due to Indian members objection any thread related to toilet is prohibited which is related to India. The reason is obvious. So check your facts before posting.

N for your info this thread itself is about poverty.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

See the point is, the original article says according to the UN, Human Development Report 2011 Bangladesh's poverty is 31%. Which is not the case, because according to Human Development Report 2011, as can be seen here, http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2011_EN_Complete.pdf on page 143, poverty in Bangladesh is 49.6%. I really can't make it anymore simpler.



I have no qualms about accepting the reality.

As far as comparisons are concerned, UN figures is what I ll believe and nothing else. Show me the 31% figure for Bangladesh from UN and I'll be off your case.

Thanks.

Are you brain dead or what??? Or simple thing does not goes in to your mind. If you think it is 2011 data then open 2005 data and see the difference. You will find no difference as in this report they just put the old 2005 data.

Latest figure even by world bank confirmed that poverty rate in Bangladesh is 31%.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

See the point is, the original article says that, according to the UN, Human Development Report 2011 Bangladesh's poverty is 31%. Which is not the case, because according to Human Development Report 2011, as can be seen here, http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2011_EN_Complete.pdf on page 143, poverty in Bangladesh is 49.6%. I really can't make it any simpler.



I have no qualms about accepting the reality.

As far as comparisons are concerned, UN figures is what I ll believe and nothing else. Show me the 31% figure for Bangladesh from UN(as claimed in the article) and I'll be off your case.

Thanks.

Roy, why do you even bother...

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Post on poverty is not prohibited but due to Indian members objection any thread related to toilet is prohibited which is related to India. The reason is obvious. So check your facts before posting.

N for your info this thread itself is about poverty.

Discuss poverty sensibly and with civility, rather than posts implying 'HA HA! You are poorer than we are!!!" and the threads will be allowed to stay open.

The above is meant for everyone, not just the poster being quoted.