karan21
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This is the thing you should do since you have no point
ur a stupid troll ggoing on every thread and writing useless stuff
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This is the thing you should do since you have no point
expressing my opinion is trolling? You feel your stuff is useful ? And you say India is democraticur a stupid troll ggoing on every thread and writing useless stuff
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This is the thing you should do since you have no point
Couple of inaccuracies I spotted while quickly scanning through the topic.
Rafale's TWR is not "similar" to the MiG-35, but it is clearly less. MiG-35 has a TWR close to Eurofighter with its new RD-33MK engines and low empty weight. Unless IAF can get the Rafale with ECO engines, it is highly unlikely it will surpass the MiG-35 in TWR...
...MiG-35's empty weight will not be equal to MiG-29K. MiG-29K has hydraulics to fold the wings, strengthened landing gear, Tail hook and its relevant attach mechanisms to it's main body.. etc etc. MiG-29M's empty weight is around 11500 and it doesn't use much composites while the MiG-35 will be made mostly with Composites. So getting 11000kgs is not impossible, but is a bit difficult.
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Yes, it is not, because the current prototype is not even a regular prototype but only a modified MiG-29K airframe,
The 11t is the promised weight IF IAF agrees to fund the MiG-35 project. They want the IAF to fund the development, like the IN did to the MiG-29K. Even so, they have increased the composites in the prototype when compared to the standard MiG-29K. MiG-29M too has the same number of hardpoints like the MiG-35, and still it has an empty weight of only around 11500. It all basically comes down to funding.
The idea behind Super cruise is only to reduce the amount of time in enemy territory through fast ingress and egress.
The 11t is the promised weight IF IAF agrees to fund the MiG-35 project. They want the IAF to fund the development, like the IN did to the MiG-29K. Even so, they have increased the composites in the prototype when compared to the standard MiG-29K. MiG-29M too has the same number of hardpoints like the MiG-35
Scramble Intercepts are carried out with maximum AB, to achieve maximum speeds, to get to the target the fastest way possible. The idea behind Super cruise is only to reduce the amount of time in enemy territory through fast ingress and egress.
The MiG-35 prototype was more or less a MiG-29OVT. And that was not a derivative of the MiG-29K, but a tech demonstrator illustrating the advantages of a larger Fulcrum and TVNs.
What you say sancho?
Gripen and F16 would have been worse choices You sure Mirage 2000-5 was preferred over Mig29SMT? At that time we were looking for few strike aircraft + few air superiority aircraft . If we had gone for either of Mig29/Mirage there would have been no MRCA at all . Also one reason why we didnt go for Mig29s was we are having option of better , heavy air superiority aircraft Su30mki .As I often stated, the Mig would have been the worst choice ever and the simple fact that IAF prefered more Mirage 2000-5s over more Mig 29SMTs should make clear that too. It is simply an old fighter design with some minor upgrades, but mainly in the A2A role again, while in A2G it will remain on of the most limited. Moreover, the fighter should be in service for up to 40 years and with it's old design and possibly one of the biggest RCS in the competition (possibly even the biggest), the future potential was way too limited to be a useful fighter for IAF.
In fact, the only real advantage it offered was the experience IAF already has with Mig 29s, but apart from that it falls short in nearly all areas!
Gripen and F16 would have been worse choices You sure Mirage 2000-5 was preferred over Mig29SMT? At that time we were looking for few strike aircraft + few air superiority aircraft . If we had gone for either of Mig29/Mirage there would have been no MRCA at all . Also one reason why we didnt go for Mig29s was we are having option of better , heavy air superiority aircraft Su30mki .
Yes, that was confirmed by several different IAF chiefs and even a former IN admiral in different reports. The MRCA competition was needed to get more industrial advantage, that's why no simple follow procurement was done. After MRCA competition was scrapped, IAF tried to by 2nd hand Mirage 2000-5s from Qatar as a stop gap and again not any 2nd hand Mig 29, so there is no doubt about the refusal of the Mig.
Btw, of course the fact that we alread have any good Russian weapons and techs through MKI speakes against the Mig too, but also that it doesn't complement the MKI like the Mirage can.
We didnt go for second hand Mig29s as we are getting Mkis that has same role as Mig29s at that time . Iam not denying the capabilities of Mirage but Mig29s were successful in escorting Mirages in war . It was French who withdrew Mirage in the favor of Rafale ? .Yes, that was confirmed by several different IAF chiefs and even a former IN admiral in different reports. The MRCA competition was needed to get more industrial advantage, that's why no simple follow procurement was done. After MRCA competition was scrapped, IAF tried to by 2nd hand Mirage 2000-5s from Qatar as a stop gap and again not any 2nd hand Mig 29, so there is no doubt about the refusal of the Mig.
Btw, of course the fact that we alread have any good Russian weapons and techs through MKI speakes against the Mig too, but also that it doesn't complement the MKI like the Mirage can.
Wrong analogy . Mig1.44 was never in the Indian competition . Russians preferred to go with Sukhoi heavy aircraft rater than Migs light weight one and awarded them contract to develop PAKFA . Also the success of Su aircrafts in their own AF and Indian Mkis was a factor in giving contract to Su . Now its an aircraft of UAC where Mikoyan also has share .add to that IAF din't go for mig designed FGFA but a sukhoi variant of the jet clearly shows IAF now has got saturated with mig's.