1971, a story of fear, loss and hope

[Homo Sapiens]

The reason that happened was because Bangladeshis knew that Jinnah was fighting hard for these lands but if instead of one big country, they ask for 3 countries then it was most likely the smaller 2 won' get any freedom at all and Bangladesh would' have to live with India. And Bangladeshi leaders were correct in this assessment, because that's what happened with Osmanistan or Hyderabad Deccan

Princely state of Hyderabad was a 87% hindu majority area ruled by Muslim Nizam.It was a land locked state with Indian landmass surrounding from all side.Moreover Hindu majority there agitated to join India.And India was not willing to allow a muslim ruled state inside it's abdomen.So Hyderabad was illegally and forcefully taken by India.These criteria was not present in Bengal then.Bengal was then largest as well as a muslim majority province ruled by Muslim league.In 1946, HS Suhrawardy who was then CM of undivided Bengal declared that, if Congress and British don't agree with Pakistan then Bengal will declare independence unilaterally.Bengal was destined to separate, with or without linkage with western territory.

And what nonsense are you talking about Tripura? British were not distributing lands like channa, Tripura was a Hindu majority state, what claim could Pakistan have?

What claim Pakistan had over Hindu princely state of Bikanir or Jayselmir? that Jinnah gave them blank papers to write down any clause to join Pakistan.He didn't succeeded to win them though.But there was a chance for Tripura.As it's entire economy and transport infrastructure was dependent upon East Bengal and rulers were interested to join Pakistan.There was a possibility that, India would not raised any strong objection in case of Tripura as it didn't have much importance for India unlike the western princely states in Rajasthan.But Jinnah and top muslim leaguer were obsessed with Kashmir and wining princely states in Western sides.So they didn't bother to put any attention for East Pakistan.

As for Rohingyas land, that was historic land of Myanmaar. How would you feel if Myanmar’s Buddhists people settle in Chittagong and after 50 years claim the land and try to merge with Myanmaar?

Arakan is not a historic land of burma.Burmese set their foot for the first time in history there in 1774.then very soon, entire territory came under British and administrated as part of Bengal.When British created Burma province, they drawn a border between Bengal and burma which left some Muslim areas on the side of burma.That areas are the Rohingya areas.Since the early middle ages, there was no dividing line between Chittagong and Arakan.These two region was closely interconnected.People moved back and forth all the time, until British made boundary became two separate country.How can you claim this land historically burmese when even today ethnic burmese are outsider in Arakan and a small minority there? Arakan is a land belongs to Rohingya and Rakhine people. Burmese are outsider there. Arakan became burmese in a same way of how Arunachal Pradesh became Indian.As both Bengal and burma in 1947 was part of British empire, Jinnah could have pressed the British to include the Rohingya areas to include in East Pakistan.But he didn't.I am not judging him negatively, perhaps he could not guess how things will turn bad in the future.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Yep. Bangladesh got rid of that. It was good. Damn even today it feels good. 16th December is really a glorious day.


If anything the theory went back to its root of 1940.

Pakistan has much less backward areas and poverty than your Bangladesh

Go relish your independence day.

You cannot out compete me here.

 

[Max]

Good riddance i must say.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Good riddance i must say.

Exactly. Bangladesh was mostly a liability. Overpopulated, with loads of poor people.

Good riddance.

 

[Max]

Exactly. Bangladesh was mostly a liability. Overpopulated, with loads of poor people and illiterates.

Good riddance.

Even if they were super rich.... Good riddance, they don't belong to us. a land separated by thousands of miles, completely alien to us.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Even if they were super rich.... Good riddance, they don't belong to us.

lol Bangladesh is a backward and unimportant country.

Atleast with Pakistan we have CPEC. What does Bangladesh have?

lol, don't even compare Pakistan with Bangladesh.

Pakistan should be comparing with Iran, Turkey, Malaysia, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Brazil.

 

[Solomon2]

Nuclear weapons are required to keep idiots from invading.

What tragedy you are talking about? Tragedy was for the people of east Pakistan who were brutalized by the PA bullets we paid to buy. Nuclear weapon will remain an old and unusable thing during any future war -

If you need nuclear weapons to keep your country together, then I feel sorry for the people of your country.

Pakistan's defense minister stated last month that a primary purpose of Pakistan's nuclear weapons is to defeat Indian attempts at political "destabilization".

That is, a key purpose of Pakistan's nuclear weapons is to deter and if necessary defeat internal rebellions. The "tragedy of 1971" will never happen again because the scale of death will be so much greater it will be termed another Holocaust instead.

 

[Max]

lol Bangladesh is a backward and unimportant country.

Atleast with Pakistan we have CPEC. What does Bangladesh have?

lol, don't even compare Pakistan with Bangladesh.

Pakistan should be comparing with Iran, Turkey, Malaysia, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Brazil.

i am not here to hurt feeling of inferiority ridden bengalis.

May they prosper more then everyone.

 

[HariSinghNalwa]

It does get boring every year Bengali blow their trumpet about winning a war but actually it was a war between India and Pakistan not a rag tag militia like Mukti bahni trained by BSF posted on east Pakistan borders even Razakars would have taken care of Mukti bahni , Pakistani regulars wouldn't be even required.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

What tragedy you are talking about? Tragedy was for the people of east Pakistan who were brutalized by the PA bullets we paid to buy. Nuclear weapon will remain an old and unusable thing during any future war. You guys are so happy to talk about this weapon, when all other countries of the world are trying to get rid of it. Get rid of your Taleban mentality.

Which countries are trying to get rid of the nuclear stockpiles? Shouldn't you be condemning Uncle Sam for bombing Japan? Or is your hate only preserved for Pakistan?

Well as our prime minister Indira Gandhi said with just one war we have defeated Pakistan's 2 nation theory which the Muslim league drilled in the minds of the people

Well with just one bullet by her Sikh bodyguard we saw what happened to her skull, split in two.

 

[bluesky]

Even if they were super rich.... Good riddance, they don't belong to us. a land separated by thousands of miles, completely alien to us.

When you say this, you keep on wiping your tears of being defeated by us, is not it? Why do you guys are so bent on flattering yourself, just like the Indians do? When the Muslims of Bengal and Bihar fought for Pakistan, you guys were still sleeping on the lap of Hindu Congress. Go and check the provincial elections of 1946. All your provinces elected Congress or parties supported by the Congress. Among all the provinces of then India, it was only Calcutta where Muslim League had formed the government. This was the strongest point in favor of splitting the country into India and Pakistan.

When we did sacrifice for the creation of Pakistan, you jumped to sit on the lap of Pakistan after 1947, and we were downgraded to under its feet. This is why Pakistan crumbled in 1970, finally. After doing 23 years of unfair treatment of the east you guys are claiming happiness at our separation from your Taleban nation, where each week a hundred dead bodies are scattered across the markets by your fanatic and terrorist activities. Yes, only you guys will be promoted to the Paradise for acts like killing innocent people. We are happy to have ridden ourselves from the fanatics.

 

[Bilal9]

But, anyone who wouldn't believe this myth there is "Pakistani"
People dye in war - a few thousands of traitors might have been killed by army and several thousands innocents might have died as well (either in cross fire or by hands of their so-called heroes and Indian friends to fuel the civil war) but their level of propaganda is unmatched.

These are all facts validated by photographic proof and first accounts of tens of thousands of people corroborated and collected by independent observers from UN and other peace-loving countries in Scandinavia (and even myself included). 1971 War and atrocities committed in it (by both sides) are very well accounted for. How many people lied just to accuse Pakistanis of atrocities and what is their gain? Is it worth their time given that the war is long over? Like you said people do die in wars. But we should look into the causes and maybe avoid these circumstances for the future. The evidence is beyond question and people who question it are kind of like people who deny that the holocaust ever happened.

I am not supporting facts either way (I really should however) - but what I am saying though is that you should visit the Liberation Museum in Dhaka Bangladesh sometime (they have a nice new building now, courtesy of Sheikh Hasina's govt.) and go see the artifacts. Crying and jumping up and down at PDF will not bring realization. Go visit the museum in Dhaka sometime. You'll also see if people are friendly toward Pakistanis or not.

It's sad the liberation war digital archive hasn't been put up on the Internet yet but if Hasina and her son are on track, (Digital Bangladesh is their deal after all), this will happen rather soon. Then you can research from the comfort of your home.

For now here's the website. Approach it with the realization that there is no political motive in the representation of these facts.

http://www.liberationwarmuseumbd.org/bangladesh-genocide/

 

[Centaur]

Guys no more fight, let's enjoy the day with drinking wine, dancing in bar by partner swapping (secularism) , and play full volume hindi songs and proclaim ourself as Patriot Bengali . Jay Hindustan Jay victory day in India Pakistan war. Let's celebrate the victory as secular against a Muslim country.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Diwas_(India)
Let's break all Muslim countries like we did in 1971 and also other Muslim countries.Let's become humanist by screwing Muslim unity.

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Bitter realistic joke!!

It does get boring every year Bengali blow their trumpet about winning a war but actually it was a war between India and Pakistan not a rag tag militia like Mukti bahni trained by BSF posted on east Pakistan borders even Razakars would have taken care of Mukti bahni , Pakistani regulars wouldn't be even required.

Hundred percent agree. Actually it was a long term plan of indian think tank to break join Pakistan.
And bangladeshis refuse it because they need to gain some credibly and Pakistanis refuse it in order to prove that they can't lose a battle.
Sadly niazi proved that he was incapable defending pakistanis from opponents.
The great harm is all for Bengalis who remained as a hybrid product. If the war never happened, we maybe separated but with a referendum, and not with such hoax of various myths like genocide, rape etc.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

When you say this, you keep on wiping your tears of being defeated by us, is not it? Why do you guys are so bent on flattering yourself, just like the Indians do? When the Muslims of Bengal and Bihar fought for Pakistan, you guys were still sleeping on the lap of Hindu Congress. Go and check the provincial elections of 1946. All your provinces elected Congress or parties supported by the Congress. Among all the provinces of then India, it was only Calcutta where Muslim League had formed the government. This was the strongest point in favor of splitting the country into India and Pakistan.

When we did sacrifice for the creation of Pakistan, you jumped to sit on the lap of Pakistan after 1947, and we were downgraded to under its feet. This is why Pakistan crumbled in 1970, finally. After doing 23 years of unfair treatment of the east you guys are claiming happiness at our separation from your Taleban nation, where each week a hundred dead bodies are scattered across the markets by your fanatic and terrorist activities. Yes, only you guys will be promoted to the Paradise for acts like killing innocent people. We are happy to have ridden ourselves from the fanatics.

Nobody is crying over Bangladesh what bothers us is when your evil twisted government drags Pakistan into everything wrong happening with Bangladesh. Banglalis cheer for Indira Ghandi I personally cheer for Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawali whos men put a bullet in her head. There was no way BD would have remained apart of Pakistan eventually it would have been independent due to distance, language and cultural differences. Bangladeshis actually think Pakistan is a threat to its survival yet Pakistan has virtually zero presence or authority in your country. BD has threatened several times to send Pak ambassador home, please do it. It is more respectful to end diplomatic ties rather then to have a false pretence of mutual respect for eachother. Deep down Bangladeshis are burning with rage and hatred towards Pakistanis for the war of 71. Clearly we can't be friends or allies. It is in your best interest to forge closer ties with your immediate neighbour India.

 

[Bilal9]

Let's become humanist by screwing Muslim unity.

With respect - I beg to differ.

There is no such thing as Ummah (Muslim Unity).

We Muslims are scum when it comes to unity. I got called names like 'Ya Bakistani' when I went for Umrah from savage low-class animals such as Saudi Arabs.

Neither love, nor religion, nor fellow-feeling, nor even humanity (witness Rohingya debacle) will unify us.

Only one things unifies people (including Muslims) - money.