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1947 Muslim massacre in Jammu

You find my posts and negative ratings ironic but your fellow countrymen's hate mongering is gospel.
This is the best way respond to indians who are incapable of a civil discussion.
You see if a person drink Coffee doesn't evolve into hating tea. Assumption is very dangerous phenomena in 21st century as people think they know it all.
 
First of all how many Hindu and Sikh families managed to survive in Azad Kashmir(Pakistan occupied Kashmir). In short there was communal violence on both sides of border. I don't know what u Pakistanis are taught in your history text books
They were safely evacuated to safe places later they migrated on their choice. No one was harmed in my district.
 
Why these biased hindu are allowed to talk here and troll the discussion. How can they accept the reality of jammu kashmir and east punjab massacre ,even now in these days they are doing same in jammu and kashmir but also permanent state of denial that's their political strategy to counter world criticism and hypocrisy is their national faith
 
no such incident was ever reported. by the way no muslim was left in indian punjab. were they killed?
Thats why i said it is systematically eradication of hindu population with no reports.....
Why the population of Indian muslims increasing if they are so insecure here..and why population of hindus decreasing in Pakistan if they secure there?
 
Thats why i said it is systematically eradication of hindu population with no reports.....
Why the population of Indian muslims increasing if they are so insecure here..and why population of hindus decreasing in Pakistan if they secure there?
when something don't happen you used the words "never reported". the words itself reflects your lies and propaganda brain washed mind. what happened in jammu was reported and seen by whole world.
 
You must be kidding. Read Sardar Khushwant Singh's book : Train to Pakistan to know how securely Hindus and Sikh were forced to migrate to India from Pakistan.

More than one million Hindus and Sikhs died in the partition violence .
Lie just like Indian surgical strikes across LOC.
 
when something don't happen you used the words "never reported". the words itself reflects your lies and propaganda brain washed mind. what happened in jammu was reported and seen by whole world.
Are you willing to accept the other side of the truth rather than just plainly ignoring it?

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.co...-million-hindus-and-raped-200000-hindu-women/

This also narrate what happened during partition.

https://defence.pk/threads/ethnic-c...ssacres-65-years-ago-by-ishtiaq-ahmed.459804/

https://infocus.asiaportal.info/201...idal-massacres-65-years-ago-by-ishtiaq-ahmed/
 
so you don't deny the killings. by the stop giving blogs as reference.

First of all how many Hindu and Sikh families managed to survive in Azad Kashmir(Pakistan occupied Kashmir). In short there was communal violence on both sides of border. I don't know what u Pakistanis are taught in your history text books
kashmir was always a muslim majority area. only minorities lived in areas which are still under indian occupation.
 
So this happened before the hindu pundits were expelled from Kashmir,according to rainman the kashmiri muslims attacked the pundits on religious grounds

Absolutely. The history of sufferings of Muslims of Jammu and Kashmir is a long and grisly tale - going as far back as mid 18th century when the region fell into the hands of externally implanted lineage of Dogras. Under their rule Muslims are documented to have gone through state marginalization, discrimination, and prosecution.

During this chapter, a number of attempts were made to drive out or even exterminate Muslims in sub-regions of the state to alter it's overall demographic makeup. Though heavily outnumbered by state's Muslim diaspora, the Hindu community or as it is commonly referred to as Pundits, enjoyed disproportionately larger access to opportunities and means to prosper. The Dogra-regime-engendered favoritism towards Pundits led to a complete domination of state's bureaucracy, public service institutions, and law enforcement by the small Hindu minority - something that has, albeit somewhat slackened, continued to this day.

Qudratullah Shahaab, an eminent ICS officer from Jammu has written comprehensively and very impartially about the long blood-stained history of Kashmir in his autobiography 'Shahaab-Nama'. I'd recommend that to everyone with a desire to have an objective understanding of the roots of Kashmiri conflict.

On the subject of Pundits - while what happened to them is certainly lamentable, there are certain key points that, in the interest of fairness, must be considered before rendering any judgment on the matter.

Firstly, even by most liberal estimates. the percentage of total Pundits native to Kashmir has never exceeded the figure of 15% of the total population during any instant in modern history. (Some sources have claimed it to be as low as 5%). This population of around a 100,000 persons, by any standards, is too minute to have any meaningful impact on the matter of deciding the fate of Kashmir. In other words, even if the entirety of allegedly displaced Pundit population is relocated to Jammu and Kashmir, their combined weight would still be insufficient to alter the results of any poll - to sway the outcome in India's favor.

Secondly, there are very solid grounds to believe the exodus of Pundits from valley was engineered by the incumbent state of India in the 90's. There's a prevalent opinion among Kashmirirs that Governor Jagmohan encouraged the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits from the Valley by purposely creating an atmosphere of paranoia. in order to prepare moral ground for the already-planned counter-insurgency operations and the suppression of anti-Indian uprising in Kashmir. This argument is validated by the fact that the exodus (which had it's onset on 19th January 1990) was closely followed by first massacre of Kashmiri Muslims at Gawadkal. The Gawakadal massacre was followed by eight other major massacres. fake encounters, enforced disappearances, tortures and crackdown operations.
 
Absolutely. The history of sufferings of Muslims of Jammu and Kashmir is a long and grisly tale - going as far back as mid 18th century when the region fell into the hands of externally implanted lineage of Dogras. Under their rule Muslims are documented to have gone through state marginalization, discrimination, and prosecution.

During this chapter, a number of attempts were made to drive out or even exterminate Muslims in sub-regions of the state to alter it's overall demographic makeup. Though heavily outnumbered by state's Muslim diaspora, the Hindu community or as it is commonly referred to as Pundits, enjoyed disproportionately larger access to opportunities and means to prosper. The Dogra-regime-engendered favoritism towards Pundits led to a complete domination of state's bureaucracy, public service institutions, and law enforcement by the small Hindu minority - something that has, albeit somewhat slackened, continued to this day.

Qudratullah Shahaab, an eminent ICS officer from Jammu has written comprehensively and very impartially about the long blood-stained history of Kashmir in his autobiography 'Shahaab-Nama'. I'd recommend that to everyone with a desire to have an objective understanding of the roots of Kashmiri conflict.

On the subject of Pundits - while what happened to them is certainly lamentable, there are certain key points that, in the interest of fairness, must be considered before rendering any judgment on the matter.

Firstly, even by most liberal estimates. the percentage of total Pundits native to Kashmir has never exceeded the figure of 15% of the total population during any instant in modern history. (Some sources have claimed it to be as low as 5%). This population of around a 100,000 persons, by any standards, is too minute to have any meaningful impact on the matter of deciding the fate of Kashmir. In other words, even if the entirety of allegedly displaced Pundit population is relocated to Jammu and Kashmir, their combined weight would still be insufficient to alter the results of any poll - to sway the outcome in India's favor.

Secondly, there are very solid grounds to believe the exodus of Pundits from valley was engineered by the incumbent state of India in the 90's. There's a prevalent opinion among Kashmirirs that Governor Jagmohan encouraged the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits from the Valley by purposely creating an atmosphere of paranoia. in order to prepare moral ground for the already-planned counter-insurgency operations and the suppression of anti-Indian uprising in Kashmir. This argument is validated by the fact that the exodus (which had it's onset on 19th January 1990) was closely followed by first massacre of Kashmiri Muslims at Gawadkal. The Gawakadal massacre was followed by eight other major massacres. fake encounters, enforced disappearances, tortures and crackdown operations.

This is what pre-1947 Hindu Dogra tyranny against Kashmiri Muslims resulted in:

(1931 Census) Kashmiri Muslim population in total state of Jammu and Kashmir: 1,242,281

(1911 Census) Kashmiri Muslim population which migrated to Punjab+NWFP: 206,180
 
Hindu Pandits went to Jammu under dodgy circumstances. Only a few hundred lost their lives.. Jammu Muslims were massacred en masse/expelled to Pakistan in 1947 through state sponsored genocide. In 1965 and 1971 wars thousands of Kashmiri Muslims also fled to Azad Kashmir/Pakistan. Tens of thousands of Kashmiri Muslims fled to Azad Kashmir in the 90s. Their men killed, houses burnt and women raped.

Clearly Muslims have suffered more. Hindu suffering does not match a cent of what Muslims in the state have gone through.
 
Hindu Pandits went to Jammu under dodgy circumstances. Only a few hundred lost their lives.. Jammu Muslims were massacred en masse/expelled to Pakistan in 1947 through state sponsored genocide. In 1965 and 1971 wars thousands of Kashmiri Muslims also fled to Azad Kashmir/Pakistan. Tens of thousands of Kashmiri Muslims fled to Azad Kashmir in the 90s. Their men killed, houses burnt and women raped.

Clearly Muslims have suffered more. Hindu suffering does not match a cent of what Muslims in the state have gone through.
Muslims clearly suffered more since the 1800s when they lost power in Kashmir. As long as they held power, the Hindus suffered. The wheel of Dharma moved on. Since the destruction of the Mattan Temple, the land has been cursed. It has not seen peace ever since. KM, KPs, everyone suffered and will continue to suffer.
 

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