11-Year-old Girl Punished in School for Wearing 'Tilak' on Her Birthday

[Soulspeek]

Absolutely deplorable act if true. That Principal must be reprimanded for such a shameful act!

11-Year-old Girl Punished in School for Wearing 'Tilak' on Her Birthday
Telangana | Reported by Uma Sudhir, Edited by Deepshikha Ghosh | Updated: February 28, 2015 10:16 IST

The girl was allegedly ordered to stand outside principal Sally Joseph's room on Tuesday and her mother was summoned. The principal allegedly berated the child for wearing a "tilak" on her forehead and hairpins to school. Ms Joseph allegedly refused to listen to the mother's explanation that the child had gone to a temple for her birthday and that is why a holy mark was smeared on her forehead.

"The headmistress did not listen to my wife and daughter and tried to issue a transfer certificate to my daughter," the father said in his letter to the rights body. He alleged that the principal said, "She must remember this on every birthday."

The state education department has been asked by the rights body for a report by April 9.

these people have crossed all limits, they have to be put at a place where they deserve..

@wolfschanzze @Darmashkian
@Zebra

11-Year-old Girl Punished in School for Wearing 'Tilak' on Her Birthday

 

[PlanetWarrior]

School's choice. If a school decided that wearing crosses over the dress wasn't acceptable, they would be well within their rights . There is dress code for a reason. I have kept pointing out a story in Mangalore where a college banned students wearing head scarves (and rightly so imo) and that too was the right of that particular institution.

Btw, that bit about Oscar Fernandes is a bit of a red herring. It would entirely be up to him, just like Modi made a choice not to wear a skull cap.

This might be interesting:

NEW DELHI, INDIA, January 18, 2004: Expressing concern over its officers (both men and women) and jawans wearing "tilaks, vibhuti, birthstone rings and bracelets," on January 8, the Indian Army Headquarters sent a circular to all its formations detailing strict instructions on the "use of religious symbols" while in uniform. These instructions, issued by Adjutant General A. Natarajan with the cooperation of Army Chief N.C. Vij, are in addition to the existing dress regulations covered under 1962 regulations. The new instructions are especially strict for the Indian Army's women officers even though there are just about 75 of them in the million-strong force. They prohibit the use of bangles, ear-studs, lipstick and nail-polish. Sindoor can be used but only if it is not visible when a beret is on. Men officers and jawans can only wear a signet ring on the left hand. Multiple sacred threads on the wrist is not allowed. Only a single sacred thread can be worn and that, too, on the day of Puja. Kadas (steel bracelets) can be worn only by Sikh officers and men or officers commanding Sikh troops. No one can sport "tilak, vibhuti or any other religious symbol" while in uniform. No charms or sacred thread can be worn around the neck. If worn, no part should be visible outside the uniform.

Indian Army Gets Strict on the Use of Religious Symbols - Hindu Press International - Hindu Press International - Hinduism Today Magazine

I note your earlier posts. I am inclined to agree that dress codes must be observed and adhered to in all institutions. The Indian army and military forces are given much more leeway than the usual private institutions including schools for the reasons of discipline and service to the country. However, I am certain that you will agree with me that any law or rule which is unconstitutional cannot be adhered to or enforced ? If you are in agreement with me on that point, how can you justify the act of restricting a pupil's right to practice her religion freely by prohibiting her from using a tilak on her forehead after what is an auspicious day to her, despite the dress code of the school ? This not only applies to this pupil but will also apply for example to a Muslim female pupil who objects to using a short skirt on the premises that it will be against the rules laid down by her Prophet (PBUH) who instructed women to dress modestly. In a nutshell, can a dress code violate the rules of the Indian constitution? From your past posts, you are presumably a lawyer or a law student and hopefully can answer my query

 

[Marxist]

My point was more straightforward that there clearly didn't seem to be a specific anti-Hindu agenda, just a corporate dress code. As I have pointed out, there exists a similar ban in the Indian army over the sporting of religious symbols..

Dont know much about Corporate firms and their dress code ,But Its difficult to believe Indian Corporate firms ban women from wearing Bindi ... We are discussing about Civilian institutions please keep Army out of it...

 

[itachiii]

Are you for real? Do you see the Principal sitting outside? How do you think people get inside their classrooms? Fly? there's a corridor clearly and only the blind don't see it. Why add something (standing 2 hours in the sun) that wasn't there in the story? to add masala?

This is just a story about a girl & a school from a parent's point of view and has no response whatever from the school. Yet you decide the school is at fault, presumably because it suits your beliefs. Even if this story is completely true, it is the prerogative of the school to enforce a dress code & that could include a ban on wearing the tilak. Just like it was the prerogative of the college in Mangalore to ban students wearing head scarves. The bit about birthday & temple etc are not relevant, one can go to a temple & still follow school rules when attending.

Btw, don't bother with being amazed at me, it is likely that you will be amazed by what I say on most things. I'm not here to give you an opinion that might meet with your approval always, so kindly stop being :"amazed" and move on.

as I said earlier people lyk u nvr fail to amaze me...

now in a logic that people lyk u understand , the girl was punished and debarred from the school for wearing a tilak on her head, what would the school principal do if she finds a boy in the school with a chalk powder on his forehead?? it surely looks like vibudhi from shiv temple, does he get debarred too ??

the op says the girl was made to stand outside the principal room under the sun for 2 hrs, it dsnt say if she was made to stand within the corridors where there is shade or smewhere where the girl couldn't find no shade.. Unless you are an architect of the school, I am not sure how could u press hard that she was not made to stand under the sun.

 

[A$HU]

Not really, I've heard of some other schools that do stuff like this even here in Chennai, and in other places in TN.

Tilak/bindi seems to be a big obsession for these guys off late:
Mizoram Chief Minister and Congress chief Lal Thanhawla hit back against the opposition's attack on him for sporting a tilak
Wearing a Tilak in a state that is xtian majority becomes a "controversy" because it's a xtian state (notice how it isnt secular anymore)

https://twitter.com/x/status/570644335236001792

Here is more fun stuff:

News from Nanjangud, India – October 2013 – Messiah Missions International

http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/ijt/40-1-2_058.pdf

Here are the effects of RTE, from Ryan international school:

The best part is, that they are very clear on using Schools as tools to promote this stuff, it is actually a stated position, there was a study (lost the link maybe will post it in sometime if I find it), since they are vulnerable.

A lot of problems are being caused by RTE and some educational policies, but thats another topic.




Are you mad? How does wearing a Tilak not be discipline? Can we ban crosses on the basis of them being undisciplined?

In north they cant dare to do stuff like this.

 

[Soulspeek]

I have myself studied in Convent School. Childern who had their birthdays are always allowed to wear casual dresses as well as wear any kind of religious symbols on that day. Afterall its a special day for him. We always looked forward to getting toffees n chocolates from the birthday boy ☺

Really hard to believe that actually happened in a convent school. For past half hour I am trying to get other sources of this news but unsuccessful so far. If this story is true then that principal deserves a kick on her behind.

 

[my2cents]

Principle of the school need to be desciplined for his rediculous punishment ..Having said that no need to paint all those christian schools in same colour ..They have been doing great work in our education system ..

tomorrow I smear my entire body in ashes, would you tolerate that. We have to draw a line here. These kids are going to school to learn not show off their religiosity. After school you are at liberty to do what you want. Why is it so difficult to understand?

 

[Marxist]

I have myself studied in Convent School. Childern who had their birthdays are always allowed to wear casual dresses as well as wear any kind of religious symbols on that day. Afterall its a special day for him. We always looked forward to getting toffees n chocolates from the birthday boy ☺

Really hard to believe that actually happened in a convent school. For past half hour I am trying to get other sources of this news but unsuccessful so far. If this story is true then that principal deserves a kick on her behind.

Another news source Deccan Chronicle

 

[wolfschanzze]

11-Year-old Girl Punished in School for Wearing 'Tilak' on Her Birthday
Telangana | Reported by Uma Sudhir, Edited by Deepshikha Ghosh | Updated: February 28, 2015 10:16 IST

The girl was allegedly ordered to stand outside principal Sally Joseph's room on Tuesday and her mother was summoned. The principal allegedly berated the child for wearing a "tilak" on her forehead and hairpins to school. Ms Joseph allegedly refused to listen to the mother's explanation that the child had gone to a temple for her birthday and that is why a holy mark was smeared on her forehead.

"The headmistress did not listen to my wife and daughter and tried to issue a transfer certificate to my daughter," the father said in his letter to the rights body. He alleged that the principal said, "She must remember this on every birthday."

The state education department has been asked by the rights body for a report by April 9.

these people have crossed all limits, they have to be put at a place where they deserve..

@wolfschanzze @Darmashkian
@Zebra

11-Year-old Girl Punished in School for Wearing 'Tilak' on Her Birthday

This School is notorious for enforcing Christian rules as though they are in a Christian Land.
Then again the same Minority Institutions cry when we make them obey rules of Secularism.
This is Secularism in Hindu land, if Hindus cannot follow their religion in their own homeland, then nobody should be allowed to follow their religion.
That Principal must be removed from her post and the School issue an Unconditional apology for trying to Rusticate a 11 yr old child, for the sole reason she wore a Tilak on her forehead on her Birthday.
If they do none of the above then the Minority Institution have no right to ask for Tax exemptions or take subsidies using Hindu temple boards money.
They will be taught a lesson.
The number of sharing of this Article online, itself shows the news has gone Viral, Christians shouldn't cry next, we will follow the same standards for them too.

 

[Marxist]

tomorrow I smear my entire body in ashes, would you tolerate that. We have to draw a line here. These kids are going to school to learn not show off their religiosity. After school you are at liberty to do what you want. Why is it so difficult to understand?

There is lot of difference between Smearing entire body with ash and a small thilak on her birthday ...and Religious symbols this not Communist china to ban religious symbols

 

[vsdave2302]

11-Year-old Girl Punished in School for Wearing 'Tilak' on Her Birthday
Telangana | Reported by Uma Sudhir, Edited by Deepshikha Ghosh | Updated: February 28, 2015 10:16 IST

The girl was allegedly ordered to stand outside principal Sally Joseph's room on Tuesday and her mother was summoned. The principal allegedly berated the child for wearing a "tilak" on her forehead and hairpins to school. Ms Joseph allegedly refused to listen to the mother's explanation that the child had gone to a temple for her birthday and that is why a holy mark was smeared on her forehead.

"The headmistress did not listen to my wife and daughter and tried to issue a transfer certificate to my daughter," the father said in his letter to the rights body. He alleged that the principal said, "She must remember this on every birthday."

The state education department has been asked by the rights body for a report by April 9.

these people have crossed all limits, they have to be put at a place where they deserve..

@wolfschanzze @Darmashkian
@Zebra

11-Year-old Girl Punished in School for Wearing 'Tilak' on Her Birthday

Just one more news of Draconian missionary mindset what they do. When a ball of cricket playing children hits a glass of a church, they say that churches are on attack. And see what this Draconian missionary does here.

 

[Marxist]

This School is notorious for enforcing Christian rules as though they are in a Christian Land.
Then again the same Minority Institutions cry when we make them rules of Secularism.
This is Secularism in Hindu land, if Hindus cannot follow their religion in their own homeland, then nobody should be allowed to follow their religion.
That Principal must be removed from her post and the School issue an Unconditional apology for trying to Rusticate a 11 yr old child, for the sole reason she wore a Tilak on her forehead on her Birthday.
If they do none of the above then the Minority Institution have no right to ask for Tax exemptions or take subsidies using Hindu temple boards money.
They will be taught a lesson.
The number of shares of this Article itself shows the news has gone Viral, Christians shouldn't cry next, we will follow the same standards for them too.

How ? ...its not easy to handle them,They are much powerful than we imagine ....

 

[wolfschanzze]

Convent schools are strict but they are the best.
This is an isolated incident.Please dont give any weight to this news.
I'm proud to be educated from a convent school and I can vouch for these nuns who teach there.They are very devoted.

Are you naive?
That St.Ann's school in Hyderabad is notorious for such thingS.
Girls are not allowed to wear Nose studs,Bangles,Tilaks,Ceremonial threads or any religious Paraphrenalia of Hinduism.
My elder Cousin sister when she was young ,was made to stand on the chair and had the shoes tied by Shoelaces to her ears and suspended in air as a punishment for wearing Ear rings and a Ceremonial hindu thread.
This is not a isolated Incident but Rampant Anti-Hinduism by Catholic School and their Institutions.
They should refrain from asking for Government funds nor Tax subsidies allotted to their Church and Institution from the Government.

How ? ...its not easy to handle them,They are much powerful than we imagine ....

Wait and see,They might cry Vandalism soon.
Powerful my foot.
They shite bricks if confronted, Earlier, some years ago, the same Institution was forced to Apologize to some Muslim girls and their parents for something which hurt islamic beliefs.Because many Islamic Organizations ganged up at their front gate and did a Dharna.
They take hindus for granted, because we are Secular fools and never question about our religious right for the sake of Secularism,while they use every opportunity to insult hindus and then cry Victim for petty reasons.
Now you understand, the need to shove the Secularism in their face and tell them to STFU.

 

[my2cents]

Are you naive?
That St.Ann's school in Hyderabad is notorious for such thingS.
Girls are not allowed to wear Nose studs,Bangles,Tilaks,Ceremonial threads or any religious Paraphrenalia of Hinduism.
My elder Cousin sister when she was young ,was made to stand on the chair and had the shoes tied by Shoelaces to her ears and suspended in air as a punishment for wearing Ear rings and a Ceremonial hindu thread.
This is not a isolated Incident but Rampant Anti-Hinduism by Catholic School and their Institutions.
They should refrain from asking for Government funds nor Tax subsidies allotted to their Church and Institution from the Government.


Wait and see,They might cry Vandalism soon.
Powerful my foot.
They shite bricks if confronted, Earlier, some years ago, the same Institution was forced to Apologize to some Muslim girls and their parents for something which hurt islamic beliefs.Because many Islamic Organizations ganged up at their front gate and did a Dharna.
They take hindus for granted, because we are Secular fools and never question about our religious right for the sake of Secularism,while they use every opportunity to insult hindus and then cry Victim for petty reasons.
Now you understand, the need to shove the Secularism in their face and tell them to STFU.

All my cousins and my mother graduated from St. Anns and they have very high regard for this institution. Three generations of our family has gone thro St. Anns. You are just spouting some isolated incident and making a mountain out of mole hill. They are still sought after by parents of all religions to educate their kids.

 

[wolfschanzze]

All my cousins and my mother graduated from St. Anns and they have very high regard for this institution. Three generations of our family has gone thro St. Anns. You are just spouting some isolated incident and making a mountain out of mole hill. They are still sought after by parents of all religions to educate their kids.

Am i?
Show me any kid in St.Ann's who wears a Bindi,Ceremonail thread,Nose studs,Ear rings etc.
While all Christian girls are allowed to wear Crosses and religious icons of Christianity.
You can check even now, it's the same and i am not joking.
No they are not sought after by parents of all religions, sorry to say there are better standard schools in Hyderabad in recent times.

Lecturer's Anti-Islam Remarks Spark Protest, by INAMUL HAQ
Do you understand how the same Institution was made to Apologize for hurting islamic Beliefs?