11 Feb '13: Pakistan conducts test fires of two Hatf-IX Nasr BRBMs

[graphican]

So you mean to say that the Nasr will nullify the Indian mechanized division... but not the Pakistani mechanized division facing the Indian one!

Cold start is rapid thrust! So the aim (Read again, it is just the 'aim' not capability) is Indian tanks will first come into the contact of the Pakistani Tanks ASAP! so in this instance the Nasr will be fired?

What if India opens a front in heavily populated areas! Will a Nasr be fired on that instance as well?

A nuclear weapon can severely affect 4KM-6KM Radius. If Pakistan would use Nasr with nuclear tipping, it would have to use it when its own tanks or mechanized divisions would be at-least not that close.

 

[Rocky25]

Nothing stops India from doing that. But its a shoot and scoot type strategy. The vehicle will launch its load, and than scoot from the area of action. IA would first have to find the vehicle, keep a lock on it and than mobilize a response. It is definitely possible to take out this vehicle, but i would argue that the advantage is on the side of the Nasr due to its mobility and fast reaction time. NATO had a hard time detecting and engaging Iraqi Scud Missile launchers during Desert Storm, and IA does not even come close to the level of fire power, sophistication and the level of reccon level that NATO possessed.

Only an real scenario proves whether Nasr will achieve its intended use.... If Indian divisions make the move... then Pakistan has to shoot on its feet.... I feel that this Nasr does NOT provide any great capabilities that Pakistan does not have!

 

[KRAIT]

That does not make India a win-win position unless all nukes are grabbed and break Pakistan even more pieces!

If they use one nuke, World will take away their nukes. Guaranteed.

 

[doublemaster]

Its for ur cold war strategy! soil,water contamination dont matter in this case.. n the nuclear yield would be small but appropriate enough to wipe ur entire division n still be safe enough for our troops sitting 60kms away.

U mean india will just enter no mans land? i mean...ur bombs wont kil your citizen?

 

[The Deterrent]

@AhaseebA , a few of these beauties deployed on the battle field and even armed with cluster munitions and the devastation of any aggressor is complete.

Of course! Thats the point majority misses!
If we even mass-produce this system as a conventional one, armed with FAE/cluster/smart munitions in future...it would provide us with a very capable battlefield weapon. Could also be used against them TTP bastards.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Can anyone please tell me against which Anti Tactical Missile Defence Systems was this missile tested? How do they know it can defeat them all?

a valid question and a good way to lead the discussion instead of self praise from Pakistanis and taunts & trolling from Indians

since the details will be kept classified so we can only speculate.

the most obvious ones can be

-low flight, high speed, complex flight path and in flight maneuverability
-low observability (speculating on paint, shape, and smaller flame)

making it harder for a tracking radar in track, lock and launch countermeasures like missiles etc.

the more far-fledged assumption can be an on-board jamming system that would defeat the radars of any missile defence system.

 

[ares]

Those who are assuming that Pakistan can get away with Nuking Indian armored divisions or IBGs and India would hold back because nuclear strike was not on Indian soils..should read this..It is India's official nuclear doctrine.

CABINET COMMITTEE ON SECURITY REVIEWS PROGRESS IN OPERATIONALIZING INDIA’S NUCLEAR DOCTRINE

The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) met today to review the progress in operationalizing of India’s nuclear doctrine. The Committee decided that the following information, regarding the nuclear doctrine and operational arrangements governing India’s nuclear assets, should be shared with the public.

2. India’s nuclear doctrine can be summarized as follows:

Building and maintaining a credible minimum deterrent;

A posture of "No First Use" nuclear weapons will only be used in retaliation against a nuclear attack on Indian territory or on Indian forces anywhere;

Nuclear retaliation to a first strike will be massive and designed to inflict unacceptable damage.

Nuclear retaliatory attacks can only be authorised by the civilian political leadership through the Nuclear Command Authority.

Non-use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear weapon states;

However, in the event of a major attack against India, or Indian forces anywhere, by biological or chemical weapons, India will retain
the option of retaliating with nuclear weapons;

A continuance of strict controls on export of nuclear and missile related materials and technologies, participation in the Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty negotiations, and continued observance of the moratorium on nuclear tests.
Continued commitment to the goal of a nuclear weapon free world, through global, verifiable and non-discriminatory nuclear disarmament.

3. The Nuclear Command Authority comprises a Political Council and an Executive Council. The Political Council is chaired by the Prime Minister. It is the sole body which can authorize the use of nuclear weapons.

4. The Executive Council is chaired by the National Security Advisor. It provides inputs for decision making by the Nuclear Command Authority and executes the directives given to it by the Political Council.

5. The CCS reviewed the existing command and control structures, the state of readiness, the targetting strategy for a retaliatory attack, and operating procedures for various stages of alert and launch. The Committee expressed satisfaction with the overall preparedness. The CCS approved the appointment of a Commander-in-Chief, Strategic Forces Command, to manage and administer all Strategic Forces.

6. The CCS also reviewed and approved the arrangements for alternate chains of command for retaliatory nuclear strikes in all eventualities.

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[Irfan Baloch]

If they use one nuke, World will take away their nukes. Guaranteed.

I doubt many of us on both sides of border will live to care what the world does to our unused nukes once one is used
may Americans keep the sole claim of using this shame for humanity for ever and ever.

Amen

 

[Ayush]

on my happy day.

 

[Paan Singh]

a valid question and a good way to lead the discussion instead of self praise from Pakistanis and taunts & trolling from Indians

since the details will be kept classified so we can only speculate.

the most obvious ones can be

-low flight, high speed, complex flight path and in flight maneuverability
-low observability (speculating on paint, shape, and smaller flame)

making it harder for a tracking radar in track, lock and launch countermeasures like missiles etc.

the more far-fledged assumption can be an on-board jamming system that would defeat the radars of any missile defence system.

There is no missile who cant be tracked.Those who claims about low fly bla bla,it comes at last stage not in earlier ones.
Even brahmos is terrain hugging but in last stages not in earlier stage.

and india already have Prahaar version whose range is more than 150 km what pakistan is claiming here i.e tactical strike with small scale nukes

 

[Armstrong]

Those who are assuming that Pakistan can get away with Nuking Indian armored divisions or IBGs and India would hold back because nuclear strike was not on Indian soils..should read this..It is India's official nuclear doctrine.

So let me get this straight you're telling me that Nuking an Indian Armored Division would invite India nuking Lahore ?

 

[Paan Singh]

Those who are assuming that Pakistan can get away with Nuking Indian armored divisions or IBGs and India would hold back because nuclear strike was not on Indian soils..should read this..It is India's official nuclear doctrine.

When they dont have anything to say,they bring nukes.
I want to see when pakistanis will nuke their own land under indian forces i.e fighting inside pakistan or taking fight inside pakistan

 

[Rocky25]

A nuclear weapon can severely affect 4KM-6KM Radius. If Pakistan would use Nasr with nuclear tipping, it would have to use it when its own tanks or mechanized divisions would be at-least not that close.

Yes... That is the key... So the cold start will be really a cold start... i.e within a limited amount of time, You have to inflict the damage and teach the lesson! Else it should NOT be the cold start!

So they should move really very fact and attack the defensive forces with great zeal... It should make Pakistan to shoot itself in its chest rather than its feet!

 

[Rocky25]

Of course! Thats the point majority misses!
If we even mass-produce this system as a conventional one, armed with FAE/cluster/smart munitions in future...it would provide us with a very capable battlefield weapon. Could also be used against them TTP bastards.

It is only the 'Nuke' inside it makes it special... Without that... it is nothing!

 

[Darth Vader]

A nuke is a nuke.... India responds with the second strike which will be massive and cause unacceptable damage!

and what makes You think that PAK will wait for indian 2nd strike in nuclear war prbly
the 1st to use will be the winner