11 Feb '13: Pakistan conducts test fires of two Hatf-IX Nasr BRBMs

[Emmie]

If they use one nuke, World will take away their nukes. Guaranteed.

The world would try hard to deescalate the tension before anything... More than half of the subcontinent will be spifflicated before the phase of confiscation.

 

[The Deterrent]

For the 6th God Forsaken time, the purpose of Nasr is being discussed.

@OT: Video and Images are available at the first page now.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

It is only the 'Nuke' inside it makes it special... Without that... it is nothing!

raaaaaaaaaaaaaight...

did you have breakfast today bro?

not all ballistic missiles are nuclear tipped. some have non-radioactive nasties that have very unpleasant effects on targets whther you call the effects special or not is down to your interpretation.

 

[Rocky25]

So let me get this straight you're telling me that Nuking an Indian Armored Division would invite India nuking Lahore ?

It is stupid... If Indian army is trusting at many points with its armored divisions then will Pakistan's armored division be sitting in Afghan Border with Nasr missiles hitting the Indian division? The thing is you've to shoot at your feet for sure...

 

[Hyperion]

Koi toffee to nahin hai kay "world will take away their nukes"?

Yara, @KRAIT kabhi kabhi tumm bhee 'Think Tank' kee jagah "Think Tub" bann jatay ho. Woh bhe Junior, yani kay, chota wala tub.

If they use one nuke, World will take away their nukes. Guaranteed.

 

[Rocky25]

and what makes You think that PAK will wait for indian 2nd strike in nuclear war prbly
the 1st to use will be the winner

So for what India is developing the ABM and importing state of art radars?

 

[graphican]

Yes... That is the key... So the cold start will be really a cold start... i.e within a limited amount of time, You have to inflict the damage and teach the lesson! Else it should NOT be the cold start!

So they should move really very fact and attack the defensive forces with great zeal... It should make Pakistan to shoot itself in its chest rather than its feet!

Okay keep your line and tell me what some very short time India could achieve? And what would it do which wouldn't offend Pakistan but still get India "something" ? Just want to know what possibly you see as the "gain" of this very quick and very cold start doctrine?

The way I see, Nasr nullifies possibility of India attacking Pakistan with Mechanized Division and "cutting it in two-halves" as they always dreamed off. Now all you are left with is air-support and Osama kind of operation - BUT - who are you going to do that against and what in terms of strategic gains are you going to pull-off ?

 

[farhan_9909]

does neutron bomb has any radiation effect as well?

can a neutron bomb be miniaturized to fit into nasr?

 

[Emmie]

It is only the 'Nuke' inside it makes it special... Without that... it is nothing!

Can same be said for brahmos? It carries non conventional warhead!

 

[notorious_eagle]

But the thing is..in very new future a sizable portion of Indian warheads will be on SLBMs..already assembled and ready to fire at moments notice.

SLBMs launched off the coast of Pakistan..will have two to five minutes fly time to their targets.You will not see the Indian response coming until it has already hit its intended target.

So question is. can you risk loosing your entire nuclear strike capability..even before you have exhausted your conventional response capability...just so that you can fire a small nuclear warning shot.

We will talk about this scenario when the Indian SLBM's come online and are mated with your Nuke Subs . Oh and just for the record, Pakistan has built several underground facilities to ensure that her nuclear command and control centres and nukes stay intact in case of a pre emptive nuclear strike. India by no means has the capability to take out Pakistan's nukes in a pre emptive attack, the only two countries that have this capability are US and Russia.

Only an real scenario proves whether Nasr will achieve its intended use.... If Indian divisions make the move... then Pakistan has to shoot on its feet.... I feel that this Nasr does NOT provide any great capabilities that Pakistan does not have!

Okay than, your feelings are duly noted so now you can stop trying so hard convincing us Pakistanis that Nasr has no tactical or strategic value. We own this missile and we feel that it has immense value, so case closed.

 

[Armstrong]

It is stupid... If Indian army is trusting at many points with its armored divisions then will Pakistan's armored division be sitting in Afghan Border with Nasr missiles hitting the Indian division? The thing is you've to shoot at your feet for sure...

Why would Indian Armored Divisions be thrusting at many areas on the Pakistani border with us being oblivious to it ?

Can't you understand what the tactical nukes bring to the table - No thrusting, no attacking each other, no large scale mobilization - No nothing of the sort !

We could take out your FOBs before you'd cross into Pakistan & vice versa for Indian taking out our FOBs - This is what the deterrent is all about !

 

[ares]

So let me get this straight you're telling me that Nuking an Indian Armored Division would invite India nuking Lahore ?

No, Nuking Civilian population centers does not make sense..unless Pakistan has big nuclear stockpile stored amidst population centers which can not be taken by precision strikes.

A preemptive strike is designed to be decapitating strike ..to take out or severely restrict Pakistan launch capabilities.

Objectively seeing..the foremost aim of Indian leadership after initial Pakistani nuclear strike, will be to minimize further Indian losses..at same time punishing Pakistan for using nuclear weapons.

The only way both these objectives are met are by carrying out precision strikes against know launch sites or if accurate position of these weapons sites is not known..then carry out wider area nuclear strikes to decapitate Pakistani nuclear launch capabilities.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Okay keep your line and tell me what some very short time India could achieve? And what would it do which wouldn't offend Pakistan but still get India "something" ? Just want to know what possibly you see as the "gain" of this very quick and very cold start doctrine?

he is just worried much and not making any sense

he wants us to say that we will not use this missile if India does the cold start.
some people call is Jalab lugna.. thats what is happening with the chap

 

[Darth Vader]

So for what India is developing the ABM and importing state of art radars?

its not US and russia, PAK IND war scenario is different story cz every thing will be done in just few secs bcz of our geographic location

 

[Rocky25]

raaaaaaaaaaaaaight...

did you have breakfast today bro?

not all ballistic missiles are nuclear tipped. some have non-radioactive nasties that have very unpleasant effects on targets whther you call the effects special or not is down to your interpretation.

It is supposedly called 'Tactical' because it carried the nuke material in low quantity! For non-nuke payload, doesn't Pakistan have other missiles?

If you are firing a ballistic missile then it may contain nukes or chemical or biological weapons.... All may create great effect! That's why India has a clause in its no-first use doctrine!