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T-929 is nothing to do with USA-Europe technology

Except the fact it is literally based on the A-129 which is an Italian hardware.

keep crying your iran and greece only can dream about it

Iran is not interested on relying on the west for its technology. We'll leave that to dependent nations like Turkey.


Except Ukranian Engine , full of Turkish technology
-- New design by TAI
-- Rotor and Pal technology from TAI
-- Transmission and landing gear from ALP AVIATION
-- Avionic , Electronic Systems from ASELSAN
-- EW Suite from ASELSAN
-- DIRCM Infrared Counter Measure System from ASELSAN
-- HELMET Integrated Display System from ASELSAN
-- MILDAR Millimeter wave fire control Radar from METEKSAN
-- 30 mm gun from ASELSAN
-- 70 mm laser guided Rocket from ROKETSAN
-- Anti-Tank Missile from ROKETSAN
-- Air to Air Missile from ROKETSAN

All false claims without any verifications. You can add a death star to that list and claim to have made one as well. Claims are just that, claims.

11 Countries are not stupid to buy TB-2 and AKINCI UCAVs without E/O System

No one said they did not have E/O systems, but rather the E/O systems were imported.


Thanks to ASELSAN which is one of the best defense company in the world for E/O Systems , Avionics , EW Systems , AESA Radars , etc

And yet you are still relying on Canada?

And it is not just Canada, here is an article from Armenians, who actually managed to get their hands on these Turkish UAVS and know their components.

Western Companies behind the “Turkish” Drones​


Their names are meaningless, unfamiliar, and innocuous…TDW, BRP, MBDA, UTAS, MAM-L, CD-155, Rotax, Microhard… but they are not innocuous. They are the names of the companies or their products which have helped Turkey manufacture drones which have killed Armenian soldiers and civilians in the past month, in addition to causing massive urban destruction. These companies–in Germany, Austria, Canada, the United States, and England– have also given Turkey false bragging rights that the drones are the creation of Turkish technology.

Missile-equipped drones (OMTAS) developed by German weapons producer TDW of Schrobenhausen, Bavaria are flying the murderous white crescent-and-star flag in the Artsakh skies. The German company—a subsidiary of MBDA which manufactures missile systems with French and Italian partners–has also sold the production license of their drones to the war criminal Turkish government.

Until recently, the Austrian Rotax was producing engines for the “Turkish” drones. It was helping Turkey by breaking the embargo using an Italian company as a front. Whether outraged by Turkish criminal activities or because of public pressure, Rotax will no longer sell its engines to the Erdogan gang.

Bombardier of Canada is another company which assisted Turkey’s drone manufacturers. It too has decided to discontinue its relations with Turkey’s murderous drone fabricators.

The U.S.-based Garmin announced on Nov. 4 that the company has launched an investigation to reveal how the devices it has invented have been used in the Turkish Bayraktar UAVs after which relevant measures will be taken. The Armenian National Committee of America brought to the company’s attention that one of the Garmin products has been incorporated into drones to kill innocent civilians in Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh). The company said it condemned “this violence in the strongest terms, and we are heartbroken for the loved one of those who have been killed.”

The company also said the Garmin product is for commercial use and was not designed for military use, and certainly not intended for drone use. “We are investigating how our product ended up in these drones, and will take appropriate action following our investigation to guard against our products being used again in this manner.”

President Recep Erdogan’s family has shares in Turkey’s drone manufacturing companies. Although his salary is about a million dollars a year, Erdogan is a billionaire many times over, according to German and British investigative reporters. Erdogan’ elder son owns a fleet of tankers while his younger son is a known partner of criminals.

Angela Merkel’s government is another conspirator helping Erdogan and Aliev kill Armenians. In the past 10 years, the Germany has approved 33 units of military hardware for export to Turkey for the use of unmanned military aerial vehicles. Germans have a soft spot for Turks. Thus, they have welcomed three million Turks. Germans admire the Turks’ “martial spirit” although Turkey has lost the overwhelming majority of its wars in the past 250 years.

Then there is Wescam of Burlington, Ontario which has sold electro-optical and infrared cameras for the Turkish Bayraktar and TAI drones. Wescam—an American-owned company–has also granted Turkish unmanned aerial vehicle manufacturers the right to license its technical facilities and perform maintenance and software updates of its technical equipment in Turkey.

Another Canadian company which has helped Turkey develop drones is the Calgary-based Microhard Systems. It has provided to the “Turkish” drone antennae radio transmitters and amplifiers.

The UTC Aerospace Systems is the subsidiary of a U.S aviation company. It operates in England under the name Atlantic Inertial Systems producing laser technologies for the MAM-L missiles fired from Turkish unmanned aerial vehicles. The company has numerous investments in Turkey, including shares in the Turkish Airlines.

Continental Motors of Germany produces diesel engines named Continental CD 155 for the Bayraktar TB2 and PD155 engines for Anka-S unarmed aerial vehicles. Numerics Software GmbH (headquartered near Munich) is another German company which has helped Turkey with the production of missiles launched from unmanned aerial vehicles.

Thus, while Turkey has been bragging about the effectiveness of its drones, it hides the fact that Ankara’s drones are pastiches of imported technologies from half-a-dozen western countries
—countries which Erdogan charges with declaring a new Crusade against Islam and particularly to Erdogan’s Turkey.


During a press conference last week with mostly-European journalists, Armen Sarkissian, president of Armenia, said the “Turkish” drones are the creation of companies from NATO countries. “They are European weapons. Turkey is making only the body. Austrians are making the engine, Canadians are providing the avionics and the British are making the guidance system.” The name on the drone says Bayraktar but the technology inside is as far from Turkish capabilities as Ankara is from the tents the Turks lived in Central Asia.




btw Canadian defence company bankrupted due to arms embargo against Turkiye

so funny

I hope you realise this news (if true) actually ridicules Turkey because it would suggest you were importing a significant amounts of hardware from them.
 
Yes, Iran and India are dreaming of importing Italian helicopters and renaming them. Truly the stuff of dreams.

Its belong to Iran American COBRA Helicopter and renaming TOUFAN

Iran has no technology to develop even next gen HELMET
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There is no any Italian , American or European technology on Turkish T-929

Except Ukranian Engine , full of Turkish technology
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And Aselsan AVCI next gen HELMET
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No one said they did not have E/O systems, but rather the E/O systems were imported.

they imported E/O System from your arse
jealous liar
 
Its belong to Iran American COBRA Helicopter and renaming TOUFAN

Iran has no technology to develop even next gen HELMET
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There is no any Italian , American or European technology on Turkish T-929

Except Ukranian Engine , full of Turkish technology
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And Aselsan AVCI next gen HELMET
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"The T929 ATAK-II is based on the T129 ATAK helicopter, which is based on Leonardo Helicopters' Italian Agusta A129 Mangusta"


Unlike you, we can post actual sources to counter these fantasies.
 
And it is not just Canada, here is an article from Armenians, who actually managed to get their hands on these Turkish UAVS and know their components.

Loser Armenians and their butthurt feelings

Western embargo could not stop Turkiye to sell UCAVs to 34 Countries
because Turkiye has great defense industry to use its own systems
 
Loser Armenians and their butthurt feelings

Western embargo could not stop Turkiye to sell UCAVs to 34 Countries

So you have no real counter to their claims except calling them "loser". Noted.


because Turkiye has great defense industry to use its own systems

A great industry which is almost entirely reliant on imports?
 
"The T929 ATAK-II is based on the T129 ATAK helicopter, which is based on Leonardo Helicopters' Italian Agusta A129 Mangusta"


Unlike you, we can post actual sources to counter these fantasies.
Ignore him.
He don't want to understand.
 
Ignore him.
He don't want to understand.

His propaganda is being debunked for the benefits of other users. Having said that, I doubt any rational person would actually believe any of these fantasy claims but still, it a defence forum and propaganda like his must be debunked.
 
Unlike you, we can post actual sources to counter these fantasies.

Trash website Gagadget By: Maksim Panasovskyi who know nothing about Turkish defense industry

stupid fckwit Maksim who is nothing
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T-929 is nothing to do with Italian A-129

No any Italian technology on the T-929 ... you jealous liars

T-929 based on Turkish T-625 Helicopter which is using sub-systems such as transmission , rotor - pal systems , landing gears , avionics , etc developed unter the T-625 Helicopter project

You can not do anything without Italian permission on T-129

But T-929 is a Turkish technology project with technological know-how gained through the T-625

No any sub-system or components from Italy or USA or Europe
except Ukranian Engine , full of Turkish technology ( TAI , ASELSAN , METEKSAN , ROKETSAN , ALP AVIATION )


Jealous Iranians , Turkiye decades ahead of İran in aviation industry
Go and dream about outdated TOUFAN which is American COBRA
 
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Trash website Gagadget By: Maksim Panasovskyi who know nothing about Turkish defense industry

He knows more than you apparently because he has many eye opening insights into your defence industry and you have nothing to counter his claims with.

Resorting to ad hominem attacks by hurling insults at him only show desperation on your part.


T-929 is nothing to do with Italian A-129

Nothing, except the fact it is based on it?


No any Italian technology on the T-929 ... you jealous liars

The whole platform's origins is essentially based on the A-129. It's just a further development of it. Don't cry to me, cry to the sources making the claim.


T-929 based on Turkish T-625 Helicopter which is using sub-systems such as transmission , rotor - pal systems , landing gears , avionics , etc developed unter the T-625 Helicopter project

You can not do anything without Italian permission on T-129

But T-929 is a Turkish technology project with technological know-how gained through the T-625

No any sub-system or components from Italy or USA or Europe
except Ukranian Engine , full of Turkish technology ( TAI , ASELSAN , METEKSAN , ALP AVIATION )

The issue here is, none of your claims are backed by any independent sources. You're essentially just writing claims on a forum and hoping people are naive enough to believe them.

How many sources do you need me to post regarding the reality of Turkish defence industry?
Your defence industry is basically an imported/ assembler of western technology. Accept it and move on.

Jealous Iranians , Turkiye decades ahead of İran in aviation industry

The only area Turkey is ahead of Iran in is importing technology. Nothing else. Your aviation industry is as much Turkish as your T-129 is Turkish. It's all just propaganda and imported technology like I shown many times already.

You should compare yourselves to the likes of UAE. They're more on your level.
 
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He knows more than you apparently because he has many eye opening insights into your defence industry and you have nothing to counter his claims with.

His source is youtube video .. what a joke

Ask to other Turkish users what about T-929 which has no any İtalian technology


Nothing, except the fact it is based on it?

what about based ? which part from Italy ?

The issue here is, none of your claims are backed by any independent sources. You're essentially just writing claims on a forum and hoping people are naive enough to believe them.

Not my claims

full off from TAI and ASELSAN
 
His source is youtube video .. what a joke

His sources are actually reliable as we can see others making the same claim.

For example:

SPECIAL REPORT – Killer optics: Exports of WESCAM sensors to Turkey

"Since 2017, Turkey has been a major customer for WESCAM products, second only to the United States"


Furthermore, you're not actually countering his examples. Your claims are based on nothing.


Ask to other Turkish users what about T-929 which has no any İtalian technology

How would that be any different than your propaganda? The point of independent verification is non biased sources confirming it. As you can see, many independent sources are claiming your defence industry claims are fake.


what about based ? which part from Italy ?

The entire platform is based on the A-129, just a further development of it. Did you not read the article?
 
The only area Turkey is ahead of Iran in is importing technology. Nothing else. Your aviation industry is as much Turkish as your T-129 is Turkish. It's all just propaganda and imported technology like I shown many times already.

T-129 is not Turkish project


Turkiye is decades ahead of İran in aviation industry

TFX
HURKUS
HURJET
TB-2
TB-3
ANKA
AKSUNGUR
ANKA-3
AKINCI
KIZILELMA
T-625
T-929
 
T-129 is not Turkish project

We know it's not, it's a western piece of technology like almost everything else you claim to be making.
Turkiye is decades ahead of İran in aviation industry

TFX
HURKUS
HURJET
TB-2
TB-3
ANKA
AKSUNGUR
ANKA-3
AKINCI
KIZILELMA
T-625
T-929

All based on imported technologies. If ahead = more imports in your universe, then you're right.
 
For example:

SPECIAL REPORT – Killer optics: Exports of WESCAM sensors to Turkey

"Since 2017, Turkey has been a major customer for WESCAM products, second only to the United States"

until 2021 you liar troll

since 2022 TB-2 and AKINCI uses indigenous Aselsan CATS E/O System
ask to other Turkish users instead of trolling

We know it's not, it's a western piece of technology like almost everything else you claim to be making.

keep crying jealous Iranians
 
until 2021 you liar troll


Where does it claim until 2021?
since 2022 TB-2 and AKINCI uses indigenous Aselsan CATS E/O System
ask to other Turkish users instead of trolling

No it does not. I've literally posted a source above showing otherwise. I am commenting to you, not other members. If you do not have the evidence to back your assertions, then refrain from making false claims. Other members will not be able to rescue you from these propaganda claims.
 
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