PTM: we would hang army officers. We would kill them. F*ck Pakistani constitution. We won't teach our kids jinnah and iqbal. We would create a new country for pashtuns
Jungibaaz: may be their speeches are anti state. May be.....
I'm absolutely in favor of development because it will address the concerns of the vast majority, and those concerns are absolutely legitemate, but the PTM itself and the mindset of its leadership, core members & even non-Pashtun supporters will never be satisfied with 'development'.
I am talking facts. The facts that prove PTM is a fraud
You are not only one. Mohsin Dawar used to justify civilian deaths in drone attacks and military operations but is now champion of Pashtun rights today
PTM is full of such flip flops. You are another one of these confused supporters of PTM
They are political wing of TTP. Another proxy of Kabul government
Are you sure?
Because as per a tribal elder Yasir Mehsud Manzoor Gashteen is himself TTP
Not to forget TTP open support for PTM
Also going by logic if TTP killed Manzoor Gashteen elder brother and also kills Pakistan army soldiers then it is joint enemy of both PTM and Pak army but then why PTM tries to white wash crimes of TTP and pin them on Pak army instead
PTM claiming dead militants of TTP as innocents
PTM saying Pak army officers killed at hands of TTP were actually killed by Pak army
PTM accusing Pak army of orchestrating APS attack
If PTM is actually against TTP and manzoor was personally hit by TTP then why PTM is hell bent on pinning crimes of TTP on Pak army?
Any logical reasoning that you can share with me??
Yeah because those check posts stop them from running their terrorism economy where suicide bombers where available on rent
Anyways checkposts have been reduced anyways
Yeah the landmines planted by TTP but here again PTM accuses army of planting those land mines and not TTP
Yet another example of PTM pinning TTP crime on Pak army. May be PTM hates TTP that is why it pins its crimes on Pak army
Strange "hate" they have for TTP
The thing policy makers need to understand that for how long they would allow propaganda against the state on the name of freedom of express. For how long people would get away with running campaigns against the state and that too on tax payers money (example Mohsin and Ali wazir)
I don't know and I don't care either
I can't call cr@p as gold like you. That is I am sure about
I have
Those who didn't use to benefit from "terrorism economy" of Waziristan have told me a lot about PTM and its leadership. All of them agree that it is a piece of sh!t.
No wonder PTM doesn't win outside Waziristan despite all the support and funding from Afghanistan and our librals like Gul Bukhari
Just doing my part as a Pakistani even if the state is sleeping
Can't allow a whole ethnic group of my country being fooled to support a secessionist movement on the name of communal rights
Can't see people presenting pile of sh!t as gold and get away with it
U need to look at what u are saying, MQM has been given there due share of lenience, maybe too much in the past, they had our economical hub by the balls and had to be handled when they grew out of propotion, as i said dont make this about ethinicity, pashtoon areas were bombed and dealt with an iron hand in zarb e azab or have u forgotten that? i am niether a pashtoon nor an urdu speaker so i have no alliegence to either of these so called ethinic groups, TTP was a predominately pashtoon group which was dealt with just as MQM was dealth with, PTM is a different story, it is a cancer that seeks to survive on a narrative of wrongs done to pashtoons, they seek to feed of the destruction caused in the wake of the WOT in tribal areas hence we need to deal with them more smartly.
It is the fault of our politicians for letting FATA remain no mans land since partition, we should have brought them to the mainstream and merged them with KPK decades ago and this problem wouldnt even exist, we have been dealing with these guys with colonial era draconion laws since 1947 for heavens sake, for them the British never left, atleast now we have smartend up, i guess "der aye durust aye". Dealing with internal threats is much more complicated that fighting an enemy overseas. It takes a delicate touch because the consequences of acts done in haste and as a result of natural instinct can haunt us for decades to come.
You have to be careful not to conflate all Pashtun or even all Tribal Pashtun with the minority that joined the TTP. And the blame for so many joining the TTP also lies across the board, not just with the people of the Tribal areas. In my view, the power structure in the Tribal areas was ready for a strong, brutal entity like the TTP to step in and overthrow. The Tribal leaders were targeted one by one and the TTP, in contrast to the fractured tribes, was able to put up enough unified force in specific areas to overrun any local opposition. Even the pro-government Lashkar's were not always able to ward off the TTP long term without Army assistance.
