Moral of the story (nonsense) : it happens everywhere,it has been happening in the past ... construction site etc.
Facts (recent history):
Sindhurakshak sub (blast)
Konkan (fire)
Talwar (collision with a fishing tanker)
Tarkash (collision with a jetty)
Betwa (ran aground and collision)
Vipul
Ariavat (ran aground)
Sindhuratna (fire)
Kolkotta (fire)
N.sub.
Tell us more.... how many of these accidents happened in sub standard dockyards?
I told myself I wouldn't do it but-sigh- I have to make this one last comment then I am done with you. And this isn't for your benefit but for all those dumb enough to follow this logic- as the Indian media are.
Sindhuratna (fire)
Kolkotta (fire)
INS Viraat (fire)
These three happened in Indian shipyards where, as I've covered, unsafe practices take place- go figure this leads to such accidents.
It happens. What you and the Indian media haven't been making known though is that this is a LST (Landing Ship-Tank) who's day to day activities involve ramming themselves onto beaches and effectively beaching themselves in order to land amphibious troops and vehicles.
Tarkash (collision with a jetty)
Betwa (ran aground and collision)
Again, it happens, what more can I say? Don't know the specifics of these cases but these things happen.
Talwar (collision with a fishing tanker)
If you have a large cumbersome naval vessel entering some of the most congested waters anywhere in the world-AT NIGHT, and a a tiny trawling vessel operating with NO LIGHTS then yep, this isn't a surprise.
Sindhurakshak sub (blast)
Sindhuratna (fire)
Aged Kilo subs that should have been gone years ago and would have been if the Scorpene production hadn't been such a mess. Sadly this is almost IDENTICAL to the MiG-21 (see "flying coffin") fiasco with the IAF. The Indian Mil having to serve, train on/with and operate aged machinery that deserves to be in a Museum because their replacements are on the horizon and not ready now....
All I will say is that accidents are not unique to the IN alone, they are a high-tempo professional force that are out on the high seas every single day training and pushing their equipment hard. These (on the whole) are isolated incidents that need to be looked at in isolation (the Kilo issues and construction sight safety standards or lack thereof, being the exceptions). When accidents happen thorough investigations are ordered and where needed severe action is taken against those i the wrong.
With the Indian Navy expanding year year even if the actual accident rate remain static the outright number of incidents is going to increase year on year-common logic. Nothing is getting worse, but then nothing is getting better- which should happen.
As an aside, I'd argue that, IMHO, this was growing pains for the Indian navy-something they NEED TO go through. They are growing at an accelerated rate and are having some serious issues reorienting themselves from a rather modest yet highly efficient and professional force to one with global reach and far greater significance. They need to (and are btw) work on their HR and recruiting policies not to mention continuously evolve their training. They will come out better for having gone through this period....
Oh sorry, was that too much logic for you? Did you think you could silence me with your "facts"??
Naval accidents are common, I heard the USN lost close to 1100 men before they got their ACC ops in line.
Coming to the IN, I see two issues here..
One - the IN is inducting ships at a rapid pace and also close to 46 IN ships are under construction at various ship building facilities - this pace and the known lacuna that exists in both poor construction and safety standards cause these accidents.
Second issue is a number of subs are old platforms and poor maintenance and poor expert hands probably cause these mishaps.
The worrisome part is all the incidents are happening in a bunch and people are not learning from the mistakes.
Spot on mate.
Talk about india only, don't hide behind Asia now, btw what accidents happen with such frequency in any other Asian country?
I seriously doubt Bangladeshi, Pakistani or even Chinese construction sights are all that safer than Indian construction sights.
