I never said they were the same. Of course Turkey is more liberal.
I'm saying several other things: firstly, that there is a difference between what's on paper and what is in practice in Pakistan. Even you agree with this, yes? That means we're not following what is on paper.
On paper...
I can find pictures like this from Pakistan, only without homosexuality or alcohol. (and probably with too, if i really looked)
Lahore
Kinnaird College^
Look, smiles and dances. Does this mean everything is great in Pakistan?
Smiley faces and dancing youth means nothing. And a lot of...
Very true. It's especially saddening to see Pakistanis, upon coming to the West, exaggerating the conditions in Pakistan and making themselves look like victims of some evil regime and portraying Pakistan as some kind of post-apocalyptic wasteland to gain sympathy, when in fact their lives in...
Again, same problem. Turkey has been industrialized and developed since before Pakistan existed. Obviously, not as much as the Western countries Ataturk tried to emulate, but still considerably more than Pakistan.
Abandoning our culture is not the answer. The West has its own problems as well...
I'd say that's the wrong way of looking at it. If you define 'first world' as Western Liberal, then true. But a country can be socially conservative, preserve its morals and culture, and still be well developed.
The problem is not that we are too conservative or too religious. It's that we...
@Arsalan mehmud I told you you were blindly repeating what Barelvi molvis say and you just copy-pasted their words instead. That's not an improvement.
Anyway, there is so much falsehood and so many contradictions in these statements - I'll present a few examples.
No, the punishment for...
No, actually. He said there will be a fitna from 'the East', black banners, people who would recite the Quran but they would ''exit the deen like an arrow swiftly passes through its target'' - sounds more like a description of modern ISIS. Abdul Wahab had no black banners.
Full Hadith:
I...
Most Deobandis are actually believers in peace and Islam. Deobandis are about 20% of Pakistan's population, for God's sake. TTP are extremists within that - they don't represent Deobandis any more than they represent Islam.
Now, if you have any understanding at all of what you are talking...
Yes, because the Hanafi Deobandi TTP are so Wahabbi.
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Another problem is that there is no definition of 'Wahabbi.' Very few people actually call themselves that. The common definition appears to be: Deobandi (more than 20% of Pakistan's population), Salafi, Ghair-Muqallid, and...
Not sure when this survey was conducted, because a lot of Pakistani media covered the Paris attacks and covered them pretty well. Right now most Pakistanis still aren't worried about ISIS, so the 62% 'don't know' is understandable.
Also, the way the question was worded could influence the...
Nobody wants to throw you out of your own country. Except for Altaf Bhai, who would rather have you take 'commando training' and fight against your own country.
You sure need to learn about something called 'humanity' - most of these people you consider to be below you are much more respectable...
That is how the Umm-al-Qura calendar works, and I suggested having a system similar to that. However, it is not always a 100% accurate.
Let me quote your words:
Of course I have not provided a solution for the entire legal code. That's like saying to a baby "good steps, but you haven't beaten...
Great that we got that out of the way.
Yes, we can. We need to invite a number of popular religious leaders from every major sect across Pakistan into a conference room.
(Popular leader defined as one followed by more than 10% of his sect's mosques - the number of leaders to be invited will be...
That is the very definition of a superiority complex.
As for "people who forget their place", there are no "places" here. This is not the Hindu caste system or Hitler's ''Aryan Reich''. Everybody here is a human.
You clearly do not believe in Pakistan, the country your forefathers helped...
'Chance', in this sense, is subjective. What qualifies as chance, in your books? In mine, the simple fact that people are discussing it is chance.
What are the chances of Sharia being implemented this very second? Obviously, none. But in the future? Plenty of chance.
Nobody in 1867 would have...
To answer your first question, sir, a simple look at your previous posts is enough to tell your stance.
To answer your second question, this is not something that can not be agreed upon - it's just something no one wants to agree upon.
Otherwise, as I have said multiple times before, if they...
Corruption - through a mixture of welfare (to reduce incentive for corruption), law enforcement, deterring punishments, and a proper judicial system.
Idiocy and Ill Intentions - can't help you there. No system in the world can. Except maybe education to reduce the amount of idiocy.
Problem is...