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we cannot defeat isis without defeating the wahhabi theology that birthed it

You hear about Sufis' tawasuf, I am gonna show you some of the tawasuf that some Sufis are bragging here:

Here is the Sufis doing circle dancing;


Here is Sufis doing kind of ballerina dance :lol:


In this video, Sufis has taken their dance into whole new level where they dancing to Michael Jackson's Thriller song :rofl:



Atleast they are not blowing someone or thiersleves like u wahabis do... neither anyone claim that they are responsable for present situation of Muslims... but wahabi khawarij...

Btw what Quranic verse or Hadith u have to declare them apostate my Wahabi fella?
 
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I think we should look at Deobandi and Wahabi schools of thought critically. What have these cults given to Islam other than murder and genocide?

You hear about Sufis' tawasuf, I am gonna show you some of the tawasuf that some Sufis are bragging here:

Here is the Sufis doing circle dancing;


Here is Sufis doing kind of ballerina dance :lol:


In this video, Sufis has taken their dance into whole new level where they dancing to Michael Jackson's Thriller song :rofl:

Sufis are generally far less likely to bomb crowded market places and mosques rather than Wahabis.
 
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I think we should look at Deobandi and Wahabi schools of thought critically. What have these cults given to Islam other than murder and genocide?


Sufis are generally far less likely to bomb crowded market places and mosques rather than Wahabis.


The only achivement of wahabi khawarjis is that now all Muslims are Mushrik and biddati and wajib ul Qatl except them..
 
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Today over 80 nations are attacking Raqqa. What has the people of Syria done that it warrants all of the nations' air force be attacking it? Believe it or not, the hadith of many nations with 80 flags attacking Muslims in being fulfilled here.

Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) got up from his sleep with a flushed red face and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe to the Arabs, from the Great evil that is nearly approaching them. Today a gap has been made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this." (Sufyan illustrated by this forming the number 90 or 100 with his fingers.) It was asked, "Shall we be destroyed though there are righteous people among us?" The Prophet said, "Yes, if evil increased."

The Gog and Magog has already seized power echelons of all of the key points in the world, they have invaded Palestine at the turn of the 20th century & seized Masjid Al-Aqsa and Jerusalem, they are today Western side of the Jordan river, and today every Arab and Muslim household between Euphrates to the Nile is burning.

You should be asking yourself is this happening by coincidence?

Quit the blame game, we all know who is behind all of this!

The only achivement of wahabi khawarjis is that now all Muslims are Mushrik and biddati and wajib ul Qatl except them..

The achievement of Sufism has always been to ally themselves with the enemies of Islam. They were the biggest betrayers of Islam and the Muslims.

You can hate all you want but Salafi Muslims are making a huge a impact in the world today. Actions of some groups, whose nations and towns are under attack, can't provide the Sufi grave worshipers an ammunition to attack Muslims who are hurting. If any decency is left amongst the Sufi, they would not be scapegoating Muslims who are hurting and are under attack.
 
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I'm not mistaken my Qadiani friend. I am well aware of your views, but in this instance, you talked sense, so therefore I thanked you.
Sir, why don't you explain what is Wahabi Ideology. I am not a Muslim, so I don't want to comment on the topic, but what I am getting feeling is the new Neo-wahabi ideology, that have created ISIS. I am reading ISlam for couple of days, and should I request you to explain other 72 Sect in Islam, why are they, when on surface, the Muslims looks united, and one with Koran to guide -- Is the different interpretation of the holy Koran, is the problem.
 
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You hear about Sufis' tawasuf, I am gonna show you some of the tawasuf that some Sufis are bragging here:

Here is the Sufis doing circle dancing;


Here is Sufis doing kind of ballerina dance :lol:


In this video, Sufis has taken their dance into whole new level where they dancing to Michael Jackson's Thriller song :rofl:


Oh boy they are a big threat to the world,all this provocative dancing.
 
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What has Mossad, French intelligence, and other secret organizations in the West orchestrating attacks in their soil got to do with the teachings of Sheikh Muhammad Bin Abdul-Wahhab (May Allah be pleased with him)?

Many don't know that the Wahhabi sect falls under the Hanbali School of Thought in Sunni Islam.

Give it up, losers; the killing of millions of Sunni Arabs and Turkomen in Iraq and Syria is a crime against humanity. Who is gonna speak up for the countless dead, wounded, and orphans in Fallujah, Ramadi, Tikrit, Haditha, Mosul, Samara, Raqa, Damascus, Homs, and many other places in the Sunni Arab and Muslim world?

What about the continuous genocide orchestrated by the invading European settlers in Palestine - one that is maintained and supported by the powers that be?

I see some people bragging about Sufism? Give it up, fellas; the only time we hear about Sufism is when other Sunni Musims are under attack and all you do is to brag about how good you're. If you're that good, you shouldn't be supporting the many dimensional war on Sunni Islam that is orchestrated by the supporters of Dajjal.
Hey dude don't confuse us...
I already written above..Wahhabi, Salafi, Al-Quida, Boko Haram, Al-Shahab are all terrorist.. and they all been created by MOSSAD and CIA..
I am true follower of sufism and I know what is happening around the globe... and why they are doing it..
 
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No TTP and Deobandi are sign of love and Peace.
Most Deobandis are actually believers in peace and Islam. Deobandis are about 20% of Pakistan's population, for God's sake. TTP are extremists within that - they don't represent Deobandis any more than they represent Islam.

Now, if you have any understanding at all of what you are talking about, you would realize that the point I was making was that the TTP can not be Wahabi because they claim to be Hanafis - 'Wahabis', by definition, are ghair-muqallids, i.e they don't follow any of the four schools including the Hanafi school.

Wahhabi, Salafi, Al-Quida, Boko Haram, Al-Shahab are all terrorist
You don't know what you are talking about, do yourself a favour and stop talking about things you do not understand.

Salafis are about 100 Million of the world's Muslim population. If 100 Million Salafis were terrorists, we would all be too dead to be talking about this.

As for Salafis' actual stance on terrorism, read this: http://www.abukhadeejah.com/wp-cont...ad_ISIS_2014_Final_1_With_Bleed_No_Border.pdf

Sir, why don't you explain what is Wahabi Ideology
There is no such thing. There are many types of people who are labelled 'Wahabis', though very, very few of them actually call themselves that. Abdul Wahab was a scholar in the 1700s who strongly opposed what he called innovations in Islam. Honestly, a lot of his ideas are perfectly reasonable. He was opposed to the notion of 'Pirs' (a kind of 'spiritual leaders'; many of them are actual pious scholars, but there are many who simply take advantage of peoples' superstitions and don't have any basis in Islam) and 'Saints' being worshiped as though they were divine - however, he took it to the extreme through takfir, i.e outright declaring groups of Muslims to be non-Muslims.

He did not, however, have anything to do with suicide bombing or the type of violence we're seeing today.

But nowadays, the 'Wahabi' label is being expanded. It has become: "a blanket term used inaccurately to refer to "any Islamic movement that has an apparent tendency toward misogyny, militantism, extremism, or strict and literal interpretation of the Quran and hadith".

The label is also being incorrectly applied to all Salafis/Ghair Muqallids (i.e those who don't follow any of the mainstream four schools of thought and instead refer directly to the Quran and Hadith) and even Deobandis (even though they follow the Hanafi school, which is one of the four schools).
what I am getting feeling is the new Neo-wahabi ideology, that have created ISIS.
What is 'neo-Wahabi' even supposed to mean? New followers of Abdul Wahab? None of ISIS's statements or publications or anything identify them as followers of Abdul Wahab. You could argue they are similar in the sense that they are Salafis, but they also go against the Quran and Hadith - they are 'Islamic' only in name.

ISIS do whatever they want. They don't care about Wahab or Salafism (or any Islamic principles for that matter).

I am reading ISlam for couple of days, and should I request you to explain other 72 Sect in Islam, why are they, when on surface, the Muslims looks united, and one with Koran to guide -- Is the different interpretation of the holy Koran, is the problem.
Well, one major division is Shia-Sunni. After that, within Sunnism there are four schools of thought, Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki and Hanbali. Within the Hanafi school exist Barelvis and Deobandis, who are at odds with eachother.

The Shias have their own different sects based on the 12 Infallible Imams and concepts that simply do not exist in Sunni Islam or the Quran (but they can be ''inferred'' through interpretations).

That's the gist of the situation - if you want more detail, do your own research.
I think we should look at Deobandi and Wahabi schools of thought critically. What have these cults given to Islam other than murder and genocide?


Sufis are generally far less likely to bomb crowded market places and mosques rather than Wahabis.
Oh bhai jaan, Deobandis and Wahabis are about 20% of Pakistan. If they were a ''death cult'', you and I would be dead by now.

As for 'Sufis', which Sufis? I know of many supposed 'Sufi Scholars' who engage in sectarian hate-speech and takfir. Most of these supposed Sufi scholars (Barelvis) also support the un-Islamic Blasphemy Law.

Saying all Salafis/Wahabis/Deobandis are terrorists is the same as saying all Muslims are terrorists - we criticize non-Muslims for generalizing but then generalize among ourselves.

As for looking at them critically, that's been happening for hundreds of years now.
 
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I think we should look at Deobandi and Wahabi schools of thought critically. What have these cults given to Islam other than murder and genocide?


Sufis are generally far less likely to bomb crowded market places and mosques rather than Wahabis.
May I ask, which school of thought do you prescribe to?
 
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Most Deobandis are actually believers in peace and Islam. Deobandis are about 20% of Pakistan's population, for God's sake. TTP are extremists within that - they don't represent Deobandis any more than they represent Islam.

Now, if you have any understanding at all of what you are talking about, you would realize that the point I was making was that the TTP can not be Wahabi because they claim to be Hanafis - 'Wahabis', by definition, are ghair-muqallids, i.e they don't follow any of the four schools including the Hanafi school.


You don't know what you are talking about, do yourself a favour and stop talking about things you do not understand.

Salafis are about 100 Million of the world's Muslim population. If 100 Million Salafis were terrorists, we would all be too dead to be talking about this.

As for Salafis' actual stance on terrorism, read this: http://www.abukhadeejah.com/wp-cont...ad_ISIS_2014_Final_1_With_Bleed_No_Border.pdf


There is no such thing. There are many types of people who are labelled 'Wahabis', though very, very few of them actually call themselves that. Abdul Wahab was a scholar in the 1700s who strongly opposed what he called innovations in Islam. Honestly, a lot of his ideas are perfectly reasonable. He was opposed to the notion of 'Pirs' (a kind of 'spiritual leaders'; many of them are actual pious scholars, but there are many who simply take advantage of peoples' superstitions and don't have any basis in Islam) and 'Saints' being worshiped as though they were divine - however, he took it to the extreme through takfir, i.e outright declaring groups of Muslims to be non-Muslims.

He did not, however, have anything to do with suicide bombing or the type of violence we're seeing today.

But nowadays, the 'Wahabi' label is being expanded. It has become: "a blanket term used inaccurately to refer to "any Islamic movement that has an apparent tendency toward misogyny, militantism, extremism, or strict and literal interpretation of the Quran and hadith".

The label is also being incorrectly applied to all Salafis/Ghair Muqallids (i.e those who don't follow any of the mainstream four schools of thought and instead refer directly to the Quran and Hadith) and even Deobandis (even though they follow the Hanafi school, which is one of the four schools).

What is 'neo-Wahabi' even supposed to mean? New followers of Abdul Wahab? None of ISIS's statements or publications or anything identify them as followers of Abdul Wahab. You could argue they are similar in the sense that they are Salafis, but they also go against the Quran and Hadith - they are 'Islamic' only in name.

ISIS do whatever they want. They don't care about Wahab or Salafism (or any Islamic principles for that matter).


Well, one major division is Shia-Sunni. After that, within Sunnism there are four schools of thought, Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki and Hanbali. Within the Hanafi school exist Barelvis and Deobandis, who are at odds with eachother.

The Shias have their own different sects based on the 12 Infallible Imams and concepts that simply do not exist in Sunni Islam or the Quran (but they can be ''inferred'' through interpretations).

That's the gist of the situation - if you want more detail, do your own research.

Oh bhai jaan, Deobandis and Wahabis are about 20% of Pakistan. If they were a ''death cult'', you and I would be dead by now.

As for 'Sufis', which Sufis? I know of many supposed 'Sufi Scholars' who engage in sectarian hate-speech and takfir. Most of these supposed Sufi scholars (Barelvis) also support the un-Islamic Blasphemy Law.

Saying all Salafis/Wahabis/Deobandis are terrorists is the same as saying all Muslims are terrorists - we criticize non-Muslims for generalizing but then generalize among ourselves.

As for looking at them critically, that's been happening for hundreds of years now.
Our prophet Mohammad(PBUH) already said about fitna would be raised from najd and that is abdul whhab..
Read about Ashraf Ali Thanvi the founder of deobandi.. what was his teaching...in behasti zewar against our prophet mohammad(PBUH).. Even it is wrong to repeat that statement..
No true muslim can follow him...that what I can say..
 
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Our prophet Mohammad(PBUH) already said about fitna would be raised from najd and that is abdul whhab..
No, actually. He said there will be a fitna from 'the East', black banners, people who would recite the Quran but they would ''exit the deen like an arrow swiftly passes through its target'' - sounds more like a description of modern ISIS. Abdul Wahab had no black banners.

Full Hadith:

‘When you see the black flags, remain where you are and do not move your hands or your feet (It’s a common phrase meaning: “Stay put and don’t get involved in the fighting”). Thereafter there shall appear a feeble folk to whom no concern is given. Their hearts will be like fragments of iron. They are the representatives of the State (Ashab al-Dawla). They will fulfill neither covenant nor agreement. They will invite to the truth, though they are not from its people. Their names will be agnomens [i.e., Abu So-and-so], and their ascriptions will be to villages. Their hair will be long like that of women. [They shall remain so] till they differ among themselves, and then Allah will bring forth the truth from whomever He wills.’”

Ashraf Ali Thanvi the founder of deobandi.
I would believe you, but the Deobandi school was founded in 1867 and Ashraf Ali was born in 1863 - so unless he was a scholar at the age of four, that isn't possible.
in behasti zewar against our prophet mohammad(PBUH).. Even it is wrong to repeat that statement..
No true muslim can follow him...that what I can say..
Actually, the Deobandis say this is a false accusation and he did not write anything like that in his book.

"Clarification
Hadhrat Hakimul Ummah, Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (author of the famous
'Bahishti Zewar') did not write the abovementioned statement in Hifzul
Imaan.
Nor is it his belief. It is a slander on the said Moulana. In fact
Hadhrat Moulana has stated clearly in 'Hifzul Imaan' that, 'Knowledge with
regard to the Excellence of Prophethood has been bestowed totally upon Rasul

(Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) (Hifzul Imaan pg. 12)"

Accusation against Deoband [Archive] - sunniforum.com
False Allegations against Deobandi Ulama: ANSWERED

So, again, it appears you don't actually know what you are talking about and are repeating what Barelvi molvis have told you.
 
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Most Deobandis are actually believers in peace and Islam. Deobandis are about 20% of Pakistan's population, for God's sake. TTP are extremists within that - they don't represent Deobandis any more than they represent Islam.

Now, if you have any understanding at all of what you are talking about, you would realize that the point I was making was that the TTP can not be Wahabi because they claim to be Hanafis - 'Wahabis', by definition, are ghair-muqallids, i.e they don't follow any of the four schools including the Hanafi school.


You don't know what you are talking about, do yourself a favour and stop talking about things you do not understand.

Salafis are about 100 Million of the world's Muslim population. If 100 Million Salafis were terrorists, we would all be too dead to be talking about this.

As for Salafis' actual stance on terrorism, read this: http://www.abukhadeejah.com/wp-cont...ad_ISIS_2014_Final_1_With_Bleed_No_Border.pdf


There is no such thing. There are many types of people who are labelled 'Wahabis', though very, very few of them actually call themselves that. Abdul Wahab was a scholar in the 1700s who strongly opposed what he called innovations in Islam. Honestly, a lot of his ideas are perfectly reasonable. He was opposed to the notion of 'Pirs' (a kind of 'spiritual leaders'; many of them are actual pious scholars, but there are many who simply take advantage of peoples' superstitions and don't have any basis in Islam) and 'Saints' being worshiped as though they were divine - however, he took it to the extreme through takfir, i.e outright declaring groups of Muslims to be non-Muslims.

He did not, however, have anything to do with suicide bombing or the type of violence we're seeing today.

But nowadays, the 'Wahabi' label is being expanded. It has become: "a blanket term used inaccurately to refer to "any Islamic movement that has an apparent tendency toward misogyny, militantism, extremism, or strict and literal interpretation of the Quran and hadith".

The label is also being incorrectly applied to all Salafis/Ghair Muqallids (i.e those who don't follow any of the mainstream four schools of thought and instead refer directly to the Quran and Hadith) and even Deobandis (even though they follow the Hanafi school, which is one of the four schools).

What is 'neo-Wahabi' even supposed to mean? New followers of Abdul Wahab? None of ISIS's statements or publications or anything identify them as followers of Abdul Wahab. You could argue they are similar in the sense that they are Salafis, but they also go against the Quran and Hadith - they are 'Islamic' only in name.

ISIS do whatever they want. They don't care about Wahab or Salafism (or any Islamic principles for that matter).


Well, one major division is Shia-Sunni. After that, within Sunnism there are four schools of thought, Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki and Hanbali. Within the Hanafi school exist Barelvis and Deobandis, who are at odds with eachother.

The Shias have their own different sects based on the 12 Infallible Imams and concepts that simply do not exist in Sunni Islam or the Quran (but they can be ''inferred'' through interpretations).

That's the gist of the situation - if you want more detail, do your own research.

Oh bhai jaan, Deobandis and Wahabis are about 20% of Pakistan. If they were a ''death cult'', you and I would be dead by now.

As for 'Sufis', which Sufis? I know of many supposed 'Sufi Scholars' who engage in sectarian hate-speech and takfir. Most of these supposed Sufi scholars (Barelvis) also support the un-Islamic Blasphemy Law.

Saying all Salafis/Wahabis/Deobandis are terrorists is the same as saying all Muslims are terrorists - we criticize non-Muslims for generalizing but then generalize among ourselves.

As for looking at them critically, that's been happening for hundreds of years now.
Our prophet Mohammad(PBUH) already said about fitna would be raised from najd and that is abdul whhab..
Read about Ashraf Ali Thanvi the founder of deobandi.. what was his teaching...in behasti zewar against our prophet mohammad(PBUH).. Even it is wrong to repeat that statement..
No true muslim can follow him...thats what I can say..
The biggest threat to Islam from within these days is from the Wahabi, Deobandi, Tablighi, Salafi sects. This threat to an average Muslim is not obvious at all. These days they want to call themselves Sunnis to deceive gullible Muslims. It is worth mentioning to some of the misguided youngsters of the above renegade groups that the four Mazhabs, namely, the Shafi'i, the Hanafi, Maliki and Hambali, all follow the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and believe in Sunni Aqaa'id, and are not one of the 72 firqas (groups) destined for Hell.

The physical appearance of these renegades may deceive one as they decorate their deceitful faces with the Sunnat of the beard and perform compulsory acts such as Namaaz, in a most convincing manner. However, their corrupt beliefs prove that they have no true love for the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and they are the greatest insulters of the Holy Prophet and thrown out of Islam.

Who are these Deobandi/Wahabi people? This is the question raised by the Ulama of Masjid-e-Nabawi, Mufti Sheikh Umar bin Hamadan Al Maharassee, who gave a Fatwa of Kufr on Deobandi/Wahabi/Tabligh Jammaat leaders and founders nearly 100 years ago for insulting the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). This Fatwa was issued after years of study of Wahabi/Deobandi books and clarification sought from the writers of these books which were never received nor did they repent for their opinions. Some of their Aqeeda and opinions are printed in this bill.

The Wahabis/Deobandis of today are trying their best to hide what their leaders have said about the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Some of them do attend Meelad, pray Salaam on the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and even call themselves Sunni to deceive true Muslims. Majority of the Deos/Wobs are not aware of many contradictions within the Wahabi/Deobandi Aqeeda. They do not know that their leaders have a Fatwa of Kufr given on them. Most people know about Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. They do not know that the Fatwa issued in 1320 A.H. (1900 A.D.) by 33 prominent Ulama of Makkah and Medina Shareef applied to Deobandi/Wahabi leaders: Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Khalil Ahmed Ambetwi, Rashid Ahmed Gangohi and Qassim Nanotvi as well.

No Sunni Aalim, or for that matter any Muslim could think of even one abusive thing that the Wahabi/Deobandis have written, let alone speak or write about it. The Deobandis state that the Sunni Ulama have nothing to do but issue Fatwa. But when one considers the systematic proceedure undertaken before giving the Fatwa: years of research on their books of Aqaa'id, opportunity for renouncing the statements or valid reasons sought for the views from the leaders and the refusal by their leaders to respond or repent. After this the Saliheen Ulama of Haram Shareef were then forced to issue the Fatwa before the current present Saudi Wahabi/Najdi forced themselves into power with a lot of blood shed, bombing Makkah and Madina in the process.

The penalty for insulting the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is death and this is not something invented today but it has origins from the time of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who ordered a person to be beheaded in the Haram Shareef itself between Maqam-e-Ibrahim and Zam Zam! The person who doubts his (the person who said Kufr) infidelity is also an infidel. This is unanimously accepted by all Ulama and Mufti and there is no forgiveness for this infidelity. However, there is a way out for those who repent genuinely.

Anyone who doubts the seriousness for insulting the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) or harsh punishment for infidelity should recall the following incident. A Jew and a Munafiq went to the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to settle a dispute. The Prophet found the decision in favour of the Jew. The two then went to Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (radi Allahu anhu) who also gave a similar verdict. The Munafiq then asked the Jew that they should go to Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu). They told him the story and asked for his decision. The Jew, however, told Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu) that the Prophet of Allah had already decided in his favour. Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu) asked both to wait. He went inside, got his sword and chopped the head of the "Muslim" Munafiq! Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu) could not bear the insult of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) by the Munafiq due to his refusal to accept the Prophet's (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). He did not even hear out the Munafiq. Some people thought that Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu) had gone too far. However, Qur'anic Ayats were revealed to support his action!

There is so much uneasiness among the Wahabis about the birth of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) or his Meelad that there is no mention of his birth in many of the Wahabi Masaajids. In fact, in one of their Kuthbas, the Imaam mentioned that the Muslims were worshipping idols. This was an indirect attack on shrines of the Saints and the Prophet of Allah that the Sunnis have great respect for. The Wahabis call these shrines idols! The lack of respect and love for the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) by the Wahabi/Deobandi is clear to see.

Having read about the views and the actions of the Wahabi/Deobandi, one will need to consider his Aqeeda and action he will need to take to put his Aqaa'id on the path of Sirat-ul-Mustaqeem. One may need to take necessary, corrective steps. One cannot, for example, ignore the basic concepts such as Shafa'at of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) on the Day of Judgement which the Wahabi/Deobandi leaders have categorically rejected as stated in their Aqaa'id book, "Taqwiyatul Imaan", as Shirk, whilst there is specific mention in support of intercession by Allah Ta'ala in the Quran to this, and the words of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in the Hadith and in the books of Sunni Aqaa'id, and all the Ulamas, and Saints all accept intercession and it is part of Sunni Aqaa'id. The evidence in support of intercession is so overwhelming that no Muslim could reject it.

The Wobs/Dobs do not believe or follow the teachings of the Mujaddid Saints and the Awliya of Allah who brought the message of Islam through the centuries. So they have to make up their own Aqaa'id as they go along, mix and match from here and there and for this precise reason they get caught contradicting themselves time and again, issuing Fatwas of Kufr on themselves indirectly.

With the Wahabis utilising vast resources against Sunni Islam, it is time all Muslims took a very serious view of the Wahabi/Deobandi Ulama and their teachings. Would one entertain these remarks directed at themselves or at their parents, let alone the Prophet of Allah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)? While people of all religions are praising their Prophets, here we see them degrading our beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Would one drink from a tank of water which had only a drop poison or a drop of urine? Certainly not! So how could one dare to say or write even one word of insult against the Holy and pure personality of the Prophet of Allah? The Wahabis have written volumes of insults. One may find it difficult to extricate oneself from the machinery of Wahabism, his Wahabi friends and Aqaa'id. Like their fathers and founders, the current Wahabi leaders will never change. This could mean a loss of respect and finance from the Saudi Arabian government.

But for the Allah-fearing ordinary Muslim, he needs to make a new start, an important step that every Muslim needs to take to get rid of the Wahabi/Deobandi/Tablighi Aqaa'id. This applies to Sunnis as well who have acquired many wrong beliefs reading Wahabi/Deobandi books.

So, what is stopping Wahabis/Deobandis following the correct Sunni path? Nothing! Each is waiting for one of their friends or relations to make a move, each giving a sense of false support and security to the other when only their own deeds will save them in the Hereafter. It is dangerous to be lethargic in this matter. As stated previously, a person who makes or agrees with the statements like those stated by the Deobandi/Wahabi leaders, commits Kufr and a person who doubts their Kufr or tries to avoid calling them as Kaafirs, he himself becomes a Kaafir. This is not the Fatwa of the compilers of this bill, but the consensus of ALL Sunni Ulema since the time of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).

Some Wahabis will listen to a new person in his Mosque whom he doesn't know and who has just been converted to their way of thinking, joined the Tabligh Jammat and thinks that he is on a divine mission to save all Muslims when his knowledge of Islam is almost nil. He will not mind following the young Muslim who has been to a Wahabi madressa/Uloom for a couple of years, who knows a bit of Arabic and a smattering knowledge of Islam and goes about dishing out his own fatwas in local mosques and college and university campus, corrupting the minds of the youth, demeaning the status and the honour of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in the process.

Over the years, Wahabis and Sunni Ulema have confronted each other in Munazara (debates), in South Africa, India, UK, and many parts of the world. The Wahabis have always lost the debate, or not turned up at all. This happened in Blackburn (UK) last year when an audience of nearly 5 000 waited for the Deobandi Ulema who did not turn up for the well-publicised debate. A defeat for them would mean loss of prestige and followers to the Sunnis. A Wahabi/Deobandi is also brainwashed not to listen to Sunni Ulema, read about the Saints and the Wali Allah.

A person who comes to know about the Wahabi/Deobandi beliefs and then does not reject them, then his relationship with his family and fellow Muslims becomes untenable. It is Fardh for everyone to have knowledge and correct belief of Islam and to impart this to his children. The Mufti of Makkah Mukarramah, Mufti Jamaal bin Muhammad Hussain, has stated in his Fatwa that to expose the wrong Aqaa'id is Fardh-e-Kifaya (collective compulsory act) which imposes a duty on all Muslims to make people in their area and influence aware of the Wahabi/Deobandi views. The Ulema, the Imams, the Trustees and the Committee Members of Mosques, Muslim Organisations, Jamaats have a special duty to expose the corrupt beliefs of the Wahabis, by providing resources and Sunni publications and literature in English.

But we are nowadays surprised to find them joining in our Milad celebrations, doing Fatiha and eating Giyarwee Niaz, and any other way just to get near to us. But they will not celebrate these in their own homes or in their mosques. This is simply a ploy to deceive us. They have had quite bad publicity because of their blasphemous Aqeeda and are trying to win us over. They will never talk about these issues which are fundamentals of Muslim faith and Aqeeda. In fact, some Wahabi/Deobandi Molvis are having Zikr, Baal Mubarak Ziyarat, Khatamul Quran, etc. in their Masaajids just to deceive innocent Sunni Muslims. Previously, they regarded all these acts as Shirk and Bid'at and falsely quoted Quran and Hadith to show they are correct. Now, all of a sudden, it is O.K. What a deception! Previously, only Ijtima, Ghust, sleeping in a Jamaat Khana and Kitaab reading was a "Sunnah." Why do they do not reject these?

Insha-Allah, we want to help those who are sincere in their belief, who want to follow the right path and who want to protect their faith from these insolent people and not close their eyes and ears to everything that is written by Sunnis, which is followed by over 90% of all Muslims in the world. This article will also help Sunni readers, who don't read Urdu or Arabic and who have been bombarded with Wahabi/Deobandi literature, to correct and to repent for any aspect of their belief which has not been consistent with Sunni Aqaa'id.

The beliefs of these Wahabi/Deobandi are taken from their own original books, in Arabic, Urdu or Farsi. We have provided reference to quotations from their books. We have also found that the recent editions of their books have some of the derogatory remarks deleted.

The Deobandi/Wahabi/Tabligh Jammat beliefs are listed under the relevant headings together with comments and quotations from their own leaders and Aalims who have contradicted their own Aqeeda in many instances, and by doing so they have given a Fatwa of Kufr on themselves. Also, there are very many other points about their belief which we have not been able to include in this article.

"WE NEED TO FORM A NEW SECT (FIRQA)."

Deobandi/Wahabi leader and founder, Molvi Ilyas Khandalvi, states in his own book, "Deeni Dawat", that whilst speaking to his friend, Maulvi Zahirul Hussien (M.A. Aligarh) he stated: "Zahirul Hassan! We need to form a new sect." (Deeni Dawat, pg. 205) The founder of the Deobandi/Wahabi leader himself admits to forming a new firqa and this is a fact.

Molvi Ilyas has also stated: "Hazrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi has done a great job. I am pleased that the religious teachings are his and the method for the tabligh is mine, whereby the teachings of Ashraf Ali will spread far and wide." (Malfuzaat, Maulana Mohammad Ilyas, pg. 57)

It is absolutely clear that the method of propagation of Islam is not that followed by the Sahaba-Kiraams, the pious or the Saints like Ghaus-al-Azam, Sheikh Abdul Qaadir Jilani, who was given the title of Muhiyuddin (The Reviver of Islam), or other Mujaddid of Islam, but one which is their own creation.

"USE ANY MEANS OR METHOD TO ATTRACT PEOPLE."


The Molvi Ilyas goes on to say: "Think how to attract people towards religion and to get them involved in it (the same methods you use in worldly business) and attract people in the same way you can." (Malfuzaat, Mohammad Ilyas Khandalvi, pg. 129) Here there is no mention of methods or the Sunnah of the Prophet to promote Islam but any means.

Now let us see what Molvi Ilyas Khandalvi, says in his Malfuzaat: "The practise of preaching for me is so important that if one of us is performing Namaaz, and a new person happens to enter, and when if he is not about to leave, and there is no prospect of seeing him again, then in my belief, one should break Namaaz and talk to him. Having talked to him or having stopped him from leaving, one should then recite the prayers again." (Malfuzaat, Ilyas Khandalvi, pg. 171)

According to their Maulana, to think about the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in Namaaz is worse than adultery, but it is perfectly all right for them to think in their Namaaz about the person who has just come into the mosque and break their Namaaz!

Deobandi leader, Ashraf Ali Thanvi, writes: "A person complained to an elderly religious person that a certain person was undertaking Zikr for showing off. He replied, 'Don't you show off in your Zikr! That Zikr will help him cross the Pul-Sirat on the Day of Judgement.'" Maulana Thanvi then stated, "It seems the elderly person knew about the man's showing off. I would suggest that if in any work the intention of showing off comes to mind, then don't abandon that work. But carry out the work and make the intention that you will do the Tauba (repentance) afterwards." (Majalis-e-Haqimul-Ummat, pg. 33)

So even Ikhlas, the essential and pure intention of any prayer for the sake of Allah Ta 'ala, will not entertain any showing-off in Zikr by a person even if it equivalent to a mustard seed. The above prove to what extent the Wahabis will go towards spreading their religion.

"WE ARE THE HOLIER THAN THOU."


Hardly a Tabligh/Deobandi meeting or congregation would pass without the mention of the Ayaat from the Holy Qur'aan: "Quntum khaira ummati'n ukhrijit lin-nas-e ta'moruna bil-ma'a-roof'e wa tan'haina anil-munkar wa tu'aminnon billahi." The Ayaat mentions the Ummat of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) as being better than others because the people of the Ummah are asked to do good and stop people from commiting evil. Of course the reward for work of the Prophets attract God-fearing people.

At the same time the Deobandi/Tablighi are promoting their Tablighi work and Jamaat to gullible Muslims, and their own status. Their leaders, like Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi, have insulted the Prophet and Awliyas as "Worthless little than nothing." (Taqviyatul Imaan, pg 42). And he has further added: "I keep on stating that in these times any person who does a good deed, gets the reward of 50 Abu Bakr Siddiqs (radi Allahu anhu)." (Ashrafus-Suaneh, Part 2, pg. 99)

Not to be left behind with his Fatwa, Deobandi's Maulvi Qassim Nanotvi, states "... the followers can exceed the Prophets in their deeds." (Tahzeeru-n-Naas, Page 25) No doubt! Gullible Muslims fall for his talk and join Tabligh Jamaat!

"DENIAL OF THE LAST PROPHET."

Madrassa Darul-Uloom Deobandi's Maulvi Qassim Nanotvi writes: "If maybe after the Holy Prophet's era another did come then that would not make any difference to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) being the last Prophet, whether in his own era, his own area or other, another Prophet is proposed." (Tahzeeru'n-Naas, pg. 25) The Holy Qur'an states: "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, yes, he is the Messenger of Allah and the last one amongst the Prophets." (Part 22, Ruku 1)

WAHABI LEADER: "I HAVE COME LIKE A PROPHET TO YOU."

The founder of the Tabligh Jamaat, Maulana Ilyas, stated: "In my dream in the interpretation of the Qur'anic Ayaat, 'Quntum khaira umma-tin ukhri-jat linn'na'se taa'mo'runa bil-ma'a-rouf'e wa tan ha'i na anil munkar wa ta'a-minun billahi,' I was told I was sent as a Prophet to the people." (Mulfoozat-e-Ilyas, pg. 50)

NO PROOF OF KALIMA SHARIF:"LA ILAHA ILLALLAHO MOHAMMADUR RASOOLALLAH."

Wahabi and Deobandi Maulvi, Nazeer Hussain Delvi writes: "There is no proof for recitation (wazifa) of the whole Kalima, 'La Ilaha Illallaaho Muhammadur Rasoolallah,' for Wazifa purposes, there is proof for just 'La Ilaha Illallah'." (Fatwa Naziriah, pg. 449)

The above shows how much hatred they have for the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).

The Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has said:"Those who do not believe in my intercession will have no part in it." And also, "You will be with whom you love in the next world." So if you die living with Deobandi/Wahabi friends and Aqaa'id, you will be with them in the Hereafter. But beware! You will not find the Prophet of Allah, the Awliya of Allah and the lovers of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in that company! May Allah give Tawfiq and true love of our beloved Prophet, Sayyiduna Muhammad Mustafa (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to us all. Aameen. With Courtesy from SUNNI WORLD. P.O. BOX 48928. QUALBERT. 4078
 
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ISIS is proxy war for CIA and Mossad (Israeli Secret Intelligence Service).

Our prophet Mohammad(PBUH) already said about fitna would be raised from najd and that is abdul whhab..
Read about Ashraf Ali Thanvi the founder of deobandi.. what was his teaching...in behasti zewar against our prophet mohammad(PBUH).. Even it is wrong to repeat that statement..
No true muslim can follow him...thats what I can say..
The biggest threat to Islam from within these days is from the Wahabi, Deobandi, Tablighi, Salafi sects. This threat to an average Muslim is not obvious at all. These days they want to call themselves Sunnis to deceive gullible Muslims. It is worth mentioning to some of the misguided youngsters of the above renegade groups that the four Mazhabs, namely, the Shafi'i, the Hanafi, Maliki and Hambali, all follow the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and believe in Sunni Aqaa'id, and are not one of the 72 firqas (groups) destined for Hell.

The physical appearance of these renegades may deceive one as they decorate their deceitful faces with the Sunnat of the beard and perform compulsory acts such as Namaaz, in a most convincing manner. However, their corrupt beliefs prove that they have no true love for the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and they are the greatest insulters of the Holy Prophet and thrown out of Islam.

Who are these Deobandi/Wahabi people? This is the question raised by the Ulama of Masjid-e-Nabawi, Mufti Sheikh Umar bin Hamadan Al Maharassee, who gave a Fatwa of Kufr on Deobandi/Wahabi/Tabligh Jammaat leaders and founders nearly 100 years ago for insulting the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). This Fatwa was issued after years of study of Wahabi/Deobandi books and clarification sought from the writers of these books which were never received nor did they repent for their opinions. Some of their Aqeeda and opinions are printed in this bill.

The Wahabis/Deobandis of today are trying their best to hide what their leaders have said about the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Some of them do attend Meelad, pray Salaam on the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and even call themselves Sunni to deceive true Muslims. Majority of the Deos/Wobs are not aware of many contradictions within the Wahabi/Deobandi Aqeeda. They do not know that their leaders have a Fatwa of Kufr given on them. Most people know about Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. They do not know that the Fatwa issued in 1320 A.H. (1900 A.D.) by 33 prominent Ulama of Makkah and Medina Shareef applied to Deobandi/Wahabi leaders: Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Khalil Ahmed Ambetwi, Rashid Ahmed Gangohi and Qassim Nanotvi as well.

No Sunni Aalim, or for that matter any Muslim could think of even one abusive thing that the Wahabi/Deobandis have written, let alone speak or write about it. The Deobandis state that the Sunni Ulama have nothing to do but issue Fatwa. But when one considers the systematic proceedure undertaken before giving the Fatwa: years of research on their books of Aqaa'id, opportunity for renouncing the statements or valid reasons sought for the views from the leaders and the refusal by their leaders to respond or repent. After this the Saliheen Ulama of Haram Shareef were then forced to issue the Fatwa before the current present Saudi Wahabi/Najdi forced themselves into power with a lot of blood shed, bombing Makkah and Madina in the process.

The penalty for insulting the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is death and this is not something invented today but it has origins from the time of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who ordered a person to be beheaded in the Haram Shareef itself between Maqam-e-Ibrahim and Zam Zam! The person who doubts his (the person who said Kufr) infidelity is also an infidel. This is unanimously accepted by all Ulama and Mufti and there is no forgiveness for this infidelity. However, there is a way out for those who repent genuinely.

Anyone who doubts the seriousness for insulting the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) or harsh punishment for infidelity should recall the following incident. A Jew and a Munafiq went to the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to settle a dispute. The Prophet found the decision in favour of the Jew. The two then went to Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (radi Allahu anhu) who also gave a similar verdict. The Munafiq then asked the Jew that they should go to Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu). They told him the story and asked for his decision. The Jew, however, told Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu) that the Prophet of Allah had already decided in his favour. Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu) asked both to wait. He went inside, got his sword and chopped the head of the "Muslim" Munafiq! Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu) could not bear the insult of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) by the Munafiq due to his refusal to accept the Prophet's (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). He did not even hear out the Munafiq. Some people thought that Sayyiduna Umar (radi Allahu anhu) had gone too far. However, Qur'anic Ayats were revealed to support his action!

There is so much uneasiness among the Wahabis about the birth of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) or his Meelad that there is no mention of his birth in many of the Wahabi Masaajids. In fact, in one of their Kuthbas, the Imaam mentioned that the Muslims were worshipping idols. This was an indirect attack on shrines of the Saints and the Prophet of Allah that the Sunnis have great respect for. The Wahabis call these shrines idols! The lack of respect and love for the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) by the Wahabi/Deobandi is clear to see.

Having read about the views and the actions of the Wahabi/Deobandi, one will need to consider his Aqeeda and action he will need to take to put his Aqaa'id on the path of Sirat-ul-Mustaqeem. One may need to take necessary, corrective steps. One cannot, for example, ignore the basic concepts such as Shafa'at of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) on the Day of Judgement which the Wahabi/Deobandi leaders have categorically rejected as stated in their Aqaa'id book, "Taqwiyatul Imaan", as Shirk, whilst there is specific mention in support of intercession by Allah Ta'ala in the Quran to this, and the words of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in the Hadith and in the books of Sunni Aqaa'id, and all the Ulamas, and Saints all accept intercession and it is part of Sunni Aqaa'id. The evidence in support of intercession is so overwhelming that no Muslim could reject it.

The Wobs/Dobs do not believe or follow the teachings of the Mujaddid Saints and the Awliya of Allah who brought the message of Islam through the centuries. So they have to make up their own Aqaa'id as they go along, mix and match from here and there and for this precise reason they get caught contradicting themselves time and again, issuing Fatwas of Kufr on themselves indirectly.

With the Wahabis utilising vast resources against Sunni Islam, it is time all Muslims took a very serious view of the Wahabi/Deobandi Ulama and their teachings. Would one entertain these remarks directed at themselves or at their parents, let alone the Prophet of Allah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)? While people of all religions are praising their Prophets, here we see them degrading our beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Would one drink from a tank of water which had only a drop poison or a drop of urine? Certainly not! So how could one dare to say or write even one word of insult against the Holy and pure personality of the Prophet of Allah? The Wahabis have written volumes of insults. One may find it difficult to extricate oneself from the machinery of Wahabism, his Wahabi friends and Aqaa'id. Like their fathers and founders, the current Wahabi leaders will never change. This could mean a loss of respect and finance from the Saudi Arabian government.

But for the Allah-fearing ordinary Muslim, he needs to make a new start, an important step that every Muslim needs to take to get rid of the Wahabi/Deobandi/Tablighi Aqaa'id. This applies to Sunnis as well who have acquired many wrong beliefs reading Wahabi/Deobandi books.

So, what is stopping Wahabis/Deobandis following the correct Sunni path? Nothing! Each is waiting for one of their friends or relations to make a move, each giving a sense of false support and security to the other when only their own deeds will save them in the Hereafter. It is dangerous to be lethargic in this matter. As stated previously, a person who makes or agrees with the statements like those stated by the Deobandi/Wahabi leaders, commits Kufr and a person who doubts their Kufr or tries to avoid calling them as Kaafirs, he himself becomes a Kaafir. This is not the Fatwa of the compilers of this bill, but the consensus of ALL Sunni Ulema since the time of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).

Some Wahabis will listen to a new person in his Mosque whom he doesn't know and who has just been converted to their way of thinking, joined the Tabligh Jammat and thinks that he is on a divine mission to save all Muslims when his knowledge of Islam is almost nil. He will not mind following the young Muslim who has been to a Wahabi madressa/Uloom for a couple of years, who knows a bit of Arabic and a smattering knowledge of Islam and goes about dishing out his own fatwas in local mosques and college and university campus, corrupting the minds of the youth, demeaning the status and the honour of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in the process.

Over the years, Wahabis and Sunni Ulema have confronted each other in Munazara (debates), in South Africa, India, UK, and many parts of the world. The Wahabis have always lost the debate, or not turned up at all. This happened in Blackburn (UK) last year when an audience of nearly 5 000 waited for the Deobandi Ulema who did not turn up for the well-publicised debate. A defeat for them would mean loss of prestige and followers to the Sunnis. A Wahabi/Deobandi is also brainwashed not to listen to Sunni Ulema, read about the Saints and the Wali Allah.

A person who comes to know about the Wahabi/Deobandi beliefs and then does not reject them, then his relationship with his family and fellow Muslims becomes untenable. It is Fardh for everyone to have knowledge and correct belief of Islam and to impart this to his children. The Mufti of Makkah Mukarramah, Mufti Jamaal bin Muhammad Hussain, has stated in his Fatwa that to expose the wrong Aqaa'id is Fardh-e-Kifaya (collective compulsory act) which imposes a duty on all Muslims to make people in their area and influence aware of the Wahabi/Deobandi views. The Ulema, the Imams, the Trustees and the Committee Members of Mosques, Muslim Organisations, Jamaats have a special duty to expose the corrupt beliefs of the Wahabis, by providing resources and Sunni publications and literature in English.

But we are nowadays surprised to find them joining in our Milad celebrations, doing Fatiha and eating Giyarwee Niaz, and any other way just to get near to us. But they will not celebrate these in their own homes or in their mosques. This is simply a ploy to deceive us. They have had quite bad publicity because of their blasphemous Aqeeda and are trying to win us over. They will never talk about these issues which are fundamentals of Muslim faith and Aqeeda. In fact, some Wahabi/Deobandi Molvis are having Zikr, Baal Mubarak Ziyarat, Khatamul Quran, etc. in their Masaajids just to deceive innocent Sunni Muslims. Previously, they regarded all these acts as Shirk and Bid'at and falsely quoted Quran and Hadith to show they are correct. Now, all of a sudden, it is O.K. What a deception! Previously, only Ijtima, Ghust, sleeping in a Jamaat Khana and Kitaab reading was a "Sunnah." Why do they do not reject these?

Insha-Allah, we want to help those who are sincere in their belief, who want to follow the right path and who want to protect their faith from these insolent people and not close their eyes and ears to everything that is written by Sunnis, which is followed by over 90% of all Muslims in the world. This article will also help Sunni readers, who don't read Urdu or Arabic and who have been bombarded with Wahabi/Deobandi literature, to correct and to repent for any aspect of their belief which has not been consistent with Sunni Aqaa'id.

The beliefs of these Wahabi/Deobandi are taken from their own original books, in Arabic, Urdu or Farsi. We have provided reference to quotations from their books. We have also found that the recent editions of their books have some of the derogatory remarks deleted.

The Deobandi/Wahabi/Tabligh Jammat beliefs are listed under the relevant headings together with comments and quotations from their own leaders and Aalims who have contradicted their own Aqeeda in many instances, and by doing so they have given a Fatwa of Kufr on themselves. Also, there are very many other points about their belief which we have not been able to include in this article.

"WE NEED TO FORM A NEW SECT (FIRQA)."

Deobandi/Wahabi leader and founder, Molvi Ilyas Khandalvi, states in his own book, "Deeni Dawat", that whilst speaking to his friend, Maulvi Zahirul Hussien (M.A. Aligarh) he stated: "Zahirul Hassan! We need to form a new sect." (Deeni Dawat, pg. 205) The founder of the Deobandi/Wahabi leader himself admits to forming a new firqa and this is a fact.

Molvi Ilyas has also stated: "Hazrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi has done a great job. I am pleased that the religious teachings are his and the method for the tabligh is mine, whereby the teachings of Ashraf Ali will spread far and wide." (Malfuzaat, Maulana Mohammad Ilyas, pg. 57)

It is absolutely clear that the method of propagation of Islam is not that followed by the Sahaba-Kiraams, the pious or the Saints like Ghaus-al-Azam, Sheikh Abdul Qaadir Jilani, who was given the title of Muhiyuddin (The Reviver of Islam), or other Mujaddid of Islam, but one which is their own creation.

"USE ANY MEANS OR METHOD TO ATTRACT PEOPLE."


The Molvi Ilyas goes on to say: "Think how to attract people towards religion and to get them involved in it (the same methods you use in worldly business) and attract people in the same way you can." (Malfuzaat, Mohammad Ilyas Khandalvi, pg. 129) Here there is no mention of methods or the Sunnah of the Prophet to promote Islam but any means.

Now let us see what Molvi Ilyas Khandalvi, says in his Malfuzaat: "The practise of preaching for me is so important that if one of us is performing Namaaz, and a new person happens to enter, and when if he is not about to leave, and there is no prospect of seeing him again, then in my belief, one should break Namaaz and talk to him. Having talked to him or having stopped him from leaving, one should then recite the prayers again." (Malfuzaat, Ilyas Khandalvi, pg. 171)

According to their Maulana, to think about the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in Namaaz is worse than adultery, but it is perfectly all right for them to think in their Namaaz about the person who has just come into the mosque and break their Namaaz!

Deobandi leader, Ashraf Ali Thanvi, writes: "A person complained to an elderly religious person that a certain person was undertaking Zikr for showing off. He replied, 'Don't you show off in your Zikr! That Zikr will help him cross the Pul-Sirat on the Day of Judgement.'" Maulana Thanvi then stated, "It seems the elderly person knew about the man's showing off. I would suggest that if in any work the intention of showing off comes to mind, then don't abandon that work. But carry out the work and make the intention that you will do the Tauba (repentance) afterwards." (Majalis-e-Haqimul-Ummat, pg. 33)

So even Ikhlas, the essential and pure intention of any prayer for the sake of Allah Ta 'ala, will not entertain any showing-off in Zikr by a person even if it equivalent to a mustard seed. The above prove to what extent the Wahabis will go towards spreading their religion.

"WE ARE THE HOLIER THAN THOU."


Hardly a Tabligh/Deobandi meeting or congregation would pass without the mention of the Ayaat from the Holy Qur'aan: "Quntum khaira ummati'n ukhrijit lin-nas-e ta'moruna bil-ma'a-roof'e wa tan'haina anil-munkar wa tu'aminnon billahi." The Ayaat mentions the Ummat of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) as being better than others because the people of the Ummah are asked to do good and stop people from commiting evil. Of course the reward for work of the Prophets attract God-fearing people.

At the same time the Deobandi/Tablighi are promoting their Tablighi work and Jamaat to gullible Muslims, and their own status. Their leaders, like Maulvi Ashraf Ali Thanvi, have insulted the Prophet and Awliyas as "Worthless little than nothing." (Taqviyatul Imaan, pg 42). And he has further added: "I keep on stating that in these times any person who does a good deed, gets the reward of 50 Abu Bakr Siddiqs (radi Allahu anhu)." (Ashrafus-Suaneh, Part 2, pg. 99)

Not to be left behind with his Fatwa, Deobandi's Maulvi Qassim Nanotvi, states "... the followers can exceed the Prophets in their deeds." (Tahzeeru-n-Naas, Page 25) No doubt! Gullible Muslims fall for his talk and join Tabligh Jamaat!

"DENIAL OF THE LAST PROPHET."

Madrassa Darul-Uloom Deobandi's Maulvi Qassim Nanotvi writes: "If maybe after the Holy Prophet's era another did come then that would not make any difference to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) being the last Prophet, whether in his own era, his own area or other, another Prophet is proposed." (Tahzeeru'n-Naas, pg. 25) The Holy Qur'an states: "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, yes, he is the Messenger of Allah and the last one amongst the Prophets." (Part 22, Ruku 1)

WAHABI LEADER: "I HAVE COME LIKE A PROPHET TO YOU."

The founder of the Tabligh Jamaat, Maulana Ilyas, stated: "In my dream in the interpretation of the Qur'anic Ayaat, 'Quntum khaira umma-tin ukhri-jat linn'na'se taa'mo'runa bil-ma'a-rouf'e wa tan ha'i na anil munkar wa ta'a-minun billahi,' I was told I was sent as a Prophet to the people." (Mulfoozat-e-Ilyas, pg. 50)

NO PROOF OF KALIMA SHARIF:"LA ILAHA ILLALLAHO MOHAMMADUR RASOOLALLAH."

Wahabi and Deobandi Maulvi, Nazeer Hussain Delvi writes: "There is no proof for recitation (wazifa) of the whole Kalima, 'La Ilaha Illallaaho Muhammadur Rasoolallah,' for Wazifa purposes, there is proof for just 'La Ilaha Illallah'." (Fatwa Naziriah, pg. 449)

The above shows how much hatred they have for the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).

The Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has said:"Those who do not believe in my intercession will have no part in it." And also, "You will be with whom you love in the next world." So if you die living with Deobandi/Wahabi friends and Aqaa'id, you will be with them in the Hereafter. But beware! You will not find the Prophet of Allah, the Awliya of Allah and the lovers of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in that company! May Allah give Tawfiq and true love of our beloved Prophet, Sayyiduna Muhammad Mustafa (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) to us all. Aameen. With Courtesy from SUNNI WORLD. P.O. BOX 48928. QUALBERT. 4078

Stop speading false information...........
Mohammad ibn Abdul wahab has done a great job to stop [eople from committing shrik and bidat (read the history or listen to audio lecture of Mufti Mohammad Saeed)


This Wahabi term came from British Indian Government who paid their molvi Ahmad Raza Khan to spread it. Why didn't they call him by his first name "Mohammad"? why use his father name?
British knew that even a iletrate Muslim know who is "Mohammad (saw)" So they couldn't use Mohamad to defame him so they used "Wahab" not his father's full Name Abdul Wahab, just wahab and made "wahabi" from it.


Listen to Mufti Zar Wali Khan

 
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@Arsalan mehmud I told you you were blindly repeating what Barelvi molvis say and you just copy-pasted their words instead. That's not an improvement.

Anyway, there is so much falsehood and so many contradictions in these statements - I'll present a few examples.
The penalty for insulting the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) is death and this is not something invented today but it has origins from the time of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) who ordered a person to be beheaded in the Haram Shareef itself between Maqam-e-Ibrahim and Zam Zam! The person who doubts his (the person who said Kufr) infidelity is also an infidel.
No, the punishment for insulting the Prophet (s.a.w) is not death. The Prophet himself forgave most of those people who insulted him, and the Quran says:

"When ye hear the signs of Allah held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn to a different theme." [Qur'an 4:140]
"And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: "to us our deeds and to you yours; peace be to you." [Qur'an 28: 55]
"Hold to forgiveness, command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant." [Qur'an 7:199]
"Have patience with what they say, and leaves them with noble (dignity)." [Qur'an 73:10]
"And the servants of Allah . . . are those who walked on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say 'Peace'" [Qur'an 25:63]
"Allah is with those who restrain themselves." [Qur'an 16: 128]
". . . But they uttered blasphemy . . . if they repent, it will be best for them, but if they turn back, Allah will punish them." [Qur'an 9:47]

And this is what the Hadith say:
"Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 61 :
Narrated by 'Aisha

A group of Jews asked permission to visit the Prophet (and when they were admitted) they said, "As-Samu 'Alaika (Death be upon you)." I (Aisha) said (to them), "But death and the curse of Allah be upon you!" The Prophet said, "O 'Aisha! Allah is kind and lenient and likes that one should be kind and lenient in all matters." I (Aisha) said, "Haven't you heard what they said?" He said, "I said (to them), 'Wa 'Alaikum (and upon you)."

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 60 :
Narrated by Anas bin Malik

A Jew passed by Allah's Apostle and said, "As-Samu 'Alaika." Allah's Apostle said in reply, "We 'Alaika." Allah's Apostle then said to his companions, "Do you know what he (the Jew) has said? He said, 'As-Samu 'Alaika.'" They said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we kill him?" The Prophet, said, "No. When the people of the Book greet you, say: 'Wa 'Alaikum.'"

The people who were executed were executed for their other crimes, including treason against the state - not Blasphemy.

And there is no mention of any executions inside the Haram Sharif in any Hadith. If you have reference from any Hadith (preferably Sahih), please provide it to me.

The Prophet (s.a.w) himself denied the death penalty for Blasphemy - so, according to the Barelvi Logic you just copy-pasted, he himself is an Infidel (Astaghfirullah).

The part I highlighted in Red is a clear example of Takfir - how can these people criticize Deobandis for Takfir when they themselves practice Takfir?
There is so much uneasiness among the Wahabis about the birth of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) or his Meelad that there is no mention of his birth in many of the Wahabi Masaajids.
Okay, there is no mention of Meelad in Wahabi Masaajids - I want you to give me one mention of it in the Quran or Hadith. There is none.

This was an indirect attack on shrines of the Saints and the Prophet of Allah that the Sunnis have great respect for. The Wahabis call these shrines idols!
Please provide evidence from the Quran and Hadith that these Shrines and Saints are a part of Islam.

I have no problem with having pious people and praying for them at their graves or ''shrines''. I do have a problem when you say they are a part of Islam. Nobody can declare something to be obligatory in Islam if Allah or the Prophet himself has not declared it to be obligatory. Shrines are not obligatory.


The rest of it is attacks and counter-attacks on particular scholars. I don't follow any one of those scholars, so I will not be involved in that.

By the way, you have not given a single proof of Wahhabism being involved in Terrorism. This entire Paragraph talks about unrelated matters, such as the Meelad and Shrines. Nothing to do with Terrorism.

And they criticise 'Wahabis' for not supporting the Blasphemy law. That makes it look like the opposite of what you were previously saying.

I maintain that you, sir, have no idea what you are talking about.

With Courtesy from SUNNI WORLD
I looked up SUNNI WORLD. Here is what I found on their page:

"only people of AHLE SUNNAT WAL JAMMAT is allowed here.... wahabhi deobandi tabligi najdi or any of badh mazhab is NOT ALLOWED...
Only people of 'Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat' are allowed, everyone else is ''Badh mazhab'' - that is the same thing as Takfir and ''Holier than Thou''.

Munafiqat ki hadd hoti hai.
 
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May I ask, which school of thought do you prescribe to?
Just a muslim. Thanks.

Most Deobandis are actually believers in peace and Islam. Deobandis are about 20% of Pakistan's population, for God's sake. TTP are extremists within that - they don't represent Deobandis any more than they represent Islam.

Now, if you have any understanding at all of what you are talking about, you would realize that the point I was making was that the TTP can not be Wahabi because they claim to be Hanafis - 'Wahabis', by definition, are ghair-muqallids, i.e they don't follow any of the four schools including the Hanafi school.


You don't know what you are talking about, do yourself a favour and stop talking about things you do not understand.

Salafis are about 100 Million of the world's Muslim population. If 100 Million Salafis were terrorists, we would all be too dead to be talking about this.

As for Salafis' actual stance on terrorism, read this: http://www.abukhadeejah.com/wp-cont...ad_ISIS_2014_Final_1_With_Bleed_No_Border.pdf


There is no such thing. There are many types of people who are labelled 'Wahabis', though very, very few of them actually call themselves that. Abdul Wahab was a scholar in the 1700s who strongly opposed what he called innovations in Islam. Honestly, a lot of his ideas are perfectly reasonable. He was opposed to the notion of 'Pirs' (a kind of 'spiritual leaders'; many of them are actual pious scholars, but there are many who simply take advantage of peoples' superstitions and don't have any basis in Islam) and 'Saints' being worshiped as though they were divine - however, he took it to the extreme through takfir, i.e outright declaring groups of Muslims to be non-Muslims.

He did not, however, have anything to do with suicide bombing or the type of violence we're seeing today.

But nowadays, the 'Wahabi' label is being expanded. It has become: "a blanket term used inaccurately to refer to "any Islamic movement that has an apparent tendency toward misogyny, militantism, extremism, or strict and literal interpretation of the Quran and hadith".

The label is also being incorrectly applied to all Salafis/Ghair Muqallids (i.e those who don't follow any of the mainstream four schools of thought and instead refer directly to the Quran and Hadith) and even Deobandis (even though they follow the Hanafi school, which is one of the four schools).

What is 'neo-Wahabi' even supposed to mean? New followers of Abdul Wahab? None of ISIS's statements or publications or anything identify them as followers of Abdul Wahab. You could argue they are similar in the sense that they are Salafis, but they also go against the Quran and Hadith - they are 'Islamic' only in name.

ISIS do whatever they want. They don't care about Wahab or Salafism (or any Islamic principles for that matter).


Well, one major division is Shia-Sunni. After that, within Sunnism there are four schools of thought, Hanafi, Shafii, Maliki and Hanbali. Within the Hanafi school exist Barelvis and Deobandis, who are at odds with eachother.

The Shias have their own different sects based on the 12 Infallible Imams and concepts that simply do not exist in Sunni Islam or the Quran (but they can be ''inferred'' through interpretations).

That's the gist of the situation - if you want more detail, do your own research.

Oh bhai jaan, Deobandis and Wahabis are about 20% of Pakistan. If they were a ''death cult'', you and I would be dead by now.

As for 'Sufis', which Sufis? I know of many supposed 'Sufi Scholars' who engage in sectarian hate-speech and takfir. Most of these supposed Sufi scholars (Barelvis) also support the un-Islamic Blasphemy Law.

Saying all Salafis/Wahabis/Deobandis are terrorists is the same as saying all Muslims are terrorists - we criticize non-Muslims for generalizing but then generalize among ourselves.

As for looking at them critically, that's been happening for hundreds of years now.
Surely we cannot ignore the atrocities Wahabis have committed in the name of purifying Pakistan. Why do most terrorists come from these schools of thought? I believe wahabis have a major role in fanaticizing society. Once you begin to declare people kaffir or infidel you never stop-it starts with others and ends with proper sunni muslims.

What gives Ibn Abdul Wahab the right to declare others infidel, desecrate the prophets grave and rape women. The man was a kharijite and enemy of Islam. I agree there may be people in other sects with the same problem but the majority come from Wahabi seminaries-almost all terrorists are from this hardline group of terrorists.
 
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