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They call us Ah Q yet they still use our surnames!:cheesy: What next the Chinese stole surnames from Baiyue?:woot:

Yawn,why do I have to debunk your lies in every thread,really all you do is repeat the same asinine claims while adding nothing new. The Vietnamese have very little to do with the Luoyue if there's even a connection,heavy Chinese migration is shown through various stratums of Chinese language...

This is what happens when countries cover up history in an attempt to push out the narrative of a nation state. He is merely projecting his insecurities that the Chinese "stole" their culture from the Baiyue and that Vietnamese borrowed nothing from China. In reality we have a confused group...

The wikiveristy link was removed from wikipedia due to lack of original research,not maintaining a neutral point of view etc. Sigh,you are truly too ignorant to comprehend the flawed values ie dates to Han Wudi,50 iron offices,1 furnace per office etc. Wagner even mentions that there were...

He can't read Chinese yet he pretends he's knowledgeable about history ie using statistics that wikipedia had to remove for bias. When confronted about this he blames me for not providing a link to the papers.(They are pay to view and no amount of translating programs is going to circumvent...

There's so much nonsense you spew I don't even know where to begin. Where are the battles which Italian states repulsed Mongols,oh wait they never existed and the brunt of the offensives were against Eastern European states. Mongols and Manchus had large contingents full of ethnic Chinese...

Posting a article that was removed from wikipedia for bias isn't a good start. There are already posts about their flawed methodology that Needham/Wagner used not to mention you confuse the western and eastern Han which already shows how shoddy your knowledge is. Do I really need to post the...

My definition of ignorance is just posting whatever they see first and not questioning its veracity until being called out on. What I don't understand is why you claim that a troll is Indian when they're clearly not.

Whether or not someone is ethnically Indian has no pertinence to this thread,jingoism and stupidity exists in all kinds of people. There are people participating that are honestly ignorant and post outdated information while others either post comments to inflame or make themselves feel superior.

You don't seem to realize both "stats" are guesstimates in which Needham severely underestimated Chinese production while the stat given for the Romans is derived off an area known producing metals. So basically you're comparing wrong time periods while giving the less than the bare minimum for...

Somehow a guesstimate for Roman Britain is extended to represent the entire Roman Empire. Not to mention that the Roman Empire was contemporary of the Eastern Han while the statistics are for Western Han. The equations were flawed to begin with Needham assumed that each iron office only had...

There's research from mainland China that supercedes Wagner,as well as the the nature of their estimates. You fail to realize that the "statistics" quoted by the wiki are crude estimates of Western Han sites which are derived from Joseph Needham's estimates. Needham specfically states that...

The wikiversity link is full of nonsense ie for iron output Wagner even states that his guesstimates were not to be taken at face value as recent research in mainland China have shown that there were more existing sites than previously believed.

I find this an exercise in futility neither the Han dynasty nor the Roman empire was static or immune to foreign threats,logistics alone would dictate that a full out invasion of the other's empire would end disastrously.

No it isn't why do you think the northeastern provinces.Xinjiang,Xizang etc. are missing?

Then you would know why its missing lands

Yue was never a coherent entity,while both are Chinese concepts.

Why are Vietnamese always posting this map if they can't read the title?

Since when is the 通志 equivalent to the 尚書,the 尚書 never recorded that Emperor Yao received a Yuechang embassy. How is the 欽定越史通鑑綱目 a unreliable source?