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The first post in this thread is dated '05. I sincerely hope they make a decision sometime this decade so we can start producing the fighters by 2030. Seriously, WTF! I can't believe this has dragged on for so long.

Read the articles, if religion isn't a motivating factor in honor killings I don't know what it.

@AstanoshKhan I'm not sure if you've read the articles you posted but religion does seem to be a motivating factor (and is thus relevant) in most, if not all, of the stories.

^^Exactly, guys please respect the dead and bury this topic before the trolls awaken.

I don't buy that for a single second. Pakistan has the 7th largest armed forces on the planet, nuclear weapons and the firepower to take on India yet you can't launch an op against a bunch of jihadi types? I think all that the PA is really doing is buying time as of now. They have everything...

Actually I think its quite the reverse. The issue is that the west has moved on and Muslims haven't. Is it any wonder then why a post-modern, liberal society has trouble digesting a value system that at times can come across as a tad bit 'archaic'. I think the views expressed are a lot more...

I agree, and this just in... BBC News - Israel passes bill on withdrawal from land

I think its important to be practical in today's day and age. You're talking about a developed nation with a very capable military. No one is about to deny them their homeland. I think the focus should be on finding pragmatic solutions rather than fantasizing about another holocaust.

From the tone of his posts, it sounds like he's desperately trying to find some common ground so he can have the 'neighbors' believe that Pakistan is still a part of the equation.

My point exactly. Back channel diplomacy is not the same as full fledged diplomatic relations. Precisely why Israel's strongest partners are outside the Muslim world. Surprisingly, Pakistanis seem very keen on establishing relations with Israel. I sincerely expected a much more hostile...

What makes you say that? Pakistan has been dilly dallying on the NW op for quite sometime now. Sooner or later, the PA will be sent in. I can't speak for others, but I'll be watching with great interest :tup:

I agree, no country can prosper if it has enemies in its own backyard and in that respect it certainly is in Israel's interest to reach out to the Muslim world and normalize its relations like it has with Egypt. However, I was talking about a comprehensive strategic alliance, like the one India...

Oh certainly, but wouldn't we be concerned if our neighbor was being armed with some of the most sophisticated weapons on the planet?

If anything Nepal/Bhutan is to us what Afghanistan is to them. All that the Pakistanis share with the Arabs and Turks is religion. I've yet to come across an Arab who can find any common ground with a Pakistani besides Islam of course. Our Pakistani friends have sought to differentiate...

^^I'm pretty sure the number was higher a few years ago, I wonder if we've made any progress in this regard. Edit: Yup, turns out we have. It was 24,000 three years ago. http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Army-facing-shortage-of-officers/219929/

These are just excuses, all they're doing is buying time. They aren't prepared to deal with the repercussions of such an adventure as yet. Sooner or later, either through economic 'compulsions' or major terrorist attacks, they'll lose any remaining leverage they have left and charge into NW. Its...

I love how she opposes development at every conceivable step and then b*****s and moans about the 'plight' of the tribals.

^^That's the spirit. Attack the messenger, the message is a conspiracy against us.

Christ, yet another conspiracy theory? "They are not state-funded, and do not use Government buildings. They are able to exploit a loophole which means weekend schools are not inspected by Ofsted.Last night, experts at the Policy Exchange think-tank warned that similar extremists could...

They're out protesting against Islamophobia...