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We routinely pay homage to our shuhda'a, what's the point?

Exactly, that is the crux of whole argument. You have summed it up very well. People are not realising the fact that enemy is not just attacking us on the border, he is also busy on ideological fronts. Some members here are creating and promoting a false and malicious ideological narrative. They...

Thanks for your kind words. :-) Agreed. However, I would like to add some points. Surely, Khwarij are dogs of hell but we cant link them with other Sunni school of thoughts. There is a clear distinction in theology between Khwarij and other Sunni school of thoughts. In every group there are...

How miserable :-)

Agreed. However, I was talking about Indus Pakistan. He is also a secularist. This fact makes them equal in my eyes.

The guy you are quoting is also a secularist.

Islam is dead in Pakistan and still you people have not been able to repeal all Islamic laws from the constitution and CRPC. Dont know in which Pakistan are you living, but Pakistanis still love Islam, Muslim Ummah and are most religious people in the entire world.

Agreed. However, we need to face and confront the home grown challenge and "Fitnah" of extreme ethnic nationalism and secularism. These two ideologies have created enough traitors in our ranks that we cannot close our eyes. From Altaf Hussain to Hussain Haqqani, from Sindhi nationalist to likes...

Totally agreed.

Iske Bap K Jahaiz Ma Aaya tha Jaise...!!!

Just the same rubbish for me. All of them are secular. A more accurate word maybe secularist.

I can quote some examples, then I think it would be easier for you to draw a conclusion. Marvi Sarmad, Jibran Nasir, Reema Omar, Taimur Rehman, Gul Bukhari, Najam Sethi, Ahmad Noorani, Muhammad Malik, Babar Sattar, Kashif Abbasi, Shahzeb Khanzada, Bilawal Bhuto, Raza Ahmad Rumi, Mubashar Zaidi...

They can be

You should also walk way when you hear the word of secularism. Because that is the ideology behind their stupidity.

Firstly, it is a news for me that expressing opinion against Indus Valley Civilization is Fitnah. I didnt knew previously that IVC has religious sanctity in your version of Islam. Nevertheless, your advice is well received. Inshallah, I will strive hard against the Fitnah of secularism...

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Are you representative of the whole of Pakistan? Who gave you the authority to exclude Pakistanis from Pakistan?

If you try to spend that much effort on thinking and reason, you can do much better for yourself and for our society. But it is generally observed that liberal mafia and ethnic nationalist lack intellectual capacity to reason.

Thanks for the correction. :-) Edited.