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    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    Ravish Kumar for the longest time been known as a sensible journalist who doesn't tow the same line as the right wing nationalist media!
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    - Some of us are just raised by parents who don't hammer in manners into our person. We don't know how to behave as civilized outside our home. - Some of us have a knack of triggering, we are sadistic and like seeing others flustered. Plus there are no real penalties tied to acting rude other...
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    Will the advanced Chinese- Pakistani "JF-17 Block 3" fighter be the next guest of the Egyptian Air Force?

    what technology in JF17 B3 would Israel bhi super interested in stealing.
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    Featured Balakot and Pulwama inside job: More evidence emerges

    That was random, the only positive I see is Indians now seeing how their own media plays in the hands of the right wing govt to manufacture a narrative, to hate on Pakistan! Is it helping Pakistan that we may point fingers at a Pakistani organization in this entirely Indian origin story!
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    historic Hindu temple set ablaze in KP’s Karak

    Yea why compare Pakistan and India. Chief Justice Takes Notice Cleric Among 26 Arrested for setting temple Ablaze It's not India where SC agreed Babri Masjid demolition was a crime but didn't restore ownership back to victims, and to top it off acquitted all 32 main accused. Last I checked...
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    historic Hindu temple set ablaze in KP’s Karak

    The selective bigotry you exhibit is nauseating. You need education to come out of embedded hatred and indoctrination. You cannot complain about Muslim oppression in the immediate neighborhood if you are no different. Regardless of motive or rationale, its a hate crime and perpetrators should...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    Wouldn't that be a grave violation of NDA?
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    - Most of the major breakthroughs in Chinese aviation industry have invariably started with a copy or IP theft in cases but for the WS13, it was rumored to have been a legitimate joint venture initially with Klimov. - I am intrigued as to what your source of information is for this. Wiki...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    - Losing half the country isn't coming out unscathed - I see the strawman of saying hey US and UK and other super powers lost too, that doesn't really explain or justify our shortcomings. We could've and should've been better than others and being less complacent would've been a good start -...
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    IAF has enhanced India’s deterrent and coercive posture in Ladakh

    I don't doubt your assertion but I have to call out a naïve mind who is uttering the inherent bigotry in the name of love for Pakistan. Loving Pakistan and hating India does not justify bigotry! I choose to call out any attempt to alienate our respectable compatriots, the Pakistani Hindus!
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    IAF has enhanced India’s deterrent and coercive posture in Ladakh

    You could've responded to this without being a petty bigot, it wouldn't have cost you a dime. We have a significant Hindu population who feel less Pakistani because of shallow inconsiderate comments like yours even though they are just as much Pakistani as any of us. Your post hurts their...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    Just like you wouldn't generally trust a sensational piece about PAF from an Indian journalist or vice versa, you should take anything coming from a Greek journalist about the Turkish Air Fore with a pinch of salt. That is an oddly specific question. Do you have anything to share with us...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    What part of my post makes you think PAF is falling behind in the timeline or I am sure about it. May be you are extrapolating from the overall theme of my post which suggests that it would be understandable if Block 3 took longer to roll off the production due to changed deliverables (read...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    JF-17 is a joint project and as much as the Chinese help us in the development, there is absolutely no reason for them to not try and push in an experimental piece of technology if it suits them. If it meets the set parameters, fine, if it doesn't, China can and will likely try some back channel...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    What do you call power of an Engine .... This term could be peak military thrust, or peak thrust overall (read afterburner), a combination of both or even the time it takes to spool from any point on the power curve to peak thrust. Here are 2 engines being used on contiguous variants of F16s...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    This seems taken from the Forbes article from 4 days back and/or some Chinese blogs from a couple of weeks further back. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2020/08/13/china-claims-the-f-22-is-as-flawed-as-the-old-f-4-phantom/#3706a098104f Boastful claims are part of military propaganda...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    Military doctrine is a complex subject and the defense procurement direction countries choose may also vary like the wind as strategic relations change. Please do not take this following argument too literally as it is meant to give a reality check to unrealistic fantasies! Countries with large...
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    Rumors: Finally AH-1Z are coming

    Someone from Indian OSINT circle tweeted this. I would take it with a healthy pinch of salt though since it serves their cause if they peddle fake news in this regard.
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    Some of your questions will be answered with time as Block 3 is formally inducted but I can definitely say that it will not become a +9,-9G jet from its +8,-3G current capability.
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    That is some change if it is true as a while back they were known to keep J20 away from Pakistani officers working on the JF17 in Chengdu facilities. I would rather we get some PhD students enrolled do joint research at those high tech facilities before we think of buying turnkey J20 units. We...
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