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    Pakistan's New Fighter Jets Can Change the Balance: The Impact of Pakistan's First...

    You want to start it all over again? I think it has been discussed fairly well in this thread and you have been part of it. Its been discussed to death on that thread and I do not want to convert another thread into that. If you insist, here are a few references 1. Asia Times Online :: South...
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    Pakistan's New Fighter Jets Can Change the Balance: The Impact of Pakistan's First...

    Even your own sources have claimed that. I am afraid there isn't much for you to fall back against. By that time, LCA would have already entered its 3rd decade of "development". My point here is not LCA is a bad move or will turn out to be a bad plane, but the project itself has been...
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    China Ready to Mass Market J10 OVER JF17

    When we talk about different class, we refer to weight category. J-10,F-16 are mid weight fighters. JF-17, LCA, Gripen, J-7 are light-weight. Su-27, F-15 are heavy category fighters. Even at $30 million a piece, J-10 costs about 1.5-2 times a JF-17 (estimated) to buy and also costs more to...
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    Ultimate edition of Jf-17

    Its a fake picture. Rather than calling it fake, its a someone's experiment of what he/she likes to see in a plane. What Araz and Icecold are saying, is that there have been talk about having a twin-tail version of JF-17. Whether or not that will happen and when it will happen is not...
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    Pakistan's New Fighter Jets Can Change the Balance: The Impact of Pakistan's First...

    India certainly has more money to build an industrial base and I for one, think the industries set up or experience gained during the making of LCA would help India in the future. But that doesn't means that LCA...as a project..was not a failure in terms of cost overrun, time overrun and final...
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    PAF FirePower Demo

    Thanks goes to the original maker of this video. Glad you liked it :)
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    China Ready to Mass Market J10 OVER JF17

    Ah...I thought you meant J-10 doesn't have complete avionics ".unless china uses complete Chinese avionics radars and engine China is far off way from exporting J-10" My bad then if I misunderstood but it was a bit unclear. Honestly, the arab nations buying J-10 is more of a political...
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    Pakistan's New Fighter Jets Can Change the Balance: The Impact of Pakistan's First...

    While I believe that Moin Ansari has added up some icing in sensationalizing his recent articles, he is not alone in calling the F-22 a failure. Apparently Pierre Sprey, a respecable and knowledgeable person and the man behind the F-16, also seem to think along those lines. To quote Sprey...
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    China Ready to Mass Market J10 OVER JF17

    J-10 already has complete chinese avionics, the only thing lacking is chinese engine which is anyone's guess whether Russia will allow it or not. Arab states are unlikely to go for Chinese aircrafts anytime soon, but North African and South American countries definitely are prospective...
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    China Ready to Mass Market J10 OVER JF17

    Author states SD-10a, which is an improvement of SD-10, have an extended range of 70km. According to Jane (quoting CATIC), SD-10 had 80km (or sometimes referred to as 70+) range already. Also janes (again quoting catic) has claimed the missile to be 180kg while the author is quoting 198kg...
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    Pakistan's New Fighter Jets Can Change the Balance: The Impact of Pakistan's First...

    No, but your attitude here is. You have had enough posts to get over childish a vs b and get into more mature stuff. Look at the forums as a place to learn from others and share your experiences rather that looking to confront people and have the last say at any cost. Malay and you come...
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    Babar missile test-fired last Wednesday

    Can you shed some more light on that? or point to somewhere for more information.
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    PAF FirePower Demo

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    Babar missile test-fired last Wednesday

    I am pretty sure it can be fired from a sub-marine. I recall even during discussions following the test, this was mentioned and also in some programs during december last. As most people here follow only links verifiable on the internet, here are a few...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    ^^ Here's how to upload a picture 1. click on the "Go Advanced" button located below where you type your response 2. Scroll down to "Additional options" 3. Click the "Manage attachments" and use it to upload the pictures. Alternatively, upload the pictures to a web hosting site like flickr...
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    PAF F-16 pilot's flying hours

    China doesn't even have a Su-30MKI as the I stands for India.
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    Babar missile test-fired last Wednesday

    AFAIK, the babur cruise missile can be launched from ship/submarine so we already have a triad.
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    Pak students develop first-ever hovercraft

    Pak students develop first-ever hovercraft When it comes to the talent, we Pakistanis don’t say it rather mean it. When you talk of proficiency; we stand distinguished and dignified despite shortcomings. Even lack of resources and deprivations; cannot deter our way, when we are determined...
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    Jointly Redesigned and upgraded Chinese J-10Bs built in Pakistan as FC-20s

    FC-20 is 5 years away, yet you seem to have already finalized its maneuverability, radar and ECM. Poor CAC engineers... they should look here to analyze what their final product is going to be.:frown: Btw according to PLAAF pilots, the J-10 is more maneuverable than the Flanker and the...
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    PAF Phenom 100 "A NEW BIRD"

    Is this the new jet?
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