Babar missile test-fired last Wednesday

[Patriot]

By: Suhail Abdul Nasir | Published: May 09, 2009
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan conducted another successful test of Babar cruise missile last Wednesday.
A source in the Foreign Office disclosed the test was carried out without prior announcement, which was against the usual practice as President Asif Zardari was in Washington and was due to meet President Obama.
The source said Pakistan did not want to leave any negative impression on meeting keeping in view the missile test.
This is pertinent to mention that Pakistan always conducts the test with proper announcement and the ISPR too issues statement in this regard.
As regards ballistic missile tests, there exists an accord between Pakistan and India to exchange information prior to the tests and they both do the same, but in case of cruise missile test, there is no such agreement.
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[Arsalan]

any news on the range, is it the new 1000Km range missile reported to be under development or the same 700 Km one!

 

[Hasnain2009]

It must should be a 1000km missile!!

 

[white_pawn]

Still not clear about the spec of the test, am also searching for any imformation related to the test, but still unable to find it. So i think we have to wait till any futher info is released.

 

[jawadqamar]

Pakistan conducted the test of Babar cruise missile last Wednesday

Pakistan conducted another successful test of Babar cruise missile last Wednesday. It is being said that Babur GLCM was tested to 750km range with a payload of 500kg which means that range is increased by 50km and payload by 200kg. Babur GLCM has a CEP of 3 meter allowing it to destroy enemy targets with pinpoint accuracy. The Babur or Hatf VII missile can carry conventional as well as non-conventional nuclear warheads. A source in the Foreign Office disclosed the test was carried out without prior announcement, which was against the usual practice as President Asif Zardari was in Washington and was due to meet President Obama.The source said Pakistan did not want to leave any negative impression on meeting keeping in view the missile test. As regards ballistic missile tests, there exists an accord between Pakistan and India to exchange information prior to the tests and they both do the same, but in case of cruise missile test, there is no such agreement. Development of the Hatf-VII/ Babur cruise missile started in mid 1990, in response to the reports of Indio-Russian cruise missile program Brahmos and the requirement to have multiple options for the delivery of nuclear warheads. Pakistan had conducted its first nuclear cold tests in early 1980s and started the development of longer range ballistic missile delivery system in late 1980. In July and August 1998 two US RGM/UGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles were recovered almost intact in Southern Pakistan, and may have been used for reverse engineering or to provide vital technologies for the Hatf-VII project. It is believed that the Hatf-VII Babur design and development programme was known as Project 828. First official announcement of a test flight was made in August 2005. The first test flight was ground launched, and was stated to have a maximum range of 500 km, this range was later increase to 700km. A longer range version which will have range of 1,000 km is also under development. An air launched version called Raad ALCM has also been tested with a range of 350Km. Third version is under development for Ship/ submarine launch and Agosta 90 submarines of the Khalid class and U-214 SSK (which will be manufactured in Pakistan under license) will be the launch platforms.

 

[jawadqamar]

Why increase the warhead capacity? Are they looking for increased conventional role?

 

[Hasnain2009]

3m CEP!!

Its enough for green pine!!

 

[Patriot]

Why increase the warhead capacity? Are they looking for increased conventional role?

maybe they want to fit a nuclear warhead in it

 

[jawadqamar]

But saadahmed bahi Babur was said to be nuclear capable form the start ie nuclear capable with warhead of 300kg

Perhaps more powerful boosted fission warhead then current one?

 

[fatman17]

An air launched version called Raad ALCM has also been tested with a range of 350Km. Third version is under development for Ship/ submarine launch and Agosta 90 submarines of the Khalid class and U-214 SSK (which will be manufactured in Pakistan under license) will be the launch platforms.

along with the GLCM, this means a potential TRIAD!

 

[jawadqamar]

With india spending lot of budget for a triad I don’t think that Pakistan is ready to allow Indians to have upper hand

 

[mean_bird]

An air launched version called Raad ALCM has also been tested with a range of 350Km. Third version is under development for Ship/ submarine launch and Agosta 90 submarines of the Khalid class and U-214 SSK (which will be manufactured in Pakistan under license) will be the launch platforms.

along with the GLCM, this means a potential TRIAD!

AFAIK, the babur cruise missile can be launched from ship/submarine so we already have a triad.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Awesome!
When are these being deployed on the u boats? with nukes offcourse! sab ki %^&* jaye gee............... since the warhead & the missiles has to be in one piece .

 

[Contrarian]

AFAIK, the babur cruise missile can be launched from ship/submarine so we already have a triad.

Unless the missile can be fired from a sub, it cannot be a triad. Firing from ships only involve putting in stabilization gear.

And IIRC, Babur cannot be fired from subs because:
1. The development of this version is still in progress.
2. The diameter of Babur is larger than Agosta-B's capacity. When Pakistan gets its first U-214, then it would be a complete triad.

 

[mean_bird]

Unless the missile can be fired from a sub, it cannot be a triad. Firing from ships only involve putting in stabilization gear.

And IIRC, Babur cannot be fired from subs because:
1. The development of this version is still in progress.
2. The diameter of Babur is larger than Agosta-B's capacity. When Pakistan gets its first U-214, then it would be a complete triad.

I am pretty sure it can be fired from a sub-marine. I recall even during discussions following the test, this was mentioned and also in some programs during december last.

As most people here follow only links verifiable on the internet, here are a few.

ISLAMABAD - Pakistan is all set to test-fire “Babur” cruise missile with its improved version in a day or two after completion of its successful laboratory tests, The Nation has learnt here.

“All arrangements have been made to test-fire the cruise missile on Monday. It will have capability to hit pinpointed targets from surface, warship or submarines,” the sources maintained.

The “Babur” missile will have a range of nearly 300 miles to hit the target either from a fixed location or the submarines.

“The laboratory tests showed cent per cent accuracy in the latest technology of the cruise missile,” the sources said.

“The Babur missile is prepared mainly for the submarines but it can also be fired from the fighter jets and have capability to chase the target in case of movement,” they disclosed.

In response to a question, the sources revealed that the cruise missile would be undetectable from the radar system before or after its launching to hit the target. “This is the latest technology in the world.”

Pakistan has already fired the first version of the “Babur” but its improvement is continuing as Islamabad continues to improve its defence capabilities.

Dated: 2006
Source : http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/mar-2006/20/index5.php

http://www.defence.pk/forums/wmd-missiles/935-pak-tests-babar-cruise-missile.html

http://www.****************/forums/...first-cruise-missile-babur-4037-14/#post56308