Zhuhai 2018

GumNaam · Nov 10, 2018

JF-17 display - inside view

made me dizzy just watchin' it... :wacko:

lonelyman · Nov 10, 2018

Ali_Baba said:
So, China has gone ahead and totally undermined the JF17 programme by creating a competitor to it by lifting and shifting all of the IP developed for the JF17 programme and putting it into this FTC-2000G and selling it without having to pay Pakistan a license fee for a product in the same category as the JF17 ?

Thankyou China .........

I know u are a troller, but I have to point it out this is marketed to a even lower rung than jf17, mostly to African countries that don’t need and can’t even afford jf 17. And it is manufactured by a different entity too.

cirr · Nov 10, 2018

J-10CE

Everything is for sale

ozranger · Nov 10, 2018

lonelyman said:
I know u are a troller, but I have to point it out this is marketed to a even lower rung than jf17, mostly to African countries that don’t need and can’t even afford jf 17. And it is manufactured by a different entity too.

Price wide JF-17 is about $20M - $30M, FTC-2000G is $10M. Performance wide, FTC-2000G is mainly an attacker.

khanasifm · Nov 10, 2018

ozranger said:
Price wide JF-17 is about $20M - $30M, FTC-2000G is $10M. Performance wide, FTC-2000G is mainly an attacker.

Comparing ftc2k with 1950 technology engine turbojet and not having flyby-wire unless I am wrong there is no comparison.

It’s an option for af mostly which cannot even afford jf or has no requirements for capabilities jf brings

Jf customers Azerbaijan, Malaysia perhaps Indonesia and few ME which may buy in medium run

Anyway time will tell I think jf withblcok 1/2/3.... options will be available for any client asking for it not everyone is crazy about aesa a lot of smaller airforces still flying 2gen

Dazzler · Nov 10, 2018

GumNaam said:
JF-17 display - inside view

made me dizzy just watchin' it...

Virtual effects of high Gs

ozranger · Nov 10, 2018

khanasifm said:
Comparing ftc2k with 1950 technology engine turbojet and not having flyby-wire unless I am wrong there is no comparison.

It’s an option for af mostly which cannot even afford jf or has no requirements for capabilities jf brings

Jf customers Azerbaijan, Malaysia perhaps Indonesia and few ME which may buy in medium run

Anyway time will tell I think jf withblcok 1/2/3.... options will be available for any client asking for it not everyone is crazy about aesa a lot of smaller airforces still flying 2gen

GAIC developed FTC2000G mostly based on demands from small African countries. Those countries do not need modern fighter jets. They are actually in need of planes which can patrol their skies and attack ground targets if required. They are looking to finally get that perfectly from FTC-2000G with training as a great addition.

Muhammad Omar · Nov 10, 2018

cirr said:
J-10CE

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Everything is for sale

Even J-20

JSCh · Nov 10, 2018

JSCh said:
Said to be.. amphibious high-speed boat that travels on the surface of the water by means of a water jet propulsion device. After landing, it can lay down four sets of crawlers on both sides of the hull.

中国远洋海运杂志
 11月9日 21:27 来自华为 P8max
【全球首款水陆两栖智能无人防务快艇惊艳亮相珠海国际航展】11月6日，第十二届中国国际航空航天博览会在珠海国际航展中心开幕。武船集团模块公司有关人员参加航展，推广介绍公司展品。航展上，武船造全球首款水陆两栖智能无人防务快艇“海蜥蜴”盛装亮相，向国内外参展商和参观者展示我国面向未来战争需求研发的高端智能海洋防务装备。海洋强国路

“海蜥蜴”总长12米，型宽4.14米，型深1.65米，设计吃水0.55米，全身由铝合金材料制成，船体呈扁平化，采用独特三船体流线结构和泵喷推进技术，底部安装有可收缩式履带行进机构，机舱内安装多种武器，配备了北斗导航系统、多种类型雷达设备和计算机信息处理终端组成的先进导航、目标定位和火控系统，运用安装在大型舰艇等作战平台上的远程操控系统控制快艇航行，能够与天基导航定位系统、陆基战区指挥系统、海基作战系统平台深度融合，实现智能体系作战。其高速航行和隐身特性优异，能在海面上以最高50节速度隐身航行，按照作战要求进行隐蔽休眠、智能巡航、快速突击和抢滩登陆，实现特战队员水上投送、边防巡逻、近岸警戒、岛礁机场防护等任务，堪称海防领域利器。

参加航展的武船集团模块公司和相关民企共同表示，“海蜥蜴”最大的亮点有3个：

一是在无人快艇上实现了水陆两栖。目前全球范围内已经实现了水陆两栖装甲车辆、水上无人快艇、水陆两栖有人快艇的作战应用或前期研制开发，水陆两栖无人快艇此前还是空白领域。武船集团建造的全球首款水陆两栖智能无人防护快艇成功填补了该领域的国际空白。

二是高度智能攻击力强，具备自主隐蔽休眠、规划巡航、快速突击和抢滩登陆能力。

三是能与多种作战系统平台深度融合，实现体系作战。其优异性综合性能进一步增强了我国海洋防务装备全球竞争力，获得了珠海航展上诸多国内外客户的青睐。

武船集团模块公司工程技术人员表示，“海蜥蜴”船体底部两侧安装有4个履带行走装置，通过垂直升降的方式，将履带直接藏在船体的内部。这种设计方式能充分发挥“海蜥蜴”独特三船体的结构设计优势，不仅避免了在陆地行走时“刮底”的情况发生，同时保证了其在水上的高速度，更加实用于抢滩登陆时的突击要求。

武船集团模块公司参展人员介绍到，“海蜥蜴”是一款两栖无人艇，可以潜伏在无人岛屿上静默6至8个月，等待指挥中心的控制指令；功能上，不仅具备了基本的远程控制，同时具备自主巡航、避障、规划和自主学习能力；可携带多种任务载荷，包括短程多任务导弹、自动武器系统、光电系统和雷达系统等。“海蜥蜴”装备了两挺机枪，船体中部布置了垂直发射系统，除了消灭有生力量，还能攻击装甲目标和空中目标，甚至是海上目标的能力。

“海蜥蜴”作为无人武器平台，船体为铝合金材质，重量只有普通钢质船体的三分之一，加上“海蜥蜴”配备的柴油机驱动双喷水引擎，让其具备了出众的快速航行能力。“海蜥蜴”具备最高92.6公里/小时的水面速度，以及最高20公里/小时的陆地速度，在换装更大尺寸履带的情况下，陆地速度可以进一步提高。“海蜥蜴”的整个无人武器平台布置了诸多传感器，对“海蜥蜴”的实时运行状态进行全方位的监控，保证了在故障下的应急能力和自愈能力。

不仅如此，“海蜥蜴”的四条履带都采用独立驱动形式，“四轮驱动”的形式，使战时如果某一驱动损坏，仍能保证其行动能力。在转向设计上，四条履带独立转向的驱动形式，保证了“海蜥蜴”更小的转向半径，同时赋予了“海蜥蜴”横向移动的能力，这些设计都大大提高了“海蜥蜴”的灵活性、可靠性和存活能力。

China Ocean Shipping Magazine
November 9 21:27 from Huawei P8max
[The world's first amphibious intelligent unmanned defense express boat stunning appearance at Zhuhai International Air Show]

On November 6, the 12th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition opened at the Zhuhai International Airshow Center. Relevant personnel of the Wuchuan Group module company participated in the air show to promote the company's exhibits. At the air show, Wu Chuan made the world's first amphibious intelligent unmanned defense speedboat "Sea Lizard" dressed up to showcase the high-end intelligent marine defense equipment developed by China's domestic and foreign exhibitors and visitors for future war needs.

"Sea Lizard" has a total length of 12 meters, a width of 4.14 meters, a depth of 1.65 meters, a design draught of 0.55 meters, the whole body is made of aluminum alloy material, the hull is flat, using a unique three-hull streamline structure and pumping propulsion technology, the bottom It is equipped with a retractable crawler travel mechanism, equipped with various weapons in the cabin, equipped with advanced navigation, target positioning and fire control system composed of Beidou navigation system, various types of radar equipment and computer information processing terminals. The remote control system that controls the speedboat navigation, can be installed on large warships, land-based theater command system, sea-based combat system platform, and can be integrated with space-based navigation and positioning system to realize intelligent system operations. It has excellent high-speed navigation and stealth characteristics, and can sail in the sea at a maximum speed of 50 knots. It can stay hidden in dormancy, perform intelligent cruise, rapid assault and landing on the beach according to operational requirements, and realize the special force transport, border patrol, near-shore surveillance, island airport guard operation, tasks that are in the field of coastal defense.

The Wushu Group module company and the relevant private enterprises participating in the air show jointly said that the biggest highlights of the "Sea Lizard" are three:

First, the unmanned speedboat is amphibious. Currently worldwide there are amphibious armored vehicles, unmanned speedboat, but blank on operational or pre-development of amphibious manned speedboats and amphibious unmanned speedboat. The world's first amphibious intelligent unmanned speedboat built by the Wuchuan Group successfully filled the international gap in this field.

Second, it is highly intelligent with strong offensive capabilities, capable of covert dormancy, planned cruising, and rapid beach assault.

Third, it can be deeply integrated with various combat system platforms to achieve system operations. Its superior comprehensive performance further enhances the global competitiveness of China's marine defense equipment, and has won the favor of many domestic and foreign customers at Zhuhai Air Show.

According to the engineering and technical personnel of the module company of Wushu Group, there are four crawler walking devices installed on both sides of the bottom of the hull of the "Sea Lizard". The crawler belt is directly hidden inside the hull by vertical lifting. This design method can give full play to the structural design advantages of the unique three-hull of the "Sea Lizard", which not only avoids the situation of "scraping the bottom" when walking on land, but also ensures its high speed on the water, and is best suited for beach landing assault operation.

The exhibitors of the Wushu Group module company introduced that the "Sea Lizard" is an amphibious unmanned boat that can lurk on uninhabited island for 6 to 8 months, waiting for control command of the command center; functionally, not only capable of basics remote control, also have autonomous cruising, obstacle avoidance, planning and self-learning functionalities; can carry a variety of mission loads, including short-range multi-mission missiles, automatic weapon systems, optoelectrical systems and radar systems. The "Sea Lizard" is equipped with two machine guns. The vertical launch system is located at the middle of the hull. It is therefore able to attack armored land and also air targets, even maritime targets.

"Sea Lizard" is an unmanned weapon platform. The hull is made of aluminum alloy and weighs only one-third of the weight of an ordinary steel hull. The diesel-powered dual-water jet engine equipped with the "Sea Lizard" gives it an outstanding speed. Sailing ability. The “Sea Lizard” has a surface speed of up to 92.6 km/h and a land speed of up to 20 km/h. Land speed can be further improved with the replacement of larger track sizes. The entire unmanned weapon platform of the "Sea Lizard" is equipped with a variety of sensors to monitor the real-time operation status of the "Sea Lizard". To enable that under system fault condition, have emergency response and self correcting ability.

Not only that, the four tracks of the "Sea Lizard" are all driven in an independent drive, and the "four-wheel drive" form ensures that if a certain drive is damaged during battle, it can still guarantee its ability to move. In the steering design, the four-track independent steering drive ensures a smaller turning radius of the “Sea Lizard” and gives the “Sea Lizard” lateral movement. These designs greatly enhance the flexibility of the “Sea Lizard”. , reliability and survivability.