This is true with regards to Hizb-Ut-Tehrir - they are a bunch of mindless fools who don't know what they say and when........even though they raise valid points there methods are very silly.....
Recently in Birmingham, UK....there members went out to preach about Islam, and managed to circle a 8 year old boy and converted him to islam in front of the media, I mean, WTF is all that about........grooming a child who does not even understand much like that........
These guys are a disease and should be not just segregated but actively banned........these fools are the very ones who decided to protest against British soldiers coming back from Afghanistan during there parade march which lead to so much hatred towards Islam that a very fanatical white and mixed non-Muslim group, the English Defence League (EDL) came into being and today there numbers grow every time they launch a protest about anything to do with Islam, sad thing is, the public actually now support the EDL and they get thousands of supporters coming out.......they have really shot Muslims in the foot in the UK now........and where are they now when the EDL decides to march and smash a Mosque, like they did in Dudley, Nowhere.......vanished and dissappeared taking their fanatic views with them, when the going gets tough they quite, just like that tw@t Omar Bakri of Al-Muhajiroun, he spoke openly like a d!ck as well, only to force the British Government to bring in the New Anti-Terrorism Laws, and a week before they came into force, what does he do, make a runner to Lebanon, leaving the Muslims in the UK to face all the wrath.............